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GMCjunkie · 06-12-2004, 11:58 PM

Mudder, thanks for your reply to my last post. The reason that I changed my fuel filter in the first place is, that Im getting my truck ready for some long hauls to Tx this summer. Last time I went, there were a couple times that my truck "studdered".. and so I thought I would just change it out. Prevenitive maintenience. After I changed the filter, I started my truck, reved it a few times and let it run for several minits. Well today I started to work and it just up and died on me, no studder no jerking, nothing. just died. I got off the road and she fired right back up, Air in the line mabey? I took a chance, got back on the road, it died at least 10 times with in 5 miles, a couple times she studdered first, I had to put er in N and fire up- while moving,,, was REALLY scarry as there was no where to get off the road. Finally made it to a church parking lot, called my sister, she came and followed me back home, My truck only studdered one time on the way back, then she ran just fine. What could possibley be the problem?? The ONLY thing that I did was change that filter.I know I have it in the right way and got everything back the way it was. Im at a loss

Thanks in advance !!
junk

Jeepster376 · 06-13-2004, 12:45 AM

Is your fuel pump OK? Are you sure it's a gas problem? I think if your starvin the carb of gas, it wouldn't fire back up so quickly, as you would have an empty bowl that needs to refill somehow. I would think about it being an ignition problem.

neonlarry · 06-13-2004, 01:22 AM

^Do you have an HEI? If so sounds like when a module starts going bad.

dwaite72lnghrn · 06-13-2004, 07:09 AM

When the fuel filter was changed you might have gotten dirt in the line that plugged the jets or some thing. If the filter went before the pump it could also show a bad fuel pump for what it is. When it studders and dies pop the air cleaner off and hit the gass peddle and see if fuel squirts from the accelerator pump? That might tell you if the bowl is empty(Starving for fuel). If you pull the cleaner and you smell a lot of gas the fuel bowl might be overfilled (clogged needle on the float) which could cause the same thing. Just a guess.

Tx Firefighter · 06-13-2004, 08:02 AM

Ignition problem.

Jeepster is right, you'd probably have to crank awhile to refill the carb with fuel if it was a fuel problem. Also, when starving for fuel, they usually fall off while running rather than cut out.

cdowns · 06-13-2004, 09:20 AM

to test the volume on the fuelpump disconnect the line into the carb put it into a jar or can and crank the engine for 30-40 seconds the factory specs is 1pint of fuel, for 30-45seconds of cranking. if you're not getting that volume you've either got a bad fuelpump or a glogged fuel pickup in the tank

**BOSS** · 06-13-2004, 09:22 AM

I would check the wire that goes to the dist.Mine was acting the same way and it took me forever to find out what it was.I also had to change the modules inside the dist,sounds more like ignition then gas.Good luck.

GMCjunkie · 06-13-2004, 11:06 AM

I GOT IT!!! Was the STUPIDEST thing.

.. The new filter I bought came with a rubber gasket "thingie" that went all the way up inside the filter, inside that was a white plastic "thingie" and a small spring... The filter I took out didnt have this. I THINK that the pressure of the fuel was not enough to depress the spring "thingie" and let the proper amount of fuel into the filter. I just ran it about 10 miles, and she ran like a dream!! Was a small thing, but dammit, I CONQUERED it!!! HA HA!!!

Thanks everyone for your helpful input!!!
~"GROUP HUG"~

junkyardjohn · 06-13-2004, 11:26 AM

JODIE --- I'M NOT SURE OF WHAT YOUR PROBLEM WAS , BUT I'M SURE GLAD YOU FOUND IT, & FIGURED OUT A CURE. CONGRATULATIONS ON NOT BEING A HELPLESS PERSON WHEN IT COMES TO TROUBLE SHOOTING YOUR PROBLEM.

JOHN

fast71 · 06-13-2004, 12:21 PM

Jodie , I was reading your post and I was going to say the same thing that you found. they make to style filters for the quad one has a paper gasket on the end ant the other has the rubber with the check valve . I work for Advance Auto parts and when I sell the one with the rubber end I always open it and do away with the check valve before the customer has a problem.
Brian

dinnut · 06-13-2004, 12:53 PM

so where you going in texas?

**BOSS** · 06-13-2004, 01:11 PM

Glad to hear you got it fixed,sorry my advice was wrong......lol.Good thing you didnt listen to me.

Bowtie67 · 06-13-2004, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GMCjunkie

I GOT IT!!! Was the STUPIDEST thing.

.. The new filter I bought came with a rubber gasket "thingie" that went all the way up inside the filter, inside that was a white plastic "thingie" and a small spring... The filter I took out didnt have this. I THINK that the pressure of the fuel was not enough to depress the spring "thingie" and let the proper amount of fuel into the filter. I just ran it about 10 miles, and she ran like a dream!! Was a small thing, but dammit, I CONQUERED it!!! HA HA!!!

Thanks everyone for your helpful input!!!
~"GROUP HUG"~

And you claim you need a Truck Buddy? I think you dd exceptionally well at backtracking what you did to find the problem. You deserve a couple of atta girls...

GMCjunkie · 06-13-2004, 05:04 PM

Junkyardjohn... Thanks

.. Sometimes its hard NOT to feel helpless tho when youre stuck on the side of the road, 100 degree temps with 100% humidity, lol... just gotta keep saying, "it'll be OK!!"..

Fast71... Thanks!! and thanks for saving others, headaches

dinnut... Will be goin to Galveston about 4 times between Sept and Nov. Taking my daughter there for surgery at the Shriners Hosp.

Purple.... THANK YOU for your advice, I never turn away advice, next time if something hapens, I can refer to what you told me!!

Bowtie,,, "Atta girls" are most excellent!! Ill take all I can get!!

.. But would still be REALLY nice to have a "truck buddy" or 2 for things that are way over our heads

Tx Firefighter · 06-13-2004, 05:12 PM

I'm sorry that you're going through problems with your daughter. I hope all is well for your family.

There's no need to be stranded in the Lone Star State. If you break down in Texas, I'll come give ya'll any help you need. I can bring my diesel truck and car hauler trailer if needed.

krue · 06-13-2004, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tx Firefighter

I'm sorry that you're going through problems with your daughter. I hope all is well for your family.

There's no need to be stranded in the Lone Star State. If you break down in Texas, I'll come give ya'll any help you need. I can bring my diesel truck and car hauler trailer if needed.

That applies to the rest of us along the way, just let us know when you are passing thru!

GMCjunkie · 06-14-2004, 05:20 AM

TxFF and Krue.. Thank you both SO much. Every time I make one of these long trips, I always post it here on the board, and Ive never left home with less than a dozen numbers between Ga and Tx, to call incase of an emergency. Thankfully Ive never had to call for a break down, only a hurricaine (Thanks PapaNoel

) Having thoes numbers with me is one of the greatest piece of mind I can have... THANK YOU!!
junk

jlive68 · 06-14-2004, 05:47 AM

I don't think you would come through Pensacola but if you need anything let me know. Email me and I'll give you my number.

GMCjunkie · 06-14-2004, 07:10 AM

jlive68... actually I go right thru Pensicola!!

... Thank you I appreciate it!!!

**Yukon Jack** · 06-14-2004, 11:43 AM

I'm proud of you, got it figured out and fixed - that problem would have got the better of alot of us.

Mudder · 06-14-2004, 12:00 PM

Good job Jodie...........

dubie · 06-14-2004, 12:25 PM

I have such admiration for all the ladies on this board that like to get down and dirty.......oh ...........hehe....and the ones that like to work on their own trucks to

Good Job Jodie!!! I'm a great feeling when you can solve the small problems on your own. Gives you a great sense of accomplishment.
I am happy to have a wife that takes such a thriving interest in trucks. I couldn't have gotten this far without her help....................or her money

Once again GOOD JOB!!! More attagirls for you

06-12-2004, 11:58 PM	#1
GMCjunkie Dude...I'm a CHICK Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Lakeland Georgia Posts: 6,192	New Problem... "fuel filter"?? Mudder, thanks for your reply to my last post. The reason that I changed my fuel filter in the first place is, that Im getting my truck ready for some long hauls to Tx this summer. Last time I went, there were a couple times that my truck "studdered".. and so I thought I would just change it out. Prevenitive maintenience. After I changed the filter, I started my truck, reved it a few times and let it run for several minits. Well today I started to work and it just up and died on me, no studder no jerking, nothing. just died. I got off the road and she fired right back up, Air in the line mabey? I took a chance, got back on the road, it died at least 10 times with in 5 miles, a couple times she studdered first, I had to put er in N and fire up- while moving,,, was REALLY scarry as there was no where to get off the road. Finally made it to a church parking lot, called my sister, she came and followed me back home, My truck only studdered one time on the way back, then she ran just fine. What could possibley be the problem?? The ONLY thing that I did was change that filter.I know I have it in the right way and got everything back the way it was. Im at a loss Thanks in advance !! junk __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~* "The unexamined life is not worth living" -Socrates ~~~~~~~~~~~~~* '71 GMC Suburban 4x4

06-13-2004, 12:45 AM	#2
Jeepster376 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 269	Is your fuel pump OK? Are you sure it's a gas problem? I think if your starvin the carb of gas, it wouldn't fire back up so quickly, as you would have an empty bowl that needs to refill somehow. I would think about it being an ignition problem. __________________ 72 Cheyenne Super 4x4 SWB

06-13-2004, 01:22 AM	#3
neonlarry Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Vacaville, CA Posts: 2,746	^Do you have an HEI? If so sounds like when a module starts going bad. __________________ 70 C/10 Light Red 350/TH350, HEI, Duals w/40 series Flows, 91 seat, LED taillights 99 Pontiac S/C GTP, SLP Ram Air hood, GMPP Konis & springs 95 Neon ACR, MP PCM, AFX UDP, 3.0 CAI

06-13-2004, 07:09 AM	#4
dwaite72lnghrn Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: central pa Posts: 1,525	When the fuel filter was changed you might have gotten dirt in the line that plugged the jets or some thing. If the filter went before the pump it could also show a bad fuel pump for what it is. When it studders and dies pop the air cleaner off and hit the gass peddle and see if fuel squirts from the accelerator pump? That might tell you if the bowl is empty(Starving for fuel). If you pull the cleaner and you smell a lot of gas the fuel bowl might be overfilled (clogged needle on the float) which could cause the same thing. Just a guess. __________________ 72 longhorn c30 502BB/th400/fact air/4.11rear/ custom camper 72 bug(the better half's) under reconstruction 2009 HHR aqua blue 71 GMC k20 350/sm465 2009 Chevy hd3500 6.6 Victory Red crew cab dually Dave & Jeanne

06-13-2004, 08:02 AM	#5
Tx Firefighter Watch out for your cornhole ! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Azle, Texas Posts: 14,162	Ignition problem. Jeepster is right, you'd probably have to crank awhile to refill the carb with fuel if it was a fuel problem. Also, when starving for fuel, they usually fall off while running rather than cut out. __________________ I'm on the Instagram- @Gearhead_Kevin

06-13-2004, 09:20 AM	#6
cdowns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: daytonabeach Posts: 22,956	to test the volume on the fuelpump disconnect the line into the carb put it into a jar or can and crank the engine for 30-40 seconds the factory specs is 1pint of fuel, for 30-45seconds of cranking. if you're not getting that volume you've either got a bad fuelpump or a glogged fuel pickup in the tank __________________ 71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY

06-13-2004, 09:22 AM	#7
BOSS Just here to help Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Norwood,Mo Posts: 3,893	I would check the wire that goes to the dist.Mine was acting the same way and it took me forever to find out what it was.I also had to change the modules inside the dist,sounds more like ignition then gas.Good luck. __________________ Support our site Norwood Survivor

06-13-2004, 11:06 AM	#8
GMCjunkie Dude...I'm a CHICK Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Lakeland Georgia Posts: 6,192	I GOT IT!!! Was the STUPIDEST thing... The new filter I bought came with a rubber gasket "thingie" that went all the way up inside the filter, inside that was a white plastic "thingie" and a small spring... The filter I took out didnt have this. I THINK that the pressure of the fuel was not enough to depress the spring "thingie" and let the proper amount of fuel into the filter. I just ran it about 10 miles, and she ran like a dream!! Was a small thing, but dammit, I CONQUERED it!!! HA HA!!! Thanks everyone for your helpful input!!! ~"GROUP HUG"~ __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~* "The unexamined life is not worth living" -Socrates ~~~~~~~~~~~~~* '71 GMC Suburban 4x4

06-13-2004, 11:26 AM	#9
junkyardjohn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SOMERSET KY. Posts: 6,427	JODIE --- I'M NOT SURE OF WHAT YOUR PROBLEM WAS , BUT I'M SURE GLAD YOU FOUND IT, & FIGURED OUT A CURE. CONGRATULATIONS ON NOT BEING A HELPLESS PERSON WHEN IT COMES TO TROUBLE SHOOTING YOUR PROBLEM. JOHN __________________ junkyardjohn 69 1 TON TOW TRUCK // 84 4WD CUCV BLAZER// 85 1 TON 4WD STAKE TRUCK// 86 M1031 5/4 TON 4WD CUCV// ALOT OF OLD TRUCKS FOR ONE OLD MAN TO DRIVE. THERES ROOM FOR ALL OF GODS CREATURES RIGHT NEXT TO MY MASHED POTATOES// LIFE MEMBER OF P.E.T.A (PEOPLE EATING TASTY ANIMALS) DON'T RENT U-HAUL ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH IT WILL AMAZE PART OF THE PEOPLE & ASTONISH THE REST

06-13-2004, 12:21 PM	#10
fast71 Drive it like U stole it Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: tunnel hill ,GA /Chatt,TN Posts: 956	Jodie , I was reading your post and I was going to say the same thing that you found. they make to style filters for the quad one has a paper gasket on the end ant the other has the rubber with the check valve . I work for Advance Auto parts and when I sell the one with the rubber end I always open it and do away with the check valve before the customer has a problem. Brian __________________ 71 custom 10 swb 72 nova ss 72 nova custom 87 s10 96 burb 94 camry 53 5 window 3100

06-13-2004, 12:53 PM	#11
dinnut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: missouri city, tx Posts: 4,486	so where you going in texas? __________________ 70 longbed 496/th400/Ford 9"

06-13-2004, 01:11 PM	#12
BOSS Just here to help Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Norwood,Mo Posts: 3,893	Glad to hear you got it fixed,sorry my advice was wrong......lol.Good thing you didnt listen to me. __________________ Support our site Norwood Survivor

06-13-2004, 05:04 PM	#14
GMCjunkie Dude...I'm a CHICK Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Lakeland Georgia Posts: 6,192	Junkyardjohn... Thanks.. Sometimes its hard NOT to feel helpless tho when youre stuck on the side of the road, 100 degree temps with 100% humidity, lol... just gotta keep saying, "it'll be OK!!".. Fast71... Thanks!! and thanks for saving others, headaches dinnut... Will be goin to Galveston about 4 times between Sept and Nov. Taking my daughter there for surgery at the Shriners Hosp. Purple.... THANK YOU for your advice, I never turn away advice, next time if something hapens, I can refer to what you told me!! Bowtie,,, "Atta girls" are most excellent!! Ill take all I can get!! .. But would still be REALLY nice to have a "truck buddy" or 2 for things that are way over our heads __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~* "The unexamined life is not worth living" -Socrates ~~~~~~~~~~~~~* '71 GMC Suburban 4x4

06-13-2004, 05:12 PM	#15
Tx Firefighter Watch out for your cornhole ! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Azle, Texas Posts: 14,162	I'm sorry that you're going through problems with your daughter. I hope all is well for your family. There's no need to be stranded in the Lone Star State. If you break down in Texas, I'll come give ya'll any help you need. I can bring my diesel truck and car hauler trailer if needed. __________________ I'm on the Instagram- @Gearhead_Kevin

06-14-2004, 05:20 AM	#17
GMCjunkie Dude...I'm a CHICK Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Lakeland Georgia Posts: 6,192	TxFF and Krue.. Thank you both SO much. Every time I make one of these long trips, I always post it here on the board, and Ive never left home with less than a dozen numbers between Ga and Tx, to call incase of an emergency. Thankfully Ive never had to call for a break down, only a hurricaine (Thanks PapaNoel ) Having thoes numbers with me is one of the greatest piece of mind I can have... THANK YOU!! junk __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~* "The unexamined life is not worth living" -Socrates ~~~~~~~~~~~~~* '71 GMC Suburban 4x4



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06-14-2004, 05:47 AM	#18
jlive68 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Greenville, Tx. Posts: 286	help I don't think you would come through Pensacola but if you need anything let me know. Email me and I'll give you my number. __________________ 1968 chevy U.S. Navy

06-14-2004, 07:10 AM	#19
GMCjunkie Dude...I'm a CHICK Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Lakeland Georgia Posts: 6,192	jlive68... actually I go right thru Pensicola!! ... Thank you I appreciate it!!! __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~* "The unexamined life is not worth living" -Socrates ~~~~~~~~~~~~~* '71 GMC Suburban 4x4

06-14-2004, 11:43 AM	#20
Yukon Jack Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Rose Hill, KS, USA Posts: 12,684	I'm proud of you, got it figured out and fixed - that problem would have got the better of alot of us. __________________ 1970 Blazer with a 400 sbc and 4" lift 1980 Pontiac Trans Am, 455 Oldsmobile 2012 Kawasaki Concours 14

06-14-2004, 12:00 PM	#21
Mudder Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: East Central, MO Posts: 11,336	Good job Jodie...........

06-14-2004, 12:25 PM	#22
dubie Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Flin Flon, Manitoba, Canada Posts: 8,855	I have such admiration for all the ladies on this board that like to get down and dirty.......oh ...........hehe....and the ones that like to work on their own trucks to Good Job Jodie!!! I'm a great feeling when you can solve the small problems on your own. Gives you a great sense of accomplishment. I am happy to have a wife that takes such a thriving interest in trucks. I couldn't have gotten this far without her help....................or her money Once again GOOD JOB!!! More attagirls for you __________________ My name's Tim and I'm a truckaholic My 56 Chevy shop truck build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=562795

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