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teeitup · 08-28-2004, 02:56 PM

Wow I was buying this truck from this guy (supposed to be a friend even) anyway I looked at his truck, we negotiated a price and he was keeeping his radio. Anyway I met him today to get it and he took off the new tires that was on it, he tried to tell me they weren't in on the deal but he never said that before. I told him I didn't want it if the tires wasn't on there and walked away. Then he told me he would bring me the tires this week if I would still buy it, I told him OK and bought it, but I LOST alot of respect for him after what he did. I couldn't live with myself if I'd do that to someone. Another buddy was with me when we negotiated and he couldn't believe he tried what he did, me either. Sorry just venting!

teeitup · 08-28-2004, 03:00 PM

Woops sorry I thought I was on the message board.

*Robo_bot* · 08-28-2004, 03:32 PM

sorry to hear that randy thats harsh ya some people are brutal when it comes to that they play mind games and then it screws urself over in the longrun half the time its total

but hey atleast u got the truck lol

**smitty62** · 08-28-2004, 05:04 PM

If this was a friend, keep an eye out for your enemies!

Blue4x4 · 08-28-2004, 06:51 PM

Do you think he will give up the tires? Some deals like that just don't work out and trying to get the rest of the stuff is like pulling teeth. Good Luck.

BLAZERMAN · 08-28-2004, 07:01 PM

Was his name Gary???

Robert1970C20rstbukt · 08-28-2004, 07:03 PM

Lemme guess, he put some old dryrotted tires on it right????????

weasel29gm · 08-28-2004, 11:24 PM

Sometimes a friend is the worst to deal with!!

**fine69** · 08-29-2004, 12:03 AM

Fair chance your not gonna get those tires now. If you paid him already.
I had that happen awhile back. Not a buddy though. Guy i offered to sell parts to. (for a Honda). Calls me later tells me that he wrecked it and wants to sell. I said, How bad did yo wreck it? Tells me it needs a new fender and hood. Ok, sounds good. I had to pick him up at his girlfriends to go see it.
Man, he took the wheels off. I mean, NO wheels. Stereo,battery. And the car was DESTROYED. I mean a total loss. He hit a parked dumpster. I said, Where are the wheels? Oh i sold them. I said, you didnt tell me that on the phone when i asked. Then when i asked about the stereo he said, oh yea i kept that.
Price before, $150. Price after i ripped his butt about being full of crap. $30 And he took it. And i made him give up the factory stereo too.

*dtlilly* · 08-29-2004, 01:32 AM

I lost out on a deal about a year ago.. I drove out to Henderson TN to look at a 72 Cheyenne short 4X4. Had a decent body and brand new 350 crate. I told him I'll take it, and when I go to get it, the tach dash, tilt wheel, American racing aluminum rims and new tires were missing. I asked where everything was, and I'm told that wasn't in the agreed upon price. I decided to walk away, even after the guy pleaded with me to take the truck at a lower price. Some people just don't have any ethics

teeitup · 08-29-2004, 08:41 AM

He plays golf at our golf course right now for free, he does some painting for us and gets to golf for free, if the tires don't show up in a week, that will change I'll make time to do the painting and he'll have to pay to play. I'll also make sure everyone that knows him realizes what kind of guy he is. The more I think about it the more pissed I get.

Hunter · 08-29-2004, 10:06 AM

... is a failure to communicate. I'm guilty of it too. I have been bitten countless times making assumptions. What I have learned is that its easier to say what you're thinking, right up front, than to try to take up the slack and "fix" a deal after the "misunderstanding" takes place. I ASK all the questions now. "SO, at this agreed price, this truck comes with every single thing on it as it sits NOW. Is that our agreement?" Then give HALF the coin with a firm handshake, the other half when you pick it up and its exactly as you had agreed.
The other thing to check is the old "Box C on the title trick". IN Arizona, actual mileage autos have the A box checked. If the odo has been screwed with, or the cars been wrecked, etc. the C box is checked and the value is significanlty less. I learned this one the hard way and when I confronted the seller (after I went to the DMV and learned of my screwup) the seller said: (you guessed it) Why, I had no IDEA that the title had the C box checked! My aching hinder. ASK to SEE the title.
So, ASK the questions UP FRONT. Its a lot less hassle than fighting about it later.

FWIW, signed, "Experienced". H.

**fine69** · 08-29-2004, 11:53 AM

He does some painting at your golf course? And then golfs for free? I am not a golfer, but know that he is probably getting the better end of the deal. But then he trys to "bone" you on a deal? Negatory. I would not wait for the tires. I would call him up a tell him to bring them right over. NO reason you should have to wait. Then i would terminate the paint for play deal. Screw him.

Warbones · 08-29-2004, 12:22 PM

I will keep this in mind for the future, but I didn't realize you had to be specific about what was included in the asking price of a vehicle. Bet I don't assume that again.

chipflyer · 08-29-2004, 06:10 PM

The key word here is "Integrity" and this other guy doesn't have it. Randy, I am sorry to hear that you are having this trouble and I hope that it works out favorably for you.

Jeff

davidh · 08-29-2004, 07:03 PM

This is why I almost take everything off I want to keep before I sell something so there isn't a mix up. Or I exclusively say or have written in the deal. There's been a time or two I forgot to mention something wasnt' going with it and I just let the person have it rather than have people pissed at me. On the same scenario some guys I just have that feeling if I'm buying something I get it out of there right then and there so they don't strip it or act stupid when I ask where something is at that's missing.

teeitup · 08-29-2004, 07:07 PM

Hunter, I understand what your saying about failure to communicate BUT I assure you this was not that. All that was said was about the radio. He just tried to shaft me! This is not my first truck purchase I've probably bought close to 200 trucks in my lifetime.
fine69, its coming up in front of the boss tomorrow.

War, most guys are great, this is the first one I've ever ran into
Jeff, Thanks your exactly right!!! Also tell your neighbor I have a air cleaner he was asking about.
Thanks Randy

72superBB · 08-29-2004, 07:19 PM

Hey Randy,

Can I take his place for free golf this Friday? I am coming to Topeka this weekend for my sisters wedding? lol

Gotta love those types of transactions! not!

See ya

Ron

teeitup · 08-30-2004, 10:05 PM

Hey Ron, come on up, I should be working till 2:00.
Update: He's losing his free golf privlages, but he don't know it yet, I had a talk with the owner of teh golf course about him, he understands where I'm coming from. Also talked to the guy I bought the truck from about the tires, he said he's working on it, I heard he sold them already, this may be a big mess before were done.

OhioChevy · 08-31-2004, 10:00 PM

Randy....Tell him you are going to give him a free golf lesson....with a one-iron. LOL . Hope you get the tires.

Don

08-28-2004, 02:56 PM	#1
teeitup Just like to part out trucks!! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Meriden, Ks-North of Topeka 10 miles Posts: 27,396	Some guys!!!!! Venting!!!! Wow I was buying this truck from this guy (supposed to be a friend even) anyway I looked at his truck, we negotiated a price and he was keeeping his radio. Anyway I met him today to get it and he took off the new tires that was on it, he tried to tell me they weren't in on the deal but he never said that before. I told him I didn't want it if the tires wasn't on there and walked away. Then he told me he would bring me the tires this week if I would still buy it, I told him OK and bought it, but I LOST alot of respect for him after what he did. I couldn't live with myself if I'd do that to someone. Another buddy was with me when we negotiated and he couldn't believe he tried what he did, me either. Sorry just venting! __________________ 67 Chev swb stepside 4x4 283 4 speed SOLD 72 blazer 4x4 4 speed Cheyenne 72 GMC swb 4x4 fleet 4 speed, original paint 1958 Cameo (one of 1405 built, it was my dads) 2020 chevy Apex 4x4 crew cab 1969 Z28 with the 302 1980 chevy swb 4x4 1964 chevell Malibu SS 1976 K20, sold new originally out of my dads chevy dealership Members that I've met, over 200 probably closer to 300 in the 12 years I've been on this site, everyone I met "It was a pleasure"

08-28-2004, 03:00 PM	#2
teeitup Just like to part out trucks!! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Meriden, Ks-North of Topeka 10 miles Posts: 27,396	Woops sorry I thought I was on the message board. __________________ 67 Chev swb stepside 4x4 283 4 speed SOLD 72 blazer 4x4 4 speed Cheyenne 72 GMC swb 4x4 fleet 4 speed, original paint 1958 Cameo (one of 1405 built, it was my dads) 2020 chevy Apex 4x4 crew cab 1969 Z28 with the 302 1980 chevy swb 4x4 1964 chevell Malibu SS 1976 K20, sold new originally out of my dads chevy dealership Members that I've met, over 200 probably closer to 300 in the 12 years I've been on this site, everyone I met "It was a pleasure"

08-28-2004, 05:04 PM	#4
smitty62 Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,234	If this was a friend, keep an eye out for your enemies! __________________ Stepsides look like real trucks! Smitty

08-28-2004, 07:03 PM	#7
Robert1970C20rstbukt Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Beeville, Texas Posts: 1,943	Lemme guess, he put some old dryrotted tires on it right???????? __________________ RJD 1984 Chevrolet C30 welding truck 454/SM465 1977 GMC C15 pickup 350/TH350 1970 Chevrolet C20 pickup 350/TH400 1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban 454/TH350 1969 GMC 8500 478M V6/5 spd winch truck

08-28-2004, 11:24 PM	#8
weasel29gm SLOW BUT SURE,BUT CLOSER Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: eleanor wv usa Posts: 3,092	Sometimes a friend is the worst to deal with!! __________________ 69 C-10, OWNED 35YRS... 350 over 30, 350 Turbo, 3:73 Posi P/S, P/B Black with red and black int. ''LOVE THESE OLD ''TRUCKS.......

08-28-2004, 03:32 PM	#3
Robo_bot Account Suspended Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kelowna BC Canada Posts: 481	sorry to hear that randy thats harsh ya some people are brutal when it comes to that they play mind games and then it screws urself over in the longrun half the time its total but hey atleast u got the truck lol

08-28-2004, 06:51 PM	#5
Blue4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sparks, NV Posts: 790	Do you think he will give up the tires? Some deals like that just don't work out and trying to get the rest of the stuff is like pulling teeth. Good Luck.

08-28-2004, 07:01 PM	#6
BLAZERMAN Currently Blazerless Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: St. Joseph Mo. Posts: 4,826	Was his name Gary???

08-29-2004, 12:03 AM	#9
fine69 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Urbana,Ohio,USA Posts: 4,618	Fair chance your not gonna get those tires now. If you paid him already. I had that happen awhile back. Not a buddy though. Guy i offered to sell parts to. (for a Honda). Calls me later tells me that he wrecked it and wants to sell. I said, How bad did yo wreck it? Tells me it needs a new fender and hood. Ok, sounds good. I had to pick him up at his girlfriends to go see it. Man, he took the wheels off. I mean, NO wheels. Stereo,battery. And the car was DESTROYED. I mean a total loss. He hit a parked dumpster. I said, Where are the wheels? Oh i sold them. I said, you didnt tell me that on the phone when i asked. Then when i asked about the stereo he said, oh yea i kept that. Price before, $150. Price after i ripped his butt about being full of crap. $30 And he took it. And i made him give up the factory stereo too. __________________ 2008 Chevy HHR 1/2 panel. 1949 Chevy Panel truck(just sittin, waiting) Board member #6

08-29-2004, 01:32 AM	#10
dtlilly Account Suspended Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Shadow of Lambeau Field Posts: 5,597	I lost out on a deal about a year ago.. I drove out to Henderson TN to look at a 72 Cheyenne short 4X4. Had a decent body and brand new 350 crate. I told him I'll take it, and when I go to get it, the tach dash, tilt wheel, American racing aluminum rims and new tires were missing. I asked where everything was, and I'm told that wasn't in the agreed upon price. I decided to walk away, even after the guy pleaded with me to take the truck at a lower price. Some people just don't have any ethics

08-29-2004, 08:41 AM	#11
teeitup Just like to part out trucks!! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Meriden, Ks-North of Topeka 10 miles Posts: 27,396	He plays golf at our golf course right now for free, he does some painting for us and gets to golf for free, if the tires don't show up in a week, that will change I'll make time to do the painting and he'll have to pay to play. I'll also make sure everyone that knows him realizes what kind of guy he is. The more I think about it the more pissed I get. __________________ 67 Chev swb stepside 4x4 283 4 speed SOLD 72 blazer 4x4 4 speed Cheyenne 72 GMC swb 4x4 fleet 4 speed, original paint 1958 Cameo (one of 1405 built, it was my dads) 2020 chevy Apex 4x4 crew cab 1969 Z28 with the 302 1980 chevy swb 4x4 1964 chevell Malibu SS 1976 K20, sold new originally out of my dads chevy dealership Members that I've met, over 200 probably closer to 300 in the 12 years I've been on this site, everyone I met "It was a pleasure"

08-29-2004, 10:06 AM	#12
Hunter Lovin' Arizona Since 1961 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Camp Verde, Arizona Posts: 173	What We Have Hea..... ... is a failure to communicate. I'm guilty of it too. I have been bitten countless times making assumptions. What I have learned is that its easier to say what you're thinking, right up front, than to try to take up the slack and "fix" a deal after the "misunderstanding" takes place. I ASK all the questions now. "SO, at this agreed price, this truck comes with every single thing on it as it sits NOW. Is that our agreement?" Then give HALF the coin with a firm handshake, the other half when you pick it up and its exactly as you had agreed. The other thing to check is the old "Box C on the title trick". IN Arizona, actual mileage autos have the A box checked. If the odo has been screwed with, or the cars been wrecked, etc. the C box is checked and the value is significanlty less. I learned this one the hard way and when I confronted the seller (after I went to the DMV and learned of my screwup) the seller said: (you guessed it) Why, I had no IDEA that the title had the C box checked! My aching hinder. ASK to SEE the title. So, ASK the questions UP FRONT. Its a lot less hassle than fighting about it later. FWIW, signed, "Experienced". H. __________________ "Religion is like a toothbrush: Everybody should have one, but I don't want yours" - Will Rogers

08-29-2004, 11:53 AM	#13
fine69 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Urbana,Ohio,USA Posts: 4,618	He does some painting at your golf course? And then golfs for free? I am not a golfer, but know that he is probably getting the better end of the deal. But then he trys to "bone" you on a deal? Negatory. I would not wait for the tires. I would call him up a tell him to bring them right over. NO reason you should have to wait. Then i would terminate the paint for play deal. Screw him. __________________ 2008 Chevy HHR 1/2 panel. 1949 Chevy Panel truck(just sittin, waiting) Board member #6

08-29-2004, 12:22 PM	#14
Warbones Navel Inspector Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Wichita, Ks Posts: 1,373	I will keep this in mind for the future, but I didn't realize you had to be specific about what was included in the asking price of a vehicle. Bet I don't assume that again. __________________ 1948 Chevy Aerosedan GONE! I think. 1984 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham Coupe WANTED 1967 IMPALA 1967 CST C10 Long Bed with a 283

08-29-2004, 06:10 PM	#15
chipflyer Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Topeka, Ks Posts: 2,293	The key word here is "Integrity" and this other guy doesn't have it. Randy, I am sorry to hear that you are having this trouble and I hope that it works out favorably for you. Jeff __________________ I'm not a pessimist, I'm just optimistic that bad things are going to happen. 1971 Cheyenne Super K10 - tilt, cruise, air, am/fm, tow hooks, factory buckets! 1986 Jeep J10 pickup, - 5.3L Vortec with 4L60e and NP241.



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08-29-2004, 07:03 PM	#16
davidh Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ponca city now kingfisher Oklahoma Posts: 1,221	deals made This is why I almost take everything off I want to keep before I sell something so there isn't a mix up. Or I exclusively say or have written in the deal. There's been a time or two I forgot to mention something wasnt' going with it and I just let the person have it rather than have people pissed at me. On the same scenario some guys I just have that feeling if I'm buying something I get it out of there right then and there so they don't strip it or act stupid when I ask where something is at that's missing.

08-29-2004, 07:07 PM	#17
teeitup Just like to part out trucks!! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Meriden, Ks-North of Topeka 10 miles Posts: 27,396	Hunter, I understand what your saying about failure to communicate BUT I assure you this was not that. All that was said was about the radio. He just tried to shaft me! This is not my first truck purchase I've probably bought close to 200 trucks in my lifetime. fine69, its coming up in front of the boss tomorrow. War, most guys are great, this is the first one I've ever ran into Jeff, Thanks your exactly right!!! Also tell your neighbor I have a air cleaner he was asking about. Thanks Randy __________________ 67 Chev swb stepside 4x4 283 4 speed SOLD 72 blazer 4x4 4 speed Cheyenne 72 GMC swb 4x4 fleet 4 speed, original paint 1958 Cameo (one of 1405 built, it was my dads) 2020 chevy Apex 4x4 crew cab 1969 Z28 with the 302 1980 chevy swb 4x4 1964 chevell Malibu SS 1976 K20, sold new originally out of my dads chevy dealership Members that I've met, over 200 probably closer to 300 in the 12 years I've been on this site, everyone I met "It was a pleasure"

08-29-2004, 07:19 PM	#18
72superBB Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Mandan, ND Posts: 422	Hey Randy, Can I take his place for free golf this Friday? I am coming to Topeka this weekend for my sisters wedding? lol Gotta love those types of transactions! not! See ya Ron __________________ Life is full of choices and a Chevy is the best choice. 1990 Chevy SWB

08-30-2004, 10:05 PM	#19
teeitup Just like to part out trucks!! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Meriden, Ks-North of Topeka 10 miles Posts: 27,396	Hey Ron, come on up, I should be working till 2:00. Update: He's losing his free golf privlages, but he don't know it yet, I had a talk with the owner of teh golf course about him, he understands where I'm coming from. Also talked to the guy I bought the truck from about the tires, he said he's working on it, I heard he sold them already, this may be a big mess before were done. __________________ 67 Chev swb stepside 4x4 283 4 speed SOLD 72 blazer 4x4 4 speed Cheyenne 72 GMC swb 4x4 fleet 4 speed, original paint 1958 Cameo (one of 1405 built, it was my dads) 2020 chevy Apex 4x4 crew cab 1969 Z28 with the 302 1980 chevy swb 4x4 1964 chevell Malibu SS 1976 K20, sold new originally out of my dads chevy dealership Members that I've met, over 200 probably closer to 300 in the 12 years I've been on this site, everyone I met "It was a pleasure"

08-31-2004, 10:00 PM	#20
OhioChevy Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Southern Ohio Posts: 489	Give him a golf lesson. Randy....Tell him you are going to give him a free golf lesson....with a one-iron. LOL . Hope you get the tires. Don

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