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Old 10-21-2004, 08:08 PM   #1
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What Electric Fan Would You Choose?

Im either going to go with the "OLD AIR PRODUCTS" dual fan setup or the "CLASSICHEARTBEAT" setup. Wich one do you think is best?


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http://www.classictrucksweb.com/tech/0302CL_Fantastic/


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Old 10-21-2004, 08:14 PM   #2
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Do I get to vote...lol WES
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Old 10-21-2004, 08:25 PM   #3
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How did I know you would be the first one to reply ? ..lol.. but really though id love to hear your opinion......by the way that new chrome grill is awsome !

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Old 10-21-2004, 08:53 PM   #4
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I put the dual fan set up from Wes on my 69 and it is a real quality unit and very easy installation. In fact every part that I replaced on my truck which is most of the truck I got from Wes and I have never been disapointed.
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Old 10-21-2004, 09:09 PM   #5
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I would go for 2 of the 14" units from Perma Cool. They pull 2950 CFM EACH! http://www.alamomotorsports.com/pmc/Cat_page16.html
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Old 10-21-2004, 09:31 PM   #6
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Thanks, for the compliment on the grill..... They go real well with my pollished stainless steel duel electric fan assemblies...lol If you realy want my opinion on fans, I would seriously would say mine. I have been using them for over 7 years now and have not had an issue. I pull a 5000 pound boat with my Big Block Blazer with it also. I just installed another one into the Garden Truck also. Looks sweeeeeeet!!! No matter what you decide to do, use a shroud!! If you mount them through your radiator like the instructions on most fans, it will eat a hole in your radiator core!! Been there, done that... When I designed our assemblies, I wanted them to look as good as they are functional. Our customers have them in at least 4 show trucks and they have received many compliments. So my vote is Wes's system.... WES www.ClassicHeartbeat.com
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Old 10-21-2004, 10:32 PM   #7
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If its a show truck go with Wes' if its not try this inexpensive setup from a 91 maxima!!!!!! I only paid 50.00 at the salvage yard. To me it looks as good as the oldair unit.
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Old 10-22-2004, 01:18 PM   #8
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If its a show truck go with Wes' if its not try this inexpensive setup from a 91 maxima!!!!!! I only paid 50.00 at the salvage yard. To me it looks as good as the oldair unit.

I agree, that is a great fan set up you have there djracer!! I have always been loyal to GM so I always find away to make the dual fans set up found on the LT1 or LS1 Camarro's or Firebirds. You can make a simple bracket set up for this type and bolt the unit directly to the core support. You can find these types of fans all over in decent condition for around $50 to $100 bucks.
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Old 10-22-2004, 01:50 PM   #9
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I run a pair of 14" flex a lites, on a hand built shroud(yes they do fit tight indeed!) the controls are a painless wiring setup (on 185/off 170). the setup is very clean looking, & works well. The fans are said to pull 1650cfm ea, & are cooling a 383 sb running right @ 1 hp per cube. my budget allowed around $150 in parts, & the rest labor......if i had to purchase all the parts new, I would have opted for the dual setup Wes has As finished, i had 1 new fan($90), Painless controls ($60), one good used fan from my oldests son's totalled Ranger(free),1 steel shelf(free) & labor.....man if I could pay myself for the time, that old longhorn would have funded my retirement!!!! my vote, go with wes's setup.....crazyL
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Old 10-22-2004, 02:15 PM   #10
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Well I just ordered the new all steel chrome grill setup for my 1972 4x4 through WES, so I might as well get his polished stainless steel fan set up to match... (:
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We can do that.... lol... WES www.ClassicHeartbeat.com
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Old 10-22-2004, 07:33 PM   #12
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Uhhhhh Richard, does your wife know about you ordering the new grill?? Hey, you have to bring it over when you get it, I'm thinking of getting one for the stepside.
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Old 10-22-2004, 07:42 PM   #13
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Sweeeet... This aught to help the voters... Hehehe!! WES www.ClassicHeartbeat.com
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Old 10-22-2004, 10:06 PM   #14
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I bought a dual flexalite kit with a painless wiring kit. I love it. Dual 12's I think. Doesn't cover the entire radiator, but it keeps my 415 stroker cool. Never gets hot, fans aren't too loud. I think the price was around 250 for the fans...
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Old 10-22-2004, 10:11 PM   #15
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Randy, umm...the wife dont know yet...I feel like a addict sneaking behind her back buying truck parts (: , ill bring it by as soon as it gets here. Im excited, it sure looks nice.

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Old 10-22-2004, 11:02 PM   #16
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djracer- how did you do your wireing? i just snagged a early to mid 90's altima fans from a junk-yard for $13...

If I had the money though I would be all over wes's fan's... but on a college students budget i gotta go with what i can get...... maybe one day i will be able to afford some nice fans like wes's

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djracer- how did you do your wireing? i just snagged a early to mid 90's altima fans from a junk-yard for $13...

If I had the money though I would be all over wes's fan's... but on a college students budget i gotta go with what i can get...... maybe one day i will be able to afford some nice fans like wes's

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do a search on ck5.com, there is a ton of info on installing a "junkyard' fan. The infamous Ford Taurus fan from apx 89-94(two speed/3 wire) are HIGHLY rated. I just picked one up for 16 bucks or so. They are found in 3.8 engines only. The ones in 3.0 engines are two wire single speed and not enough for our engines. Another top rated and much desired is a dual fan setup from a ford windstar minivan, fits very good also.

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Old 10-23-2004, 01:25 AM   #18
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I haven't wired mine yet (I have the front clip off)but I wire complete race cars and such so it won't be a problem! I've been a car stereo guy since flipper was a minnow!


The maxima fans are atleast dual speed!
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Old 10-23-2004, 06:10 AM   #19
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The ultimate junkyard fans are the Lincoln Mark VIII ('97 and up). I need one if someone comes across one. Getting pricey on E-bay even. New are high. 4500-5000 cfm at 33 amps. A lot of the PT guys are running these. Probably not a good choice on the lower amperage alternators though.
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Old 10-23-2004, 10:24 AM   #20
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I would go with wes' fan alway's try to support boardmember's 1st.... Anybody have a diagram of the correct way to wire an electric fan????? Or link to a site??
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Old 10-23-2004, 11:04 AM   #21
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Fan wiring diagram

start by getting these supplies

30/40 amp automotive relay
10ga fuse holder and 30 amp fuse
temp switch to mount in intake or head 180 degree(this is up to you)
I'd put a manual switch inside to be able to activate from inside


Relay wiring
85 to ignition power
86 to one side of temp switch other side of temp switch to ground. if you do the manual switch I'd ground one side then the take the side to this terminal also
87 fused power from battery put the fuse within 18 inches of the battery
30 output to the fans then ground the fans of course


Feel free to ask questions.
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10.39 1/4 @ 125.83

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Old 10-23-2004, 08:05 PM   #22
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I can vouch for that setup. I'm running it too. i put up a FAQ about a year ago with all the information but it has since been removed. I had wiring diagrams and all kinds of stuff. I've been running the setup for about 3 years now and have had no problems and no overheats. A recommendation would be to use the water tight posilock four wire connectors to hook it up to make it easily removeable. I swaped motors about 5 times since the fan installation and wore out the plug on connectors over and over again from removing fans and such. Also it looks kinda nice when you install with 2-1/2 x 2-1/2 angle aluminum. just grind the edges to curve to the radiator hold-downs. try to find the fans with pegs in the bottom instead of bolt and you can had it held in with onyl two bolts. I can have my fans out in 30 seconds with that setup.
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Here is my wiring diagram. Some guys like to put a relay between the manual override switch and the thermustat.
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