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23and56 · 11-19-2004, 11:22 PM

Would like to have a little input from members on this board about a non paying member.I sold a used lund sun visor to a gent from this board and sent it to him on oct 25 and he received it on the 29 acording to ups.He has only e mail me once to say he hasn't had time to send out money yet.How long does a guy wait before i let out his board name.I think he's had plenty of time what is your opinions.Ive always trusted the board members but I guess its a lesson learned.No more sending product till I get payed first.Not like the fiftys where a hand shake or where you could take a guys word.I guess Ill give him till next week and if no money I will post his board name.Trust there ain't none anymore.

*gn4u2c* · 11-19-2004, 11:31 PM

Hmm. just try calling him don't be rude or he may start ducking ya . just let him know it's time to pay. I belive all people are good until proven wrong. I would say 14 days is enough time.

23and56 · 11-19-2004, 11:40 PM

Sold lund sun visor to member and sent out oct 25 and he received it on the 29 from ups.Finally received one e mail ststing he's had no time to get money order as he's working out of town and dosen't get home till 8 at night.Hate to post menbers name as yet but I feeling I have given plenty of time.Promised he would send next week and then same next week but no money.How long should I wait before posting name as he won't answer e mail.Learned a lesson don't trust no one.After this money first befor shipping.Would like your opinons.Thanks

cliffsta · 11-19-2004, 11:48 PM

IMO, i would give the mods or whoever a day or two to see this post, they should do something as the mods are always here watching. If in an odd occurance they do nothing, then i would contact them and seek their advice.

c-1072 · 11-20-2004, 12:18 AM

I just hate when guys like that pull stuff . i would say 1out of ten times the guy has a legit reason for not paying its even happend to me . Its the bigger man who stepps up and appologizes and makes it right .

boraxman · 11-20-2004, 12:37 AM

Youre pretty trusting, I would never ship til cash is in hand.

***Josh*** · 11-20-2004, 12:37 AM

PM me his name and I'll ban him until this matter is resolved.

Josh

***Liz*** · 11-20-2004, 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cliffsta

IMO, i would give the mods or whoever a day or two to see this post, they should do something as the mods are always here watching. If in an odd occurance they do nothing, then i would contact them and seek their advice.

or perhaps you could PM a mod or admin so they do see it..

patgizz · 11-20-2004, 01:06 AM

why would you send something without the cash in hand?

*1972C10* · 11-20-2004, 01:08 AM

Id never think of sending a part out untill i recived payment.

badone07 · 11-20-2004, 01:10 AM

Not hard to see who it is, with a simple search. Looks like the non-payer hasn't posted since 10-25.

cliffsta · 11-20-2004, 01:14 AM

lol @ mhc. I figure you guys get more than enough PMs, and y'all are always around, so I personally wouldn't clog up your inbox

That's just me

crews · 11-20-2004, 01:16 AM

Because trust is a two way street. I had "won" some parts on Evil bay, sent the money paypal, and waited 8 weeks to get the parts. It was only after I threatened to report him to E-bay that he finally came through. Then he threatened ME with negative feedback as well.

It's a risk both parties have to take...unfortunately one must happen before the other.

It kind of falls back on whether you feel that you can trust the other party involved.

DennyB · 11-20-2004, 02:56 AM

This is sad, remember that sending a part w/o payment to a well established board member still has risks, although odds are good that it won't be a problem. I have done this myself without problems. (Thanks Tink!)
To sent out a part to someone with only 20 something post is very risky.
Hopefully we this can be resolved.

23and56 · 11-20-2004, 08:22 AM

I sent the visor out early cause I had to run 12 miles to town to weigh and measure it and did not want to run in again.The money dosen't mean crap to me its the idea.I just don't want to see any other board member have the same problem with him.Hell I love this car and truck hobbie and the people involved with it and Im a trusting person as I have been in this stuff since I was 10 yrs old,back in the 50s.Ive bought and sold on e bay and I send parts early with no problems, but this will change my ways.Thanks to all replies and keep on TRUCKING.

8t5Silverado · 11-20-2004, 11:38 AM

I guess I am too trusting...but then again, I usually use Paypal.

If it is someone on this board, then it really depends on how familiar I am with them. So far, I would say 99% of the guys and gals on here are pretty straight, good people.

I have bought stuff from someone on the board, sent the money, and heard nothing for days and they stop posting. The mod was very helpful. It turned out he honestly was busy and I got my stuff just a little later than I had hoped.

junkyardpartseeker · 11-21-2004, 04:39 AM

This is a sad post. I have been in that situation many times on the trust part.
What I do now, is I usually overestimate the shipping cost from the top of my head.
I tell them I will refund any excess shipping. After mailed, I paypal back the difference in the shipping cost.

Tommy

76HighSierra · 11-21-2004, 06:49 AM

I've even been burned by someone I considered a close friend, by doing what you did. It really is too bad that a man's word seems to mean very little anymore. Any more, until the cash is in my hands, I won't so much as even package anything. I don't sell very much online anymore. Too many deadbeats and tire kickers. My time and patience is a precious commodity, these days. I hate having both wasted.

junkyardpartseeker · 11-21-2004, 08:35 AM

76HighSierra,
check your pm's. I have been trying to get ahold of you.
Tommy

loblazer · 11-23-2004, 02:22 PM

I agree with 23and56. I too am from the old school of trust and handshakes. Unfortunately the world is changing. If I receive goods, the money is out the next day. If you don't have the money, don't order it!!! Why wuld you burn some giy for a lousy $25.00? You guys that give this jerk 10-14 days to rectify it are way to kind.
Doug

*1FaastC10* · 11-23-2004, 07:34 PM

i never ship anything until not only do i have the cash in my paypal account, but until after the paypal deposit is made into my account. had several guys (none board members) send me money for parts via paypal, then after i sent them tracking numbers and such try to dispute the charges to their paypal account. of course, i won, since i had docementation of all of the dealings leading up to the transaction, and proof that it was shipped. rather than get scammed by the bad ones, i just wait it out until everything is cleared, unless of course it is someone who i have known for a long time or desperately needs the item.

badone07 · 11-23-2004, 11:42 PM

That tops my list with internet transactions. Then being a buyer paying in advance and getting stiffed. Followed by holding something for someeone who desperately needs an item and never hearing from them again after they jerk you around for a while.

cliffsta · 11-24-2004, 12:59 AM

So has it been resolved yet? I'm actually following this thread

88Jimmy4x4 · 11-24-2004, 09:39 AM

I wouldn't have banned him until this was resolved, all that accomplishes is a break in the communication link, if that member dared to post on here the members would be all over him.

23and56 · 11-24-2004, 10:15 AM

No it has not been taken care of yet.I have e mailed him again half a dozen times but no answer.I'll wait till after thanksgiving and give him another chance to send payment.If not then I'll see that he banned.Probably with a little holiday time off he will think again.

11-19-2004, 11:22 PM	#1
23and56 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: barnum Posts: 127	Non paying board member Would like to have a little input from members on this board about a non paying member.I sold a used lund sun visor to a gent from this board and sent it to him on oct 25 and he received it on the 29 acording to ups.He has only e mail me once to say he hasn't had time to send out money yet.How long does a guy wait before i let out his board name.I think he's had plenty of time what is your opinions.Ive always trusted the board members but I guess its a lesson learned.No more sending product till I get payed first.Not like the fiftys where a hand shake or where you could take a guys word.I guess Ill give him till next week and if no money I will post his board name.Trust there ain't none anymore.

11-19-2004, 11:40 PM	#3
23and56 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: barnum Posts: 127	non paying board member Sold lund sun visor to member and sent out oct 25 and he received it on the 29 from ups.Finally received one e mail ststing he's had no time to get money order as he's working out of town and dosen't get home till 8 at night.Hate to post menbers name as yet but I feeling I have given plenty of time.Promised he would send next week and then same next week but no money.How long should I wait before posting name as he won't answer e mail.Learned a lesson don't trust no one.After this money first befor shipping.Would like your opinons.Thanks

11-19-2004, 11:48 PM	#4
cliffsta Stepsides RULE Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pineville, LA Posts: 1,921	IMO, i would give the mods or whoever a day or two to see this post, they should do something as the mods are always here watching. If in an odd occurance they do nothing, then i would contact them and seek their advice. __________________ 1981 Chevy C10 Custom Deluxe Stepside 350 V8, headers, side exhausts, 3-speed auto SOLD 1980 Chevy C10 Custum Deluxe Stepside 305 V8, Edelbrock Performer Intake, Edelbrock 1406 600CFM 4-barrel, TH350C. Bent rod. SOLD 1984 GMC Sierra Classic Longbed 6.2L Diesel SOLD 2009 Kawasaki KLX-250S too many mods for this signature 1999 Honda Accord EX 4-cylinder, 17" Motegi Wheels 215/45/17 Sumitomo tires, Tein S-Tech lowering springs, KYB GR2 shocks, Acura TL 20mm rear swaybar, debadged, blackhoused headlights, Short-Ram Intake Cardomain of the Accord

11-20-2004, 12:18 AM	#5
c-1072 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: rochester NY Posts: 777	Word I just hate when guys like that pull stuff . i would say 1out of ten times the guy has a legit reason for not paying its even happend to me . Its the bigger man who stepps up and appologizes and makes it right .

11-20-2004, 12:37 AM	#6
boraxman Keepin an eye out Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: So.Cal Posts: 3,920	Youre pretty trusting, I would never ship til cash is in hand. __________________ 1970 Chevy C10 SWB 5.3 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR5 4x4 2007 Vespa GTS 250 Scooter ZIP 91351

11-19-2004, 11:31 PM	#2
gn4u2c Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: southern pa Posts: 698	Hmm. just try calling him don't be rude or he may start ducking ya . just let him know it's time to pay. I belive all people are good until proven wrong. I would say 14 days is enough time.

11-20-2004, 12:37 AM	#7
*Josh* He's got mean nasty FANGS! Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Rockwell, NC Posts: 6,591	PM me his name and I'll ban him until this matter is resolved. Josh __________________ 2004 K2500 Burb 1999 C3500 1985 Cutlass Supreme 1969 C-10 1967 C-10 Panel josh@67-72chevytrucks.com 6772chevycom@gmail.com

11-20-2004, 01:06 AM	#9
patgizz Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 429	why would you send something without the cash in hand?

11-20-2004, 01:08 AM	#10
1972C10 Account Suspended Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 2,686	Id never think of sending a part out untill i recived payment.

11-20-2004, 01:10 AM	#11
badone07 Project 2 Resume Join Date: May 2004 Location: Jim Thorpe, PA Posts: 884	Not hard to see who it is, with a simple search. Looks like the non-payer hasn't posted since 10-25. __________________ John 1984 C30 Chevy Crew Cab Dually 1998 Jeep Cherokee 4x4 2004 Chevy Trailblazer 4x4 (wife's) 1970 Mustang FB fully tubed (getting 521 BBF & powerglide) 1978 Nova 2dr (going BBCaddy & S.P. th400) 1984 Monte SS (circle track car)

11-20-2004, 01:14 AM	#12
cliffsta Stepsides RULE Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pineville, LA Posts: 1,921	lol @ mhc. I figure you guys get more than enough PMs, and y'all are always around, so I personally wouldn't clog up your inbox That's just me __________________ 1981 Chevy C10 Custom Deluxe Stepside 350 V8, headers, side exhausts, 3-speed auto SOLD 1980 Chevy C10 Custum Deluxe Stepside 305 V8, Edelbrock Performer Intake, Edelbrock 1406 600CFM 4-barrel, TH350C. Bent rod. SOLD 1984 GMC Sierra Classic Longbed 6.2L Diesel SOLD 2009 Kawasaki KLX-250S too many mods for this signature 1999 Honda Accord EX 4-cylinder, 17" Motegi Wheels 215/45/17 Sumitomo tires, Tein S-Tech lowering springs, KYB GR2 shocks, Acura TL 20mm rear swaybar, debadged, blackhoused headlights, Short-Ram Intake Cardomain of the Accord

11-20-2004, 01:16 AM	#13
crews It just doesn't matter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Huntington Beach, Ca Posts: 1,660	Because trust is a two way street. I had "won" some parts on Evil bay, sent the money paypal, and waited 8 weeks to get the parts. It was only after I threatened to report him to E-bay that he finally came through. Then he threatened ME with negative feedback as well. It's a risk both parties have to take...unfortunately one must happen before the other. It kind of falls back on whether you feel that you can trust the other party involved. __________________ 05 Chevy Silverado..... A rogue BMW guy.... If you don't like me- TAKE A NUMBER; There are people ahead of you!!

11-20-2004, 02:56 AM	#14
DennyB Led Sled! Discs R 4 ME! Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toms River, NJ, USA (Transplanted Hoosier) Posts: 7,327	This is sad, remember that sending a part w/o payment to a well established board member still has risks, although odds are good that it won't be a problem. I have done this myself without problems. (Thanks Tink!) To sent out a part to someone with only 20 something post is very risky. Hopefully we this can be resolved. __________________ "Never ride faster than your Angel can fly" I.M.O.M,W,J&C Patriot Guard Rider

11-20-2004, 08:22 AM	#15
23and56 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: barnum Posts: 127	I sent the visor out early cause I had to run 12 miles to town to weigh and measure it and did not want to run in again.The money dosen't mean crap to me its the idea.I just don't want to see any other board member have the same problem with him.Hell I love this car and truck hobbie and the people involved with it and Im a trusting person as I have been in this stuff since I was 10 yrs old,back in the 50s.Ive bought and sold on e bay and I send parts early with no problems, but this will change my ways.Thanks to all replies and keep on TRUCKING.

11-20-2004, 11:38 AM	#16
8t5Silverado Mudslides 'r my specialty Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: STL Posts: 1,106	I guess I am too trusting...but then again, I usually use Paypal. If it is someone on this board, then it really depends on how familiar I am with them. So far, I would say 99% of the guys and gals on here are pretty straight, good people. I have bought stuff from someone on the board, sent the money, and heard nothing for days and they stop posting. The mod was very helpful. It turned out he honestly was busy and I got my stuff just a little later than I had hoped. __________________ Always on the lookout for old cars and parts...(20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, etc.) http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/500339



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11-21-2004, 04:39 AM	#17
junkyardpartseeker Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Mabelvale, AR Posts: 695	This is a sad post. I have been in that situation many times on the trust part. What I do now, is I usually overestimate the shipping cost from the top of my head. I tell them I will refund any excess shipping. After mailed, I paypal back the difference in the shipping cost. Tommy __________________ junkyardpartseeker@sbcglobal.net

11-21-2004, 06:49 AM	#18
76HighSierra DAMN, I love Big Blocks! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 619	I've even been burned by someone I considered a close friend, by doing what you did. It really is too bad that a man's word seems to mean very little anymore. Any more, until the cash is in my hands, I won't so much as even package anything. I don't sell very much online anymore. Too many deadbeats and tire kickers. My time and patience is a precious commodity, these days. I hate having both wasted. __________________ Marc Bona Hobbs, New Mexico 1976 1/2 ton GMC High Sierra. 454 c.i.d./ TH400. *Soon to get a mild warming over.* 3.40 rear.

11-21-2004, 08:35 AM	#19
junkyardpartseeker Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Mabelvale, AR Posts: 695	76HighSierra, check your pm's. I have been trying to get ahold of you. Tommy __________________ junkyardpartseeker@sbcglobal.net

11-23-2004, 02:22 PM	#20
loblazer Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Fergus, Ontario Posts: 481	I agree with 23and56. I too am from the old school of trust and handshakes. Unfortunately the world is changing. If I receive goods, the money is out the next day. If you don't have the money, don't order it!!! Why wuld you burn some giy for a lousy $25.00? You guys that give this jerk 10-14 days to rectify it are way to kind. Doug

11-23-2004, 07:34 PM	#21
1FaastC10 Account Suspended Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Elkhart, IN Posts: 6,399	i never ship anything until not only do i have the cash in my paypal account, but until after the paypal deposit is made into my account. had several guys (none board members) send me money for parts via paypal, then after i sent them tracking numbers and such try to dispute the charges to their paypal account. of course, i won, since i had docementation of all of the dealings leading up to the transaction, and proof that it was shipped. rather than get scammed by the bad ones, i just wait it out until everything is cleared, unless of course it is someone who i have known for a long time or desperately needs the item.

11-23-2004, 11:42 PM	#22
badone07 Project 2 Resume Join Date: May 2004 Location: Jim Thorpe, PA Posts: 884	That tops my list with internet transactions. Then being a buyer paying in advance and getting stiffed. Followed by holding something for someeone who desperately needs an item and never hearing from them again after they jerk you around for a while. __________________ John 1984 C30 Chevy Crew Cab Dually 1998 Jeep Cherokee 4x4 2004 Chevy Trailblazer 4x4 (wife's) 1970 Mustang FB fully tubed (getting 521 BBF & powerglide) 1978 Nova 2dr (going BBCaddy & S.P. th400) 1984 Monte SS (circle track car)

11-24-2004, 12:59 AM	#23
cliffsta Stepsides RULE Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pineville, LA Posts: 1,921	So has it been resolved yet? I'm actually following this thread __________________ 1981 Chevy C10 Custom Deluxe Stepside 350 V8, headers, side exhausts, 3-speed auto SOLD 1980 Chevy C10 Custum Deluxe Stepside 305 V8, Edelbrock Performer Intake, Edelbrock 1406 600CFM 4-barrel, TH350C. Bent rod. SOLD 1984 GMC Sierra Classic Longbed 6.2L Diesel SOLD 2009 Kawasaki KLX-250S too many mods for this signature 1999 Honda Accord EX 4-cylinder, 17" Motegi Wheels 215/45/17 Sumitomo tires, Tein S-Tech lowering springs, KYB GR2 shocks, Acura TL 20mm rear swaybar, debadged, blackhoused headlights, Short-Ram Intake Cardomain of the Accord

11-24-2004, 09:39 AM	#24
88Jimmy4x4 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: houston, texas Posts: 1,974	I wouldn't have banned him until this was resolved, all that accomplishes is a break in the communication link, if that member dared to post on here the members would be all over him. __________________ 2008 Silverado Z71 RCSB 1991 GMC Jimmy 4x4 1976 GMC Sierra C15 SWB

11-24-2004, 10:15 AM	#25
23and56 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: barnum Posts: 127	No it has not been taken care of yet.I have e mailed him again half a dozen times but no answer.I'll wait till after thanksgiving and give him another chance to send payment.If not then I'll see that he banned.Probably with a little holiday time off he will think again.

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