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**bigunde** · 12-02-2004, 05:06 PM

does anyone know if they made a 70 with a big block and a manual shift????i am having a time trying figure out clutch linkage.i moved the z-bar fram emount back including moving the little z bar ball back near the oil filter the but the rod doesnt work and this and that.I am about to snatch that 4 speed AND new clutch kit AND newly turned flywheel out and sell it and get me an automatic

Putter · 12-02-2004, 06:02 PM

Snatch it out....and sell the four-speed to me!!!!! (no, really, I would be interested if you go that route).

**bigunde** · 12-02-2004, 06:04 PM

i may go that route but looks like the tranny is a saginaw not a muncie as i thought earlier.i may make someone a great deal

Putter · 12-02-2004, 06:10 PM

So. I don't mind that. I woud be replacing an existing Saginaw. Lemme' know if you decide to go that way.

Harold Shepard · 12-02-2004, 07:16 PM

Bigunde, do a post for rod from pedal to z-bar for three speed truck w/ v8, that should get you to piece that you need to complete your swap. The part should not be expensive. Someone correct me but is the trans. crossmember further forward for a I6 . This may be corrected with the shorter v8 rod, but you may have to move the bellhousing back- I don't think so, but you might

Hope thi helps some- seems like all I have given you is bad news- I might be able to come up w/ rod if can't find one close. Harold

**bigunde** · 12-02-2004, 07:30 PM

heya harold,you have been a great help,im just jinxed,hehe,anyways i got the rod from a v-8 but when i moved the z bar back to that other hole near the oil filter it wont even touch it.

**too much stuff** · 12-02-2004, 07:46 PM

To answer your first question, I recently sold a 72 cheyenne, 1/2 ton, 2wd, 402 with a 3 speed column shift. ALL factory. So yes they were made and parts should be available somewhere... Hope this helps.

Jeremy_5 · 12-02-2004, 08:45 PM

bigunde, you are having a bunch of problems with this swap. You are scaring me becuase I plan to tackle the exact same swap in a couple weeks. I guess it is going to be harder than I thought

Hope you get it figured out!

**bigunde** · 12-02-2004, 08:47 PM

well too-much-stuff has given me a glimmer of hope if i can find all the linkage.

Jeremy_5 · 12-02-2004, 08:48 PM

If you don't mind can you drop me a pm if you figure it out, and tell me how to do it. Thanks

**bigunde** · 12-02-2004, 08:50 PM

you got it,my email is bigunde@bellsouth.net

breeh · 12-02-2004, 09:16 PM

Seems to me that the manual trans big block trucks had a special trans crossmember as well. Someone will correct me if I am wrong!

junkyardjohn · 12-02-2004, 10:02 PM

JEREMY 5 .... THAT 70 TWO TONE, YELLOW & WHITE 3/4 TON IN YOUR AVATAR LOOKS LIKE A TRUCK THAT I USED TO OWN. DID IT COME FROM NEVADA?? ORIGIONALLY FROM COLORADO?? MOTOR OUT OF IT??.

IF SO THAT TRUCK IS A 4 SPEED, & HAD A 396 IN IT WHEN I GOT IT SO THE CLUTCH LINKAGE SHOULD BE THERE.

JOHN

Harold Shepard · 12-02-2004, 11:27 PM

Let me check the build manual and see if I can find something that will help you get this sorted out Bigunde. I'll let you know shortly. Harold

Harold Shepard · 12-03-2004, 12:14 AM

I can't find anything, I am going to the junk yard in the afternoon, I will check the location of the manual trans. cross member and get some reference points for you to go from. Harold

Jeremy_5 · 12-03-2004, 01:44 AM

junkyardjohn,
ya I got it from nevada. Didn't know it was orginally from Colorado though. I haven't looked but it would be extremely nice if the clutch linkage is still there.

12-02-2004, 05:06 PM	#1
bigunde Rusty Rockerfeller Join Date: May 2003 Location: South Georgia Posts: 1,631	more questions on this 350/454 swap does anyone know if they made a 70 with a big block and a manual shift????i am having a time trying figure out clutch linkage.i moved the z-bar fram emount back including moving the little z bar ball back near the oil filter the but the rod doesnt work and this and that.I am about to snatch that 4 speed AND new clutch kit AND newly turned flywheel out and sell it and get me an automatic

12-02-2004, 06:02 PM	#2
Putter More Cowbell.... Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Puckett, MS Posts: 3,569	Snatch it out....and sell the four-speed to me!!!!! (no, really, I would be interested if you go that route). __________________ *There once was a member from Puckett.....Who ( fill in the blank blank blank* ) bucket**

12-02-2004, 06:10 PM	#4
Putter More Cowbell.... Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Puckett, MS Posts: 3,569	So. I don't mind that. I woud be replacing an existing Saginaw. Lemme' know if you decide to go that way. __________________ *There once was a member from Puckett.....Who ( fill in the blank blank blank* ) bucket**

12-02-2004, 07:46 PM	#7
too much stuff Roadtrip! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Grand Rapids MN Posts: 13,790	To answer your first question, I recently sold a 72 cheyenne, 1/2 ton, 2wd, 402 with a 3 speed column shift. ALL factory. So yes they were made and parts should be available somewhere... Hope this helps. __________________ 67 gmc custom lwb dakota truck. Sold...And bought back 69 swb 4x4 project (in progress) 70 c-10 lwb texas truck 70 4x4/BB/bkts/posi/tach(retired) 70 swb (wifes) 70 jimmy camper 71 K-5 factory 2wd 71 cheyenne 4x4/tach/posi/ plow rig 71 Cheyenne20 BB, buckets, tach, tilt, 4 speed 72 jimmy CST wyoming rig 72 jimmy Colorado rig 72 lifted texas 4x4 3/4 ton burb 65 fury conv. 383/auto 65 chrysler 300 "L" 413 auto

12-02-2004, 08:45 PM	#8
Jeremy_5 Truck addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Lincoln, California Posts: 497	bigunde, you are having a bunch of problems with this swap. You are scaring me becuase I plan to tackle the exact same swap in a couple weeks. I guess it is going to be harder than I thought Hope you get it figured out! __________________ 1956 Chevy Napco 1972 Cheyenne Super 1970 K20

12-02-2004, 06:04 PM	#3
bigunde Rusty Rockerfeller Join Date: May 2003 Location: South Georgia Posts: 1,631	i may go that route but looks like the tranny is a saginaw not a muncie as i thought earlier.i may make someone a great deal

12-02-2004, 07:16 PM	#5
Harold Shepard Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Canton North Carolina Posts: 466	Bigunde, do a post for rod from pedal to z-bar for three speed truck w/ v8, that should get you to piece that you need to complete your swap. The part should not be expensive. Someone correct me but is the trans. crossmember further forward for a I6 . This may be corrected with the shorter v8 rod, but you may have to move the bellhousing back- I don't think so, but you might Hope thi helps some- seems like all I have given you is bad news- I might be able to come up w/ rod if can't find one close. Harold

12-02-2004, 07:30 PM	#6
bigunde Rusty Rockerfeller Join Date: May 2003 Location: South Georgia Posts: 1,631	heya harold,you have been a great help,im just jinxed,hehe,anyways i got the rod from a v-8 but when i moved the z bar back to that other hole near the oil filter it wont even touch it.

12-02-2004, 08:47 PM	#9
bigunde Rusty Rockerfeller Join Date: May 2003 Location: South Georgia Posts: 1,631	well too-much-stuff has given me a glimmer of hope if i can find all the linkage.

12-02-2004, 08:48 PM	#10
Jeremy_5 Truck addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Lincoln, California Posts: 497	If you don't mind can you drop me a pm if you figure it out, and tell me how to do it. Thanks __________________ 1956 Chevy Napco 1972 Cheyenne Super 1970 K20

12-02-2004, 08:50 PM	#11
bigunde Rusty Rockerfeller Join Date: May 2003 Location: South Georgia Posts: 1,631	you got it,my email is bigunde@bellsouth.net

12-02-2004, 09:16 PM	#12
breeh Recovering 67-72 Addict Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Bend, WA Posts: 1,788	Seems to me that the manual trans big block trucks had a special trans crossmember as well. Someone will correct me if I am wrong! __________________ 68 Short Fleet 4x4; 427; BTO Level 3 700R4; NP205; Dana 60 front and rear; 4" lift with 35's; Disc brakes; AGR variable ratio steering; factory bucket seats; factory tach and tilt. "Friends call me cruzer cuz I like fast cars and fast women"

12-02-2004, 10:02 PM	#13
junkyardjohn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SOMERSET KY. Posts: 6,425	JEREMY 5 .... THAT 70 TWO TONE, YELLOW & WHITE 3/4 TON IN YOUR AVATAR LOOKS LIKE A TRUCK THAT I USED TO OWN. DID IT COME FROM NEVADA?? ORIGIONALLY FROM COLORADO?? MOTOR OUT OF IT??. IF SO THAT TRUCK IS A 4 SPEED, & HAD A 396 IN IT WHEN I GOT IT SO THE CLUTCH LINKAGE SHOULD BE THERE. JOHN __________________ junkyardjohn 69 1 TON TOW TRUCK // 84 4WD CUCV BLAZER// 85 1 TON 4WD STAKE TRUCK// 86 M1031 5/4 TON 4WD CUCV// ALOT OF OLD TRUCKS FOR ONE OLD MAN TO DRIVE. THERES ROOM FOR ALL OF GODS CREATURES RIGHT NEXT TO MY MASHED POTATOES// LIFE MEMBER OF P.E.T.A (PEOPLE EATING TASTY ANIMALS) DON'T RENT U-HAUL ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH IT WILL AMAZE PART OF THE PEOPLE & ASTONISH THE REST

12-02-2004, 11:27 PM	#14
Harold Shepard Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Canton North Carolina Posts: 466	Let me check the build manual and see if I can find something that will help you get this sorted out Bigunde. I'll let you know shortly. Harold

12-03-2004, 12:14 AM	#15
Harold Shepard Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Canton North Carolina Posts: 466	I can't find anything, I am going to the junk yard in the afternoon, I will check the location of the manual trans. cross member and get some reference points for you to go from. Harold



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12-03-2004, 01:44 AM	#16
Jeremy_5 Truck addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Lincoln, California Posts: 497	junkyardjohn, ya I got it from nevada. Didn't know it was orginally from Colorado though. I haven't looked but it would be extremely nice if the clutch linkage is still there. __________________ 1956 Chevy Napco 1972 Cheyenne Super 1970 K20

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