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sicksanta · 12-08-2004, 07:18 PM

I have a frame that has rusted out sections, do I weld it ? If so, has anyone got any tips to prevent me from screwwing it up ?

The main point of concern is just behind the cab and just in front of the bed.

cableguy0 · 12-08-2004, 07:34 PM

you would be much safer and better off just getting a different frame. if its that bad im sure there are other spots that are just as bad or almost there. welding new metal to old weak metal is a bandaid and wont last. think about what would happen if say you got hit on the side the truck broke in half and the cab went flying with you in it

junkyardjohn · 12-08-2004, 07:35 PM

THROW THAT RUSTY FRAME AWAY & GET ONE THATS NOT RUSTED OUT. YOUR NOT TALKING MUCH MONEY.

JOHN

sicksanta · 12-08-2004, 07:38 PM

This is a 1969 stepside c10 292 , what other models have tha same frame type?
I am in Massachusetts so does any one know any good places to start looking ?

cableguy0 · 12-08-2004, 07:42 PM

short or long bed? look on the parts board theres a few swb's for sale on there now. also any frame the right length from 67-72 will work from a 1/2 ton the 67's didnt have the dimple for a power steering box. but any of them will interchange as long as they are the same suspension if you have a coil spring rear you need another coil spring rear frame same with leafs

sicksanta · 12-08-2004, 07:45 PM

I may sound stupid but I don't know !! I am a "Brit" so this is my first try with a US rebuild. Whats the difference ?

cableguy0 · 12-08-2004, 08:03 PM

the difference with what?

sicksanta · 12-08-2004, 08:40 PM

I don't know if its a long or short bed.. How do I tell them apart ?

cableguy0 · 12-08-2004, 08:49 PM

one will be 6ft one will be 8ft

dwaite72lnghrn · 12-08-2004, 09:33 PM

Welcome to the board from liverpool pa, USA. Does it have a lot of rust holes or is it only little sections? Is the frame solid from the front cross memberunder the engine to the back shock mount in the rear? Where are you located? what type and year truck do you have?

edit: sorry didn't see 69 c10 mass.

kingsolver72 · 12-08-2004, 09:38 PM

Pix would help with an evaluation.

spencra · 12-08-2004, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sicksanta

This is a 1969 stepside c10 292 , what other models have tha same frame type?
I am in Massachusetts so does any one know any good places to start looking ?

Hey sicksanta, What part of Mass are you from. I have a 67 step sitting in my garage and I have been contemplating taking the cab and front clip off and selling the frame. Let me know what you think. If you are interested i'm willing to trade for parts, or money or both.

Larry

sicksanta · 12-08-2004, 10:38 PM

Here are some picks

sicksanta · 12-08-2004, 10:39 PM

I am locate near Chelmsford MA

arkracing · 12-08-2004, 10:54 PM

That looks kinda thin ----

does the rest of the frame look like that..or is the rest of it good?

You should be able to pick up a frame pretty cheap in the Northeast. I'm in CT/RI and thinking of buying a parts truck...so let me know if you are interested and maybe that will give me more incentive to go buy it

sdmahr · 12-08-2004, 10:57 PM

After looking at the PICS, I say crap-can that frame ! ! Thats a problem waiting to turn into a disaster.

junkyardjohn · 12-08-2004, 10:58 PM

I SOLD TWO SWB FRAMES THIS PAST SUMMER FOR $350 & $500. BOTH WERE RUSTFREE. PITCH THAT RUSTY FRAME B-4 SOMEONE GETS KILLED.

JOHN

sicksanta · 12-08-2004, 11:06 PM

Seems to me I have got to get a new frame ! Although $500 seems a little steep... but what do I know

arkracing · 12-08-2004, 11:59 PM

$500 is a little steep...$100 to $250 depending on if it is a roller or not I would say...I might have a lead on a whole truck, and

Spencra has a nice 67 frame in central CT ..you might be able to talk him out of

spencra · 12-09-2004, 12:20 AM

Yeah, I would say that frame has seen it's better days.

Thanks for the pitch Andy. I just have to find the time to get the cab off and finish removing that front clip. If i'm motivated I guess i'll get it off.

Space is my motivation

Maybe I can accomplish stuff on Christmas break.

68w/sbc406 · 12-09-2004, 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by junkyardjohn

...PITCH THAT RUSTY FRAME B-4 SOMEONE GETS KILLED.

JOHN

hey john, maybe you shouldnt put

after every post, kinda get a morbid feeling off of this one

j/k

4x4Poet · 12-09-2004, 02:42 AM

I am so glad i don't live in the Northeast.

Good that you asked, sicksanta. Come to think of it, santa is sick isn't he?

Russell · 12-09-2004, 02:46 AM

Man, thats one seriously rusty frame... I'd get rid of that thing ASAP, one major blow to the side would split that thing right down the center...

junkyardjohn · 12-09-2004, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arkracing

$500 is a little steep...$100 to $250 depending on if it is a roller or not I would say...I might have a lead on a whole truck, and

Spencra has a nice 67 frame in central CT ..you might be able to talk him out of

I HAVE NEVER EVER SOLD A FRAME FOR $250. LONGBED FRAMES, I WONT EVEN KEEP AROUND, BUT SHORTBED FRAMES???

I COULD SELL ALL I COULD GET FOR $100. HOW MANY OF THOSE RUSTFREE $100 SHORTBED FRAMES , WITH TITLES DO YOU HAVE???? I MIGHT MAKE A ROAD TRIP IF IT'S WORTH MY TIME. OR ARE YOU JUST POSTING TO SEE YOUR PRINT IN TYPE??

JOHN

67ChevyRedneck · 12-09-2004, 01:13 PM

Toss the frame!! Your safety isn't worth it.... if the frame is that bad, what in the world does the body look like??? If your "new" to all of this you may want to scrap the whole truck, if the body is as bad as the frame, and look for a southern or western truck. The prices are higher for a solid body, but you save a ton in time, repair panels, and $$$$ in the long run.

12-08-2004, 07:18 PM	#1
sicksanta Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: MASS Posts: 13	Welding a rusty frame (should I) I have a frame that has rusted out sections, do I weld it ? If so, has anyone got any tips to prevent me from screwwing it up ? The main point of concern is just behind the cab and just in front of the bed.

12-08-2004, 07:34 PM	#2
cableguy0 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Delta,Pa Posts: 14,950	you would be much safer and better off just getting a different frame. if its that bad im sure there are other spots that are just as bad or almost there. welding new metal to old weak metal is a bandaid and wont last. think about what would happen if say you got hit on the side the truck broke in half and the cab went flying with you in it __________________ Owner of North Point Car Care in Dundalk Md. We specialize in custom exhaust on both modern and classic vehicles. We are a full service auto shop from classics to modern vehicles. Feel free to contact me with questions. I will give a 10% discount to any board member.

12-08-2004, 07:35 PM	#3
junkyardjohn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SOMERSET KY. Posts: 6,427	THROW THAT RUSTY FRAME AWAY & GET ONE THATS NOT RUSTED OUT. YOUR NOT TALKING MUCH MONEY. JOHN __________________ junkyardjohn 69 1 TON TOW TRUCK // 84 4WD CUCV BLAZER// 85 1 TON 4WD STAKE TRUCK// 86 M1031 5/4 TON 4WD CUCV// ALOT OF OLD TRUCKS FOR ONE OLD MAN TO DRIVE. THERES ROOM FOR ALL OF GODS CREATURES RIGHT NEXT TO MY MASHED POTATOES// LIFE MEMBER OF P.E.T.A (PEOPLE EATING TASTY ANIMALS) DON'T RENT U-HAUL ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH IT WILL AMAZE PART OF THE PEOPLE & ASTONISH THE REST

12-08-2004, 07:42 PM	#5
cableguy0 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Delta,Pa Posts: 14,950	short or long bed? look on the parts board theres a few swb's for sale on there now. also any frame the right length from 67-72 will work from a 1/2 ton the 67's didnt have the dimple for a power steering box. but any of them will interchange as long as they are the same suspension if you have a coil spring rear you need another coil spring rear frame same with leafs __________________ Owner of North Point Car Care in Dundalk Md. We specialize in custom exhaust on both modern and classic vehicles. We are a full service auto shop from classics to modern vehicles. Feel free to contact me with questions. I will give a 10% discount to any board member. Last edited by cableguy0; 12-08-2004 at 07:45 PM.

12-08-2004, 08:03 PM	#7
cableguy0 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Delta,Pa Posts: 14,950	the difference with what? __________________ Owner of North Point Car Care in Dundalk Md. We specialize in custom exhaust on both modern and classic vehicles. We are a full service auto shop from classics to modern vehicles. Feel free to contact me with questions. I will give a 10% discount to any board member.

12-08-2004, 07:38 PM	#4
sicksanta Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: MASS Posts: 13	This is a 1969 stepside c10 292 , what other models have tha same frame type? I am in Massachusetts so does any one know any good places to start looking ?

12-08-2004, 07:45 PM	#6
sicksanta Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: MASS Posts: 13	I may sound stupid but I don't know !! I am a "Brit" so this is my first try with a US rebuild. Whats the difference ?

12-08-2004, 08:40 PM	#8
sicksanta Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: MASS Posts: 13	I don't know if its a long or short bed.. How do I tell them apart ?

12-08-2004, 08:49 PM	#9
cableguy0 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Delta,Pa Posts: 14,950	one will be 6ft one will be 8ft __________________ Owner of North Point Car Care in Dundalk Md. We specialize in custom exhaust on both modern and classic vehicles. We are a full service auto shop from classics to modern vehicles. Feel free to contact me with questions. I will give a 10% discount to any board member.

12-08-2004, 09:33 PM	#10
dwaite72lnghrn Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: central pa Posts: 1,525	Welcome to the board from liverpool pa, USA. Does it have a lot of rust holes or is it only little sections? Is the frame solid from the front cross memberunder the engine to the back shock mount in the rear? Where are you located? what type and year truck do you have? edit: sorry didn't see 69 c10 mass. __________________ 72 longhorn c30 502BB/th400/fact air/4.11rear/ custom camper 72 bug(the better half's) under reconstruction 2009 HHR aqua blue 71 GMC k20 350/sm465 2009 Chevy hd3500 6.6 Victory Red crew cab dually Dave & Jeanne Last edited by dwaite72lnghrn; 12-08-2004 at 10:28 PM. Reason: poor reading skills

12-08-2004, 09:38 PM	#11
kingsolver72 10/30/19 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: ottawa kansas Posts: 5,205	Pix would help with an evaluation.

12-08-2004, 10:38 PM	#13
sicksanta Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: MASS Posts: 13	Here are some picks Attached Images

12-08-2004, 10:39 PM	#14
sicksanta Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: MASS Posts: 13	I am locate near Chelmsford MA

12-08-2004, 10:54 PM	#15
arkracing Weekend Warrior Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: CT Posts: 1,787	That looks kinda thin ---- does the rest of the frame look like that..or is the rest of it good? You should be able to pick up a frame pretty cheap in the Northeast. I'm in CT/RI and thinking of buying a parts truck...so let me know if you are interested and maybe that will give me more incentive to go buy it __________________ -'07 GMC Sierra K2500HD -'66 C10 Suburban -'68/'71 K20 Service Bed Project -'69 Chevy C30 Mason Dump -'33Ford P/U 396ChevyPowered

12-08-2004, 10:57 PM	#16
sdmahr Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: South Texas....the Valley Posts: 199	After looking at the PICS, I say crap-can that frame ! ! Thats a problem waiting to turn into a disaster.



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12-08-2004, 10:58 PM	#17
junkyardjohn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SOMERSET KY. Posts: 6,427	I SOLD TWO SWB FRAMES THIS PAST SUMMER FOR $350 & $500. BOTH WERE RUSTFREE. PITCH THAT RUSTY FRAME B-4 SOMEONE GETS KILLED. JOHN __________________ junkyardjohn 69 1 TON TOW TRUCK // 84 4WD CUCV BLAZER// 85 1 TON 4WD STAKE TRUCK// 86 M1031 5/4 TON 4WD CUCV// ALOT OF OLD TRUCKS FOR ONE OLD MAN TO DRIVE. THERES ROOM FOR ALL OF GODS CREATURES RIGHT NEXT TO MY MASHED POTATOES// LIFE MEMBER OF P.E.T.A (PEOPLE EATING TASTY ANIMALS) DON'T RENT U-HAUL ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH IT WILL AMAZE PART OF THE PEOPLE & ASTONISH THE REST

12-08-2004, 11:06 PM	#18
sicksanta Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: MASS Posts: 13	Seems to me I have got to get a new frame ! Although $500 seems a little steep... but what do I know __________________ I think therefor I am I'm pink therefor I'm spam (spike milligan)

12-08-2004, 11:59 PM	#19
arkracing Weekend Warrior Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: CT Posts: 1,787	$500 is a little steep...$100 to $250 depending on if it is a roller or not I would say...I might have a lead on a whole truck, and Spencra has a nice 67 frame in central CT ..you might be able to talk him out of __________________ -'07 GMC Sierra K2500HD -'66 C10 Suburban -'68/'71 K20 Service Bed Project -'69 Chevy C30 Mason Dump -'33Ford P/U 396ChevyPowered

12-09-2004, 12:20 AM	#20
spencra This, is my BOOMSTICK! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Berlin, CT Posts: 1,310	Yeah, I would say that frame has seen it's better days. Thanks for the pitch Andy. I just have to find the time to get the cab off and finish removing that front clip. If i'm motivated I guess i'll get it off. Space is my motivation Maybe I can accomplish stuff on Christmas break. __________________ Larry Got rid of my projects for now. 1980 Jeep CJ7 1998 Nissan Sentra (my car) 2001 Toyota Sienna (wife's, of course)

12-09-2004, 02:42 AM	#22
4x4Poet Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: "Under Montana skies." Posts: 1,836	I am so glad i don't live in the Northeast. Good that you asked, sicksanta. Come to think of it, santa is sick isn't he? __________________ '71 GMC K20 Suburban, '71 GMC K10 Suburban, '72 Chevy C10 CST Suburban, '72 Chevy K20 clunker pickup.

12-09-2004, 02:46 AM	#23
Russell Professional Grade Join Date: May 2003 Location: Fort McMurray, Alberta Posts: 7,915	Man, thats one seriously rusty frame... I'd get rid of that thing ASAP, one major blow to the side would split that thing right down the center... __________________ 1995 Chevrolet 2 Door Tahoe (6.6L LBZ Duramax / ZF6 / NP241 with 1 ton solid axle swap)

12-09-2004, 01:13 PM	#25
67ChevyRedneck Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 23,090	Toss the frame!! Your safety isn't worth it.... if the frame is that bad, what in the world does the body look like??? If your "new" to all of this you may want to scrap the whole truck, if the body is as bad as the frame, and look for a southern or western truck. The prices are higher for a solid body, but you save a ton in time, repair panels, and $$$$ in the long run.

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