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BadAssChevy502 · 01-19-2005, 11:37 AM

Ok this maybe a stupid question but I was wondering…………..

I can buy a rear axle from a 1977 lincoln Versailles now the man says it a 9 inch ford rear is this correct ,and also will it fit my 1972 C20 ???

Thanks in advance for all the your input

**StingRay** · 01-19-2005, 11:54 AM

I believe that car is Granada based. Better measure. I know the disc brake housings form the MK cars are almost perfect with the right bolt pattern axles and all. The ratio's are usually quite high in them though.

Bamm · 01-19-2005, 12:14 PM

If I remember correctly there is a 2" total difference, so that would be 1" on both sides shorter. The bolt pattern is supposed to be the same 5 on 5. I'm not a f52d guy so please double check me on this, but I looked into it a few years ago and even found a rear, but decided it wasn't worth the price and work. ......Jerry

junkyardjohn · 01-19-2005, 12:15 PM

I'VE GOT A NINE INCH OUT OF A 75 MKIV. IT HAS DISCs & A 5 ON 5 BOLT PATTERN (SAME AS OUR TRUCKS). IT'S WITHIN AN INCH OR SO OF BEING THE SAME WIDTH. I TRADED A FRIEND (WHO OWNS A DRIVELINE SHOP) A BUNCH OF PARTS TO PUT A NEW POSI UNIT IN IT, & CHANGE OUT THE RING & PINION FOR 3.55 TO 1 GEARS. HE ALSO REPLACED ALL SEALS & BEARINGS. I HAVEN'T GOT THIS PROJECT ROADWORTHY YET, BUT IT SHOULD BE BY MID-SUMMER.

JOHN

jhow66 · 01-19-2005, 12:59 PM

Better check the prices on parts for the Versailles(if you can find them).Ford does not carry parts for these any more.

junkyardjohn · 01-19-2005, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhow66

Better check the prices on parts for the Versailles(if you can find them).Ford does not carry parts for these any more.

I'M NOT A FORD GUY BY ANY MEANS, BUT ISN'T A 9 INCH THIRD MEMBER OR CENTER SECTION THE SAME FOR A WHOLE BUNCH OF MODELS??

JOHN

**StingRay** · 01-19-2005, 01:52 PM

Yup as long as the spline count is correct for your axles any should fit.

jhow66 · 01-19-2005, 02:27 PM

Not talking about the stump--calipers. rotors, brackets,parking brakes parts, etc.. I know because my son-in-law just got one to try to put in his 56 Chevy. Found out you cannot shorten axles or find parts for the items I listed. Any one want to buy a good Lincoln Ver. 9" disc brake rearend? CHEAP!

*Shane* · 01-19-2005, 02:51 PM

the Versailles rear is the rear of choice for the Street Rod crowd ... so much so that they are dang near impossible to find anymore.

1969 GMC · 01-19-2005, 03:39 PM

uhh...are you gonna carry two spares? or are you converting your front suspension to 5 lug?

72402 · 01-19-2005, 03:45 PM

That's right, street rodders like'em for the width, only an inch or so wider than the early mustang. I'm not positive, but I thought they had 5 x 4 1/2" bolt pattern.

BadAssChevy502 · 01-19-2005, 05:31 PM

Hey thanks all for your quick answers i was thinking of converting to 5 lug if the axle should fitt.

The guy is asking 200 (is that to much??) dollars for the axle,and is not sure if it is A posi,he's getting back to me on that ,and also on the dimensions .

Can anyone post A picture off this axle so i can compare them to see if it's the correct one

Thanks in advance

Vince Putt · 01-19-2005, 07:17 PM

I have a one of these rears. They are approx 55" bmeasured back of rotor to back of rotor. I'll check to make sure if you really want me to. They are 5x 4.5 bolt pattern. they use a tapered axle so they can't be shortened. I original bought it to go in a 70 z28 many years ago. it was too narrow to clear the leaf springs. Latter I used in in my 85 pro streeter. It will go under the 67 we're building now. $200 is a good price you can easily sell it for that much to the street rodders like Shane & 72402 said.

BadAssChevy502 · 01-20-2005, 08:25 AM

Can somebody please post some pictures ?

Thanks

Tx Firefighter · 01-20-2005, 09:16 AM

You'd have 8 lug front wheels and 5 on 4 1/2 car pattern rear wheels.

Also, if your truck is a coil spring truck, you'll have to do some mods to get the panhard bar mounted to the rearend as well as the spring pad change.

bigjimzlll · 01-20-2005, 10:20 AM

on a ford 9" the bottom bolts on the center section can not be removed with a rachet and socket...on a 8" they can

jhow66 · 01-21-2005, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadAssChevy502

Hey thanks all for your quick answers i was thinking of converting to 5 lug if the axle should fitt.

The guy is asking 200 (is that to much??) dollars for the axle,and is not sure if it is A posi,he's getting back to me on that ,and also on the dimensions .

Can anyone post A picture off this axle so i can compare them to see if it's the correct one

Thanks in advance

Here you go BAC502

jhow66 · 01-21-2005, 11:52 PM

One more:

Bamm · 01-22-2005, 02:01 AM

My bad on the bolt pattern, so it must be the Mark IV that had the 5 on 5 pattern?

ABHaulR · 01-22-2005, 11:56 AM

if you have 8 lug now, you can get a 14ff and convert it to disk brakes. its pretty easy. you then dont have to change you front end to a different bolt pattern,(No FURD parts) LOL....

Dwayne

junkyardjohn · 01-22-2005, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ABHaulR

if you have 8 lug now, you can get a 14ff and convert it to disk brakes. its pretty easy. you then dont have to change you front end to a different bolt pattern,(No FURD parts) LOL....

Dwayne

I'VE GOT A 14 BOLT FULL FLOATER THAT HAS BEEN CONVERTED TO DISCs. $300 FIRM & NO SHIPPING.

JOHN

*rage'nrat638* · 01-22-2005, 03:38 PM

a little work it will look like this

01-19-2005, 11:37 AM	#1
BadAssChevy502 Yeh It's Fast Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Zwijndrecht ,The Netherlands ,Europe Posts: 143	Will A 1977 lincoln versailles rear end fitt my truck Ok this maybe a stupid question but I was wondering………….. I can buy a rear axle from a 1977 lincoln Versailles now the man says it a 9 inch ford rear is this correct ,and also will it fit my 1972 C20 ??? Thanks in advance for all the your input __________________ (I'm sorry if the spelling isn't correct,i'm trying the best I can ) 1972 C20 3/4 Pickup Fleetside 502ci Th400 Click here to view pictures of my truck 1971 C20 3/4 Pickup Fleetside 350ci 3speed manual gearbox "IF IT AIN'T BROKE DON'T TRY TO FIX IT" Zwijndrecht, The Netherlands Europe

01-19-2005, 11:54 AM	#2
StingRay Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Saskatoon,SK,Canada Posts: 2,476	I believe that car is Granada based. Better measure. I know the disc brake housings form the MK cars are almost perfect with the right bolt pattern axles and all. The ratio's are usually quite high in them though. __________________ Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Canada

01-19-2005, 12:14 PM	#3
Bamm Cowboy Fan for Life!!!!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Amelia, Virginia Posts: 2,921	If I remember correctly there is a 2" total difference, so that would be 1" on both sides shorter. The bolt pattern is supposed to be the same 5 on 5. I'm not a f52d guy so please double check me on this, but I looked into it a few years ago and even found a rear, but decided it wasn't worth the price and work. ......Jerry __________________ 1967 ShortBed Fleetside 3/4 Drop 350/700R4 Tilt wheel 18 x 8 Torque Thrust II's Future mods: All new gauges & wood bed My Zip is 23002 I ship UPS, USPS

01-19-2005, 12:15 PM	#4
junkyardjohn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SOMERSET KY. Posts: 6,425	I'VE GOT A NINE INCH OUT OF A 75 MKIV. IT HAS DISCs & A 5 ON 5 BOLT PATTERN (SAME AS OUR TRUCKS). IT'S WITHIN AN INCH OR SO OF BEING THE SAME WIDTH. I TRADED A FRIEND (WHO OWNS A DRIVELINE SHOP) A BUNCH OF PARTS TO PUT A NEW POSI UNIT IN IT, & CHANGE OUT THE RING & PINION FOR 3.55 TO 1 GEARS. HE ALSO REPLACED ALL SEALS & BEARINGS. I HAVEN'T GOT THIS PROJECT ROADWORTHY YET, BUT IT SHOULD BE BY MID-SUMMER. JOHN __________________ junkyardjohn 69 1 TON TOW TRUCK // 84 4WD CUCV BLAZER// 85 1 TON 4WD STAKE TRUCK// 86 M1031 5/4 TON 4WD CUCV// ALOT OF OLD TRUCKS FOR ONE OLD MAN TO DRIVE. THERES ROOM FOR ALL OF GODS CREATURES RIGHT NEXT TO MY MASHED POTATOES// LIFE MEMBER OF P.E.T.A (PEOPLE EATING TASTY ANIMALS) DON'T RENT U-HAUL ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH IT WILL AMAZE PART OF THE PEOPLE & ASTONISH THE REST

01-19-2005, 12:59 PM	#5
jhow66 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Knoxville Tenn. Posts: 3,058	Better check the prices on parts for the Versailles(if you can find them).Ford does not carry parts for these any more. __________________ 56 Chevy Bel-Air 2dr. HT (purchased new) 71 Chevy Cheyenne SWB PU (502HO) 65 GMC short bed step--work in progress and my gofer

01-19-2005, 01:52 PM	#7
StingRay Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Saskatoon,SK,Canada Posts: 2,476	Yup as long as the spline count is correct for your axles any should fit. __________________ Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Canada

01-19-2005, 02:27 PM	#8
jhow66 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Knoxville Tenn. Posts: 3,058	Not talking about the stump--calipers. rotors, brackets,parking brakes parts, etc.. I know because my son-in-law just got one to try to put in his 56 Chevy. Found out you cannot shorten axles or find parts for the items I listed. Any one want to buy a good Lincoln Ver. 9" disc brake rearend? CHEAP! __________________ 56 Chevy Bel-Air 2dr. HT (purchased new) 71 Chevy Cheyenne SWB PU (502HO) 65 GMC short bed step--work in progress and my gofer

01-19-2005, 02:51 PM	#9
Shane Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: over yonder Posts: 14,270	the Versailles rear is the rear of choice for the Street Rod crowd ... so much so that they are dang near impossible to find anymore.

01-19-2005, 03:39 PM	#10
1969 GMC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The Rubber City Posts: 5,498	uhh...are you gonna carry two spares? or are you converting your front suspension to 5 lug? __________________ 1969 GMC K2500 1996 Honda Accord 2007 Kawasaki KLR 650

01-19-2005, 03:45 PM	#11
72402 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cameron, Oklahoma Posts: 199	That's right, street rodders like'em for the width, only an inch or so wider than the early mustang. I'm not positive, but I thought they had 5 x 4 1/2" bolt pattern.

01-19-2005, 05:31 PM	#12
BadAssChevy502 Yeh It's Fast Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Zwijndrecht ,The Netherlands ,Europe Posts: 143	Hey thanks all Hey thanks all for your quick answers i was thinking of converting to 5 lug if the axle should fitt. The guy is asking 200 (is that to much??) dollars for the axle,and is not sure if it is A posi,he's getting back to me on that ,and also on the dimensions . Can anyone post A picture off this axle so i can compare them to see if it's the correct one Thanks in advance __________________ (I'm sorry if the spelling isn't correct,i'm trying the best I can ) 1972 C20 3/4 Pickup Fleetside 502ci Th400 Click here to view pictures of my truck 1971 C20 3/4 Pickup Fleetside 350ci 3speed manual gearbox "IF IT AIN'T BROKE DON'T TRY TO FIX IT" Zwijndrecht, The Netherlands Europe

01-19-2005, 07:17 PM	#13
Vince Putt Hippy Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: kaska, pa Posts: 95	I have a one of these rears. They are approx 55" bmeasured back of rotor to back of rotor. I'll check to make sure if you really want me to. They are 5x 4.5 bolt pattern. they use a tapered axle so they can't be shortened. I original bought it to go in a 70 z28 many years ago. it was too narrow to clear the leaf springs. Latter I used in in my 85 pro streeter. It will go under the 67 we're building now. $200 is a good price you can easily sell it for that much to the street rodders like Shane & 72402 said.

01-20-2005, 08:25 AM	#14
BadAssChevy502 Yeh It's Fast Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Zwijndrecht ,The Netherlands ,Europe Posts: 143	Pictures Anyone??? Can somebody please post some pictures ? Thanks __________________ (I'm sorry if the spelling isn't correct,i'm trying the best I can ) 1972 C20 3/4 Pickup Fleetside 502ci Th400 Click here to view pictures of my truck 1971 C20 3/4 Pickup Fleetside 350ci 3speed manual gearbox "IF IT AIN'T BROKE DON'T TRY TO FIX IT" Zwijndrecht, The Netherlands Europe

01-20-2005, 09:16 AM	#15
Tx Firefighter Watch out for your cornhole ! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Azle, Texas Posts: 14,162	You'd have 8 lug front wheels and 5 on 4 1/2 car pattern rear wheels. Also, if your truck is a coil spring truck, you'll have to do some mods to get the panhard bar mounted to the rearend as well as the spring pad change. __________________ I'm on the Instagram- @Gearhead_Kevin

01-20-2005, 10:20 AM	#16
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01-21-2005, 11:52 PM	#18
jhow66 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Knoxville Tenn. Posts: 3,058	One more: Attached Images __________________ 56 Chevy Bel-Air 2dr. HT (purchased new) 71 Chevy Cheyenne SWB PU (502HO) 65 GMC short bed step--work in progress and my gofer

01-22-2005, 02:01 AM	#19
Bamm Cowboy Fan for Life!!!!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Amelia, Virginia Posts: 2,921	My bad on the bolt pattern, so it must be the Mark IV that had the 5 on 5 pattern? __________________ 1967 ShortBed Fleetside 3/4 Drop 350/700R4 Tilt wheel 18 x 8 Torque Thrust II's Future mods: All new gauges & wood bed My Zip is 23002 I ship UPS, USPS

01-22-2005, 11:56 AM	#20
ABHaulR Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: West Valley City, Ut Posts: 311	rear end if you have 8 lug now, you can get a 14ff and convert it to disk brakes. its pretty easy. you then dont have to change you front end to a different bolt pattern,(No FURD parts) LOL.... Dwayne __________________ 72' GMC Suburban 10 1/2" of Lift, 40" Tires! Waiting for restoration 67' Chevy, What to do??? And Bad Ass American Bulldogs!

01-22-2005, 03:38 PM	#22
rage'nrat638 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: THE FALL GUY CHICAGO IL Posts: 5,883	a little work it will look like this Last edited by rage'nrat638; 07-12-2007 at 07:05 AM.

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