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cochran63 · 01-24-2005, 09:26 PM

Here is a pic of the 427 i set down in my 63 yesterday.

C-10volvo · 01-24-2005, 10:06 PM

NO FAIR!!!! i want one!!

784X4GUY · 01-24-2005, 10:06 PM

Nice looking motor you got there...Later Mike

Russell · 01-24-2005, 10:26 PM

:drool:

benscool1 · 01-25-2005, 01:27 AM

Niiice. Not to steal the thread but my family owns a farm and one of our grain trucks burned up this fall, it had a 427 in it. I guess the carb and intake melted together, is that motor worth anything? I haven't seen it first hand but the starter was what started the fire, I assume it didn't do too much damage to the block and heads but haven't seen it yet. My uncle is trying to get rid of it....What do you think?

cochran63 · 01-26-2005, 06:53 PM

You might have to ask a more knowledgeable big block guy about that. This is my first experience with a big block.

Grande Rojo · 01-26-2005, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by cochran63

You might have to ask a more knowledgeable big block guy about that. This is my first experience with a big block.

Mine should be done soon also!!!!!!!

BTW your motor looks great

cochran63 · 01-26-2005, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Grande Rojo

Mine should be done soon also!!!!!!!

BTW your motor looks great

Are you still using the cam I sold you? Thanks for the compliment

Dirty Dan · 01-27-2005, 03:18 AM

*gn4u2c* · 01-27-2005, 10:31 AM

Get the motor out. have it rebuild while it's out I'm sure the insides are fine the coolant and oil would have kept it from harming anything other than gaskets. If you don't want it ship it out my way I'll buy it.

Grande Rojo · 01-27-2005, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by cochran63

Are you still using the cam I sold you? Thanks for the compliment

nope wanna buy it back?

I got a herbert Hydro roller, little smaller too.
I would have used the comp but I did not go with the 496 stroker
I just had it bored 30 over 461CU

60-66 Nut · 01-27-2005, 01:28 PM

Not to rain on anyone's parade, but a truck 427 is not the same as a car 427. They are big blocks, but they are made especially for heavy-duty use, much like the 366 truck engine. They are very strong engines, designed for low rpm and high-torque. They have smaller intake valves and sodium-filled exaust valves, 4-ring pistons and the very early ones had timing gears instead of a chain. I have also been told that they have a taller deck height than a passenger 427, but I cannot confirm this. If it is true, then passenger intake manifolds would not fit without decking the block. They will fit regular Chevy mounts, just like any other small or big block, and regular flywheels should fit too. I guess somebody could build one up, but it might cost alot more than a car engine.

60-66 Nut

SanitysBane · 01-27-2005, 05:49 PM

you can get intake spacers for the tall deck 427

**Daubs** · 01-28-2005, 12:29 PM

I think I have to agree with 60-66 Nut. From what I understand the truck block is different than the passanger vehicle block. Taller deck.

Not to say that you couldn't put one in your truck...might fit. But you wouldn't be able to swap heads / intake off a car block.

76HighSierra · 01-28-2005, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Daubs

I think I have to agree with 60-66 Nut. From what I understand the truck block is different than the passanger vehicle block. Taller deck.

Not to say that you couldn't put one in your truck...might fit. But you wouldn't be able to swap heads / intake off a car block.

Heads are a bolt-on. Intakes require the spacers.

60-66 Nut · 01-28-2005, 02:56 PM

I figured the heads would fit, but I didn't know anybody made the intake spacers, cool. The truck intakes are 4 bbl, but they are very big and heavy. Then they have a dual-thermostat housing with about a 2 1/2" water outlet and the by-pass outlet is about 1 1/2", so it would be hard to use the passenger water pump. I wonder if they make special pistons, or if you have to use the tall-deck 4 ring pistons. Regular 427 pistons would probably fit(same bore) but they wouldn't reach the top of the deck, unless the truck uses longer rods.

60-66 Nut

crosby · 01-28-2005, 04:44 PM

what about 454s? are they different between car and truck (light duty, up to one ton). Thank you!!

60-66 Nut · 01-28-2005, 08:30 PM

Pretty much. The early car 454's (70-74) were much higher performance than the ones they started putting in the trucks later on. But basically, the truck engines were the same up to one ton. We had about 60 Chevy 454 Doolys from 76' thru 79' models that we used to pull beverage-body gooseneck trailers for nearly 20 years. In that time, we rebuilt or replaced many of the engines, and I think only the early ones were four bolt mains, the later ones were all two bolt. The 79' engines had smaller intake ports.

60-66 Nut

SanitysBane · 01-29-2005, 12:31 AM

our 3/4 ton 77 block what a 2 bolt block, but it had the 7180 heads, so alls good.

jfrank133 · 01-29-2005, 12:44 AM

very nice motor. wish mine looked like that one.

01-24-2005, 09:26 PM	#1
cochran63 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,057	Here are some pics of the 427 in my 63 Here is a pic of the 427 i set down in my 63 yesterday. Attached Images __________________ Youth soon passes away, but immaturity can last a life time. Last edited by cochran63; 01-24-2005 at 10:56 PM.

01-24-2005, 10:06 PM	#2
C-10volvo Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lake Oswego, Oregon Posts: 1,028	NO FAIR!!!! i want one!! __________________ Ken Morgan For fun: 1964 Volvo 122 For slow: 1984 Chevrolet C-10 For everything else: 1997 BMW M3

01-24-2005, 10:06 PM	#3
784X4GUY Did someone say MUD? Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Pullman,WA Posts: 1,089	Nice looking motor you got there...Later Mike __________________ Im in the market guys...so keep ya eyes peeled -------------------- Mini trucks are for guys who cant get it up!

01-24-2005, 10:26 PM	#4
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01-25-2005, 01:27 AM	#5
benscool1 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Williamsfield, IL Posts: 781	Niiice. Not to steal the thread but my family owns a farm and one of our grain trucks burned up this fall, it had a 427 in it. I guess the carb and intake melted together, is that motor worth anything? I haven't seen it first hand but the starter was what started the fire, I assume it didn't do too much damage to the block and heads but haven't seen it yet. My uncle is trying to get rid of it....What do you think? __________________ Ben 84 C10 Silverado 14 Silverado Z71

01-26-2005, 06:53 PM	#6
cochran63 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,057	You might have to ask a more knowledgeable big block guy about that. This is my first experience with a big block. __________________ Youth soon passes away, but immaturity can last a life time.

01-27-2005, 03:18 AM	#9
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01-27-2005, 10:31 AM	#10
gn4u2c Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: southern pa Posts: 698	Get the motor out. have it rebuild while it's out I'm sure the insides are fine the coolant and oil would have kept it from harming anything other than gaskets. If you don't want it ship it out my way I'll buy it.

01-27-2005, 01:28 PM	#12
60-66 Nut Professional Beer Tester Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Louisiana Posts: 453	Not to rain on anyone's parade, but a truck 427 is not the same as a car 427. They are big blocks, but they are made especially for heavy-duty use, much like the 366 truck engine. They are very strong engines, designed for low rpm and high-torque. They have smaller intake valves and sodium-filled exaust valves, 4-ring pistons and the very early ones had timing gears instead of a chain. I have also been told that they have a taller deck height than a passenger 427, but I cannot confirm this. If it is true, then passenger intake manifolds would not fit without decking the block. They will fit regular Chevy mounts, just like any other small or big block, and regular flywheels should fit too. I guess somebody could build one up, but it might cost alot more than a car engine. 60-66 Nut __________________ 60 Ford F100 Custom Cab 61 Apache Short Fleetside 64 C10 Short Stepside 65 C80 409 V8 5spd(X-Firetruck) 83 GMC 350 Olds Diesel 85 GMC Short Bed 86 GMC Short Bed 90 GMC R3500 Crew Cab 92 GMC 1500

01-27-2005, 05:49 PM	#13
SanitysBane Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Lubbock, Texas Posts: 2,121	you can get intake spacers for the tall deck 427 __________________ '96 Nissan Pathfinder '02 Firebird Trans Am. '88 K5 Blazer

01-28-2005, 12:29 PM	#14
Daubs Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Eastern Nebraska Posts: 613	I think I have to agree with 60-66 Nut. From what I understand the truck block is different than the passanger vehicle block. Taller deck. Not to say that you couldn't put one in your truck...might fit. But you wouldn't be able to swap heads / intake off a car block. __________________ '72 Chevy K-20 Crate 350, SM465, 4.10's

01-28-2005, 02:56 PM	#16
60-66 Nut Professional Beer Tester Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Louisiana Posts: 453	I figured the heads would fit, but I didn't know anybody made the intake spacers, cool. The truck intakes are 4 bbl, but they are very big and heavy. Then they have a dual-thermostat housing with about a 2 1/2" water outlet and the by-pass outlet is about 1 1/2", so it would be hard to use the passenger water pump. I wonder if they make special pistons, or if you have to use the tall-deck 4 ring pistons. Regular 427 pistons would probably fit(same bore) but they wouldn't reach the top of the deck, unless the truck uses longer rods. 60-66 Nut __________________ 60 Ford F100 Custom Cab 61 Apache Short Fleetside 64 C10 Short Stepside 65 C80 409 V8 5spd(X-Firetruck) 83 GMC 350 Olds Diesel 85 GMC Short Bed 86 GMC Short Bed 90 GMC R3500 Crew Cab 92 GMC 1500

01-28-2005, 04:44 PM	#17
crosby Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 437	what about 454s? are they different between car and truck (light duty, up to one ton). Thank you!!

01-28-2005, 08:30 PM	#18
60-66 Nut Professional Beer Tester Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Louisiana Posts: 453	Pretty much. The early car 454's (70-74) were much higher performance than the ones they started putting in the trucks later on. But basically, the truck engines were the same up to one ton. We had about 60 Chevy 454 Doolys from 76' thru 79' models that we used to pull beverage-body gooseneck trailers for nearly 20 years. In that time, we rebuilt or replaced many of the engines, and I think only the early ones were four bolt mains, the later ones were all two bolt. The 79' engines had smaller intake ports. 60-66 Nut __________________ 60 Ford F100 Custom Cab 61 Apache Short Fleetside 64 C10 Short Stepside 65 C80 409 V8 5spd(X-Firetruck) 83 GMC 350 Olds Diesel 85 GMC Short Bed 86 GMC Short Bed 90 GMC R3500 Crew Cab 92 GMC 1500

01-29-2005, 12:31 AM	#19
SanitysBane Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Lubbock, Texas Posts: 2,121	our 3/4 ton 77 block what a 2 bolt block, but it had the 7180 heads, so alls good. __________________ '96 Nissan Pathfinder '02 Firebird Trans Am. '88 K5 Blazer



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01-29-2005, 12:44 AM	#20
jfrank133 AUSTIN TX Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 135	very nice motor. wish mine looked like that one.

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