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**tnblazerk5** · 01-31-2005, 11:38 AM

is a short step bed off a 73up box( i know the fenders are diff but i am asking about just the box) the same as 67-72 ? i got 2 of them the other day and dont know where to post them in the 67-72 parts or the 73 up

HuggerCST · 01-31-2005, 12:02 PM

Hey Robb, I've heard that the only differences are the holes in the sides for the fenders, and possibly some of the crossbraces, but otherwise the same from 55 to 87.
Edit: Oh yea, and the steps, of course.

**tnblazerk5** · 01-31-2005, 12:04 PM

hey how ya been ? thats what i tought on the beds i was just makin sure

stllookn · 01-31-2005, 12:27 PM

Just about all the holes are different for the fenders, taillight mounts and the wiring harness grommets. The cross braces are differnt and the rear frame mounts (spot welded to the rear box frame are different). The front box are different and 2.5 inches too short as well as the front stake pockets. I am modifying one now to use on my '67 stepside and am finding differences at just about every turn. The inside dimensions are the same as well as the tailgates, and box fronts. The mods are not bad but still take work.

Here is a picture of the box front that I am modifying. Blue is the '77 and burgandy is the '67. I had to cut the part from an old box to weld to the '77 box. You can see how the stake pocket is too short as well and will need mods.

**Palf70Step** · 01-31-2005, 01:46 PM

Physical dimensions are the same, but as was mentioned a lot of little things to make it work, but it will work.

See this in FAQ

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s....php3?t=123833

It is what I did to an 84 bed to make it work. Stllookn hit on some of it in his picture.

stllookn · 01-31-2005, 02:51 PM

Yeah...what Bill said...LOL! Nice job for an old metal butcher! Bill did you extend your stake pockets to match the original '67? I am debating about that and will "Chip Foose" it if it looks like there is an improvement to be made there.

*Randy70C-10* · 01-31-2005, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by stllookn

Nice job for an old metal butcher!

I represent that

**tnblazerk5** · 01-31-2005, 06:14 PM

i got the bed empted today and it is full of rust so nobody would want it anyway , but i didnt know they were that differant they look the same till ya get to the nittygritty stuff i will have to keep that in mind

aint this board great learn sumthing new here all the time

**Palf70Step** · 01-31-2005, 06:24 PM

stllookn. I thought about it, but no I left the stakes the original 84 pockets. I had original stake pockets, but I was too lazy to remove both sets , then put the originals on the newer bed.

stllookn · 01-31-2005, 06:59 PM

My son brought it to my attention and I guess I will have a look at it after I get the box extensions in place. I am not sure that it makes much difference, asethically. My '67 box had rust holes big enough for your foot to go through but the stake pockets were perfect so I saved them. It was a pain drilling out all the spot welds. I am also trying to figure out how to make the tail lights look really nice and how to lose the chains. Since I can't decide I think I will just put the '77 tail lights on since the mount holes are already there.

tnblazer...did not mean to hijack your thread.

**Palf70Step** · 01-31-2005, 07:04 PM

I trimmed the late model mounts to hold my 70 tail lights. Only a purest and CPNE (

) can really tell the slight difference in mounting. For the reverse lights, I made a little tab to hang from the taillight bracket to mount the backup light. I have not found them yet in all the junk being moved between the old and new shops or I'd show them, but I have not made it to that group of parts piles yet.

RON WOODGEARD · 01-31-2005, 10:14 PM

I wish you guys doing this were not so far away.. I have a decent stepside 68-72 sitting under a tree.. All of the crossbraces, bed strips still in the box, two tailgates.. ETC.ETC. I went to a short fleet.....

I also have the 73 up short step bed, with very nice bedsides.. I thought about the same thing 10 or so years back, I set it on the frame and started seeing the changes that would have to be done.. Changed my mind. my hats off to you guys that are or have done it... Lots of metal work.

TRUCKGUY · 01-31-2005, 10:27 PM

do you want to sell it if so where you at and what price? i have been lookin for one of these beds

**tnblazerk5** · 01-31-2005, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRUCKGUY

do you want to sell it if so where you at and what price? i have been lookin for one of these beds

lol who you talkin to ?????

TRUCKGUY · 01-31-2005, 10:48 PM

either or here is my email anyone that has a 73up short bed for sale please email me with som eprices and stuff thank's

danschevyinky@yahoo.com

edit had to fix email link

**tnblazerk5** · 01-31-2005, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRUCKGUY

either or here is my email anyone that has a 73up short bed for sale please email me with som eprices and stuff thank's

danschevyinky@yahoo.com

edit had to fix email link

you got mail !!!!!!

**tnblazerk5** · 01-31-2005, 11:24 PM

hers sum pics of the one i got here well theres 1 and half there lol i can get more pics if ya want i really need to get sum close up ones so you can see the rust better

01-31-2005, 11:38 AM	#1
tnblazerk5 User #12137 Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: kingsport,upper east tenn Posts: 11,598	short step bed ???s is a short step bed off a 73up box( i know the fenders are diff but i am asking about just the box) the same as 67-72 ? i got 2 of them the other day and dont know where to post them in the 67-72 parts or the 73 up

01-31-2005, 12:02 PM	#2
HuggerCST Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: North Louisiana Posts: 4,501	Hey Robb, I've heard that the only differences are the holes in the sides for the fenders, and possibly some of the crossbraces, but otherwise the same from 55 to 87. Edit: Oh yea, and the steps, of course. __________________ Wynne 70 CST short fleet Hugger orange & white, 350/350, ps, pb, air, tilt, tach/vac/speedwarning, original buckets, AM/FM, oak bed floor, shoulder belts, 3.5"/5.5" drop, 20" American Racing VN425s. Build thread 53 Chevy shortbed 69 Camaro Click here to subscribe Chevy GMC International Truck Club Louisiana Charter Member http://www.louisianaclassictruckclub.com Last edited by HuggerCST; 01-31-2005 at 12:09 PM.

01-31-2005, 12:27 PM	#4
stllookn Saving 1 truck at a time! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kent, WA Posts: 6,465	Just about all the holes are different for the fenders, taillight mounts and the wiring harness grommets. The cross braces are differnt and the rear frame mounts (spot welded to the rear box frame are different). The front box are different and 2.5 inches too short as well as the front stake pockets. I am modifying one now to use on my '67 stepside and am finding differences at just about every turn. The inside dimensions are the same as well as the tailgates, and box fronts. The mods are not bad but still take work. Here is a picture of the box front that I am modifying. Blue is the '77 and burgandy is the '67. I had to cut the part from an old box to weld to the '77 box. You can see how the stake pocket is too short as well and will need mods. Attached Images __________________ '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 400/TH400 '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 468/TH400w/buckets '72 C20 Halfhorn (Longhorn w/o cab and front clip) '69 Flxible Cruiser (look up ugly in the dictionary) Last edited by stllookn; 01-31-2005 at 12:30 PM.

01-31-2005, 01:46 PM	#5
Palf70Step State of Confusion! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gulfport, MS USA Posts: 46,845	Physical dimensions are the same, but as was mentioned a lot of little things to make it work, but it will work. See this in FAQ http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s....php3?t=123833 It is what I did to an 84 bed to make it work. Stllookn hit on some of it in his picture. __________________ Bill 1970 Chevy Custom/10 LWB Fleetside 2010 Toyota Tacoma PreRunner SR5 Double Cab - DD Member of Louisiana Classic Truck Club (LCTC) Bill's Gallery Life isn't tied with a bow, but it's still a gift. Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God!

01-31-2005, 02:51 PM	#6
stllookn Saving 1 truck at a time! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kent, WA Posts: 6,465	Yeah...what Bill said...LOL! Nice job for an old metal butcher! Bill did you extend your stake pockets to match the original '67? I am debating about that and will "Chip Foose" it if it looks like there is an improvement to be made there. __________________ '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 400/TH400 '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 468/TH400w/buckets '72 C20 Halfhorn (Longhorn w/o cab and front clip) '69 Flxible Cruiser (look up ugly in the dictionary)

01-31-2005, 12:04 PM	#3
tnblazerk5 User #12137 Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: kingsport,upper east tenn Posts: 11,598	hey how ya been ? thats what i tought on the beds i was just makin sure

01-31-2005, 06:14 PM	#8
tnblazerk5 User #12137 Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: kingsport,upper east tenn Posts: 11,598	i got the bed empted today and it is full of rust so nobody would want it anyway , but i didnt know they were that differant they look the same till ya get to the nittygritty stuff i will have to keep that in mind aint this board great learn sumthing new here all the time

01-31-2005, 06:24 PM	#9
Palf70Step State of Confusion! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gulfport, MS USA Posts: 46,845	stllookn. I thought about it, but no I left the stakes the original 84 pockets. I had original stake pockets, but I was too lazy to remove both sets , then put the originals on the newer bed. __________________ Bill 1970 Chevy Custom/10 LWB Fleetside 2010 Toyota Tacoma PreRunner SR5 Double Cab - DD Member of Louisiana Classic Truck Club (LCTC) Bill's Gallery Life isn't tied with a bow, but it's still a gift. Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God!

01-31-2005, 06:59 PM	#10
stllookn Saving 1 truck at a time! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kent, WA Posts: 6,465	My son brought it to my attention and I guess I will have a look at it after I get the box extensions in place. I am not sure that it makes much difference, asethically. My '67 box had rust holes big enough for your foot to go through but the stake pockets were perfect so I saved them. It was a pain drilling out all the spot welds. I am also trying to figure out how to make the tail lights look really nice and how to lose the chains. Since I can't decide I think I will just put the '77 tail lights on since the mount holes are already there. tnblazer...did not mean to hijack your thread. __________________ '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 400/TH400 '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 468/TH400w/buckets '72 C20 Halfhorn (Longhorn w/o cab and front clip) '69 Flxible Cruiser (look up ugly in the dictionary)

01-31-2005, 07:04 PM	#11
Palf70Step State of Confusion! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gulfport, MS USA Posts: 46,845	I trimmed the late model mounts to hold my 70 tail lights. Only a purest and CPNE () can really tell the slight difference in mounting. For the reverse lights, I made a little tab to hang from the taillight bracket to mount the backup light. I have not found them yet in all the junk being moved between the old and new shops or I'd show them, but I have not made it to that group of parts piles yet. __________________ Bill 1970 Chevy Custom/10 LWB Fleetside 2010 Toyota Tacoma PreRunner SR5 Double Cab - DD Member of Louisiana Classic Truck Club (LCTC) Bill's Gallery Life isn't tied with a bow, but it's still a gift. Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God! Last edited by Palf70Step; 01-31-2005 at 07:07 PM.

01-31-2005, 10:14 PM	#12
RON WOODGEARD Resident Young Old Dude ! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nevada Posts: 1,948	I wish you guys doing this were not so far away.. I have a decent stepside 68-72 sitting under a tree.. All of the crossbraces, bed strips still in the box, two tailgates.. ETC.ETC. I went to a short fleet..... I also have the 73 up short step bed, with very nice bedsides.. I thought about the same thing 10 or so years back, I set it on the frame and started seeing the changes that would have to be done.. Changed my mind. my hats off to you guys that are or have done it... Lots of metal work.

01-31-2005, 10:27 PM	#13
TRUCKGUY Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Nortonville, Ky Posts: 407	do you want to sell it if so where you at and what price? i have been lookin for one of these beds

01-31-2005, 10:48 PM	#15
TRUCKGUY Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Nortonville, Ky Posts: 407	either or here is my email anyone that has a 73up short bed for sale please email me with som eprices and stuff thank's danschevyinky@yahoo.com edit had to fix email link

01-31-2005, 11:24 PM	#17
tnblazerk5 User #12137 Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: kingsport,upper east tenn Posts: 11,598	hers sum pics of the one i got here well theres 1 and half there lol i can get more pics if ya want i really need to get sum close up ones so you can see the rust better



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