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gotmud · 02-17-2005, 10:44 PM

I searched and searched but I cant seem to locate info that might be posted on how a 3 on the tree for a 67 chevy c10 should be put together.

My truck began having problems shifting into reverse and 1st when it started getting cold. Now I am afraid I will break the shifter because it wont shift. I cant even feel what use to feel like the right place to pull on the shifter to put it in 1st or reverse.

Ive soaked the area with wd40 but to no avail and I really dont want to go to a floor shifter....mainly becasue it was my granddads truck and is still stock.

Any help would be appreciated greatly!
Glenn

71meangreenc10 · 02-17-2005, 10:51 PM

You have to clean out the bottom of the column and lube it it with some synthetic grease, work it and get as much grease in the tube. That should work....

gotmud · 02-17-2005, 11:01 PM

What I see is something that looks like a hot dog bun with the 2 linkages that are attached to rods that go to the trans. Down this "bun" is a small bolt and nut that clamps it around the column and then below the small bolt and bun seems to be a spring that is wrapped around the column. Where would I do the action you suggest in relation to what I am seeing?

I apprecaite your response!
Glenn

sneakysnake · 02-17-2005, 11:11 PM

Have someone move the shifter, and you get under the hood on the column and oil anything that moves.

J Y Dog · 02-17-2005, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gotmud

I searched and searched but I cant seem to locate info that might be posted on how a 3 on the tree for a 67 chevy c10 should be put together.

My truck began having problems shifting into reverse and 1st when it started getting cold. Now I am afraid I will break the shifter because it wont shift. I cant even feel what use to feel like the right place to pull on the shifter to put it in 1st or reverse.

Ive soaked the area with wd40 but to no avail and I really dont want to go to a floor shifter....mainly becasue it was my granddads truck and is still stock.

Any help would be appreciated greatly!
Glenn

Check the L/R shift lever on the trans. And you're right you don't want to cut a hole in the floor and put in a shifter. Why not fix it right it worked for along time it's just worn, not beyond repair if you know how.
J Y

gotmud · 02-17-2005, 11:45 PM

I sprayed a cleaner and then wd40 on it until there is a small river in the driveway

Still nothing so I got a pair of needle nose vice grips to pinch the two shift leavers together so I can get it into reverse however when I remove the vice grips I can not shift it manually.

Should I just keep spraying and greesing?

Glenn

Gary Lee · 02-18-2005, 12:21 AM

I used a can of spray white litium grease in my column where the spring and 2 paws(whatchamacallits) that move the linkage...

It should get it moving without too much of a mess.... I wonder...could it be when its cold the springs in there don't put enuff ooompff to get it to catch?

gotmud · 02-18-2005, 12:48 AM

I dont think its on the tranny end becasue I can move it by hand and when using the vise grips can get the whatchamacallit to engage the reverse\1st leaver. This is so frustrating. 32 degrees and Im working on a darn truck!
Glenn

**passthebuck** · 02-18-2005, 01:23 AM

last winter i actually broke the end off of my shifter handle.... It was kold! I had to put a new shifter handle as a result of the breakage but before that, I hosed tri-flo where the shifter handle goes onto the column (i removed the handle via the wee roll pin that holds it in) & it was 300% better. It's still stiff at -30C but no breakage will happen now.

Putter · 02-18-2005, 10:09 AM

Mine did the same thing. I sprayed lube into the column at the steering wheel and let it run all the way out the bottom. I figured the lube wasn't gonna climb "UPHILL", so....Worked like a charm.

Green Machine · 02-20-2005, 02:20 AM

My grease was gummed up on the top between the shift socket and column. Remove steering wheel and turn signal unit and wires remove shift lever then the socket. Clean and lube with white gease and you are good to go. Thats most likely where the stiffness is at.

PanelDeland · 02-20-2005, 10:23 AM

Hey, gotmud, did you get it to work?I live in Marietta (East Snob to those in the Atlanta area)and have solved this problem before.If you don't get it let me know and maybe I can get by to see if I can help.

JoetheMobster · 02-20-2005, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by passthebuck

last winter i actually broke the end off of my shifter handle.... It was kold! I had to put a new shifter handle as a result of the breakage but before that, I hosed tri-flo where the shifter handle goes onto the column (i removed the handle via the wee roll pin that holds it in) & it was 300% better. It's still stiff at -30C but no breakage will happen now.

Thanks for the suggestion man! It does do a world of difference, to the tune of about 300%

While I was removing the roll pin, It popped out, and rolled to the smallest, darkest hole in the truck (Murphy's other law) but when I eventually found it, I also found a small tag with "G.M. 3985490 - Front Cush. - G.S.P. Canada." on it! Must be the part number off the seat, as it looks authentic from 1971.

Anywho, the shifter works great!

gotmud · 02-20-2005, 02:39 PM

I took the suggestions to remove the shifter knob and then sprayed wd40 into the column...since it wouldnt run uphill.

Put greese in the shifter leavers under the hood near the firewall and now you would be hard pressed to not think it was new.
Thanks for all the input!

02-17-2005, 10:44 PM	#1
gotmud Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Cumming, Ga Posts: 234	3 on tree issue I searched and searched but I cant seem to locate info that might be posted on how a 3 on the tree for a 67 chevy c10 should be put together. My truck began having problems shifting into reverse and 1st when it started getting cold. Now I am afraid I will break the shifter because it wont shift. I cant even feel what use to feel like the right place to pull on the shifter to put it in 1st or reverse. Ive soaked the area with wd40 but to no avail and I really dont want to go to a floor shifter....mainly becasue it was my granddads truck and is still stock. Any help would be appreciated greatly! Glenn __________________ Glenn Cumming, Ga (68 C/10 Fleetside LWB 307 (64 C/10 Fleetside Shorty Custom 350, with 73 donor parts aplenty) (2001 Porsche Boxster S - 168 MPH of fun) (2005 Chevy Avalanche Z71 1500)

02-17-2005, 10:51 PM	#2
71meangreenc10 Its a Truck Thing...... Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sierra Vista, Arizona Posts: 3,179	You have to clean out the bottom of the column and lube it it with some synthetic grease, work it and get as much grease in the tube. That should work.... __________________ 71 C10 283/3SPD Full Resto 71 GMC 1500 Sierra Grande http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=518599 70 C10 Suburban Former military GSA truck. 72 Chevy Blazer 4X4, Sloppy Jo, Mountain Climber. Wife says no more trucks. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=707378 72 GMC 1 Ton Motor Home, wife said no more trucks until she saw this one. Gen 3 6.0/4L80E 4.10 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=761110 68 GMC Suburban was 3/4 ton, now 1/2.Wife shook her head 71 C30 Wrecker 71 C20 Scott-Bilt As weird as it gets..BB Cheyenne AC Truck 68 GMC Long Stepside. They keep following me home 69 C30 Former Motor Home, Flat Bed time 70 G20 Red-E-Kamp Conversion "I'm your Boogy Van"

02-17-2005, 11:01 PM	#3
gotmud Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Cumming, Ga Posts: 234	What I see is something that looks like a hot dog bun with the 2 linkages that are attached to rods that go to the trans. Down this "bun" is a small bolt and nut that clamps it around the column and then below the small bolt and bun seems to be a spring that is wrapped around the column. Where would I do the action you suggest in relation to what I am seeing? I apprecaite your response! Glenn __________________ Glenn Cumming, Ga (68 C/10 Fleetside LWB 307 (64 C/10 Fleetside Shorty Custom 350, with 73 donor parts aplenty) (2001 Porsche Boxster S - 168 MPH of fun) (2005 Chevy Avalanche Z71 1500)

02-17-2005, 11:45 PM	#6
gotmud Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Cumming, Ga Posts: 234	I sprayed a cleaner and then wd40 on it until there is a small river in the driveway Still nothing so I got a pair of needle nose vice grips to pinch the two shift leavers together so I can get it into reverse however when I remove the vice grips I can not shift it manually. Should I just keep spraying and greesing? Glenn __________________ Glenn Cumming, Ga (68 C/10 Fleetside LWB 307 (64 C/10 Fleetside Shorty Custom 350, with 73 donor parts aplenty) (2001 Porsche Boxster S - 168 MPH of fun) (2005 Chevy Avalanche Z71 1500)

02-18-2005, 12:21 AM	#7
Gary Lee fixer of 72 GMC LWB Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newnan GA Posts: 111	what about on the tranny end? I used a can of spray white litium grease in my column where the spring and 2 paws(whatchamacallits) that move the linkage... It should get it moving without too much of a mess.... I wonder...could it be when its cold the springs in there don't put enuff ooompff to get it to catch? Last edited by Gary Lee; 02-18-2005 at 12:37 AM. Reason: I'm am id10T

02-17-2005, 11:11 PM	#4
sneakysnake It's a catastrophic success. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 2,077	Have someone move the shifter, and you get under the hood on the column and oil anything that moves.

02-18-2005, 12:48 AM	#8
gotmud Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Cumming, Ga Posts: 234	I dont think its on the tranny end becasue I can move it by hand and when using the vise grips can get the whatchamacallit to engage the reverse\1st leaver. This is so frustrating. 32 degrees and Im working on a darn truck! Glenn __________________ Glenn Cumming, Ga (68 C/10 Fleetside LWB 307 (64 C/10 Fleetside Shorty Custom 350, with 73 donor parts aplenty) (2001 Porsche Boxster S - 168 MPH of fun) (2005 Chevy Avalanche Z71 1500)

02-18-2005, 01:23 AM	#9
passthebuck Sisyphus was my mentor! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Carleton Place, Ontario CANADA Posts: 984	last winter i actually broke the end off of my shifter handle.... It was kold! I had to put a new shifter handle as a result of the breakage but before that, I hosed tri-flo where the shifter handle goes onto the column (i removed the handle via the wee roll pin that holds it in) & it was 300% better. It's still stiff at -30C but no breakage will happen now. __________________ passthebuck #5642 -TWO 1967 GMC 910's. One with L6/3-on-the tree and the other with 355 w/435hp & a 700r4. -a 2013 Honda Civic as my "sensible" car

02-18-2005, 10:09 AM	#10
Putter More Cowbell.... Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Puckett, MS Posts: 3,569	Mine did the same thing. I sprayed lube into the column at the steering wheel and let it run all the way out the bottom. I figured the lube wasn't gonna climb "UPHILL", so....Worked like a charm. __________________ *There once was a member from Puckett.....Who ( fill in the blank blank blank* ) bucket**

02-20-2005, 02:20 AM	#11
Green Machine Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Estherville, Iowa Posts: 3,371	My grease was gummed up on the top between the shift socket and column. Remove steering wheel and turn signal unit and wires remove shift lever then the socket. Clean and lube with white gease and you are good to go. Thats most likely where the stiffness is at.

02-20-2005, 10:23 AM	#12
PanelDeland I am a Referee of life. Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Greensboro N.C. Posts: 13,992	Hey, gotmud, did you get it to work?I live in Marietta (East Snob to those in the Atlanta area)and have solved this problem before.If you don't get it let me know and maybe I can get by to see if I can help. __________________ The 47-present Chevrolet and GMC Truck Message Board Network,it's owners,moderators,members,and associates of any type should not be held responsible for my opinion. You can't fix stupid,not even with duct tape. "My appearance is due to the fact that "GOD" does punish you for having too much fun!" Barrett-Jackson has perfected alchemy,they make rust into gold! "You can lead a horse to water but you can't saddle a duck" "Cleverly disguised as a 'Responsible Adult' "Sometimes your Knight in shining armor is just a retard in tinfoil"

02-20-2005, 02:39 PM	#14
gotmud Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Cumming, Ga Posts: 234	I took the suggestions to remove the shifter knob and then sprayed wd40 into the column...since it wouldnt run uphill. Put greese in the shifter leavers under the hood near the firewall and now you would be hard pressed to not think it was new. Thanks for all the input! __________________ Glenn Cumming, Ga (68 C/10 Fleetside LWB 307 (64 C/10 Fleetside Shorty Custom 350, with 73 donor parts aplenty) (2001 Porsche Boxster S - 168 MPH of fun) (2005 Chevy Avalanche Z71 1500)



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