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muddpile · 02-28-2005, 12:32 PM

I recently cleaned up my door panels and saved myself about 150 bucks by not buying new ones. I was thinking about putting the money I saved towards a stock headliner with chrome trim. What truck package originally came with a headliner? Mine has no evidence of there ever being one up there, but I kind of like the look of them and figure it would be worth doing. Also, how much is involved in installing one and is it worth it? Is the vinyl mounted to some sort of cardboard or is it a plastic? What about the chrome, is it metal or plastic? Thanks!

70 longbed · 02-28-2005, 12:45 PM

I have a 70 CST with the headliner. Mounted to cardboard and the trim is metal.

JimKshortstep4x4 · 02-28-2005, 12:50 PM

Headliners are nice in that they cut down on the noise inside the cab. The cab is punched in the roof on the trucks that came with the headliners so as to snap the trim in place. You can still glue the headliner in place and screw the trim to the cab with short screws.

Jim

Mudder · 02-28-2005, 12:53 PM

The trim is plastic. The original liners where attached with clips in the plastic trim into little retangular slots in the roof. I took the clips off of my new trim and used very short screws. (maybe like 3/16 or so). Very short. Bought a used headliner from Manes in KC/ painted it then glued it along with the screws. No problems.

**CPNE** · 02-28-2005, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by muddpile

...What truck package originally came with a headliner? ...

CST (69/70); Cheyenne/Cheyenne Super (71/72)

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Originally Posted by muddpile

...Also, how much is involved in installing one and is it worth it? ...

Headliner trim has clips and screws to fasten it. The cab roof has elongated holes to accomodate these clips. Big PITA to retrofit a non-headline cab. Your best option is to forego the clips (break them off) and use the screws only. The headliner itself is glued to the roof to prevent sagging. The trim does little to hold the headliner in place, it's cosmetic.

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Originally Posted by muddpile

... Is the vinyl mounted to some sort of cardboard or is it a plastic? What about the chrome, is it metal or plastic? Thanks!

Cardboard-like material as backing, at least OE is. The trim I've seen has always been chrome-painted plastic (OE or aftermarket). These have been 71/72 trucks, so maybe 69/70 used steel.

70 longbed · 02-28-2005, 02:00 PM

Maybe I need to look at mine again, and also not respond until I am sure. I probably confused him as much as I am now.

Longhorn Man · 02-28-2005, 06:41 PM

the 69/70 was plastic also.
make sure you use short screws...the guy who used to own my old SWB drilled screws right up through the roof.
Not cool.

Pilgrim · 02-28-2005, 07:44 PM

My headliner has no trim, looks better.

sdkid · 02-28-2005, 07:46 PM

My 70 had a headliner. The trim was plastic.

incoma · 02-28-2005, 09:07 PM

You guys are right on about the trim being a PITA. When I was tearing out my interior that plastic trim had to be ripped out. It broke into many many little pieces. I have to say that that trim, my park brake cable and 2 bolts were the only casualties in the tear down too. I'm considering removing the tangs on the trim when I reinstall. That way if I ever need to remove the headliner, it doesn't mean replacing the trim!!

gonebad2 · 02-28-2005, 09:43 PM

My upholstery guy covered my stock headliner in leather, He sewed a nice pattern in it. It's quite a bit heavier than a stock vinyl headliner. I covered the back of the headliner with liquid nails and propped it up very tightly with boards to let it dry overnight. I did'nt use the plastic trim and the ceiling wasn't punched with slots for the trim. I personally think it looks better without the trim.

muddpile · 03-01-2005, 01:32 AM

My truck is definitely not an original headliner truck. There are no slotted holes or any evidence of there ever being adhesive up there (except for an old bumper sticker that is stuck to the ceiling that reads "Hire the morally handicapped". Sounds like the headliner with no trim is the way to go. It's nice to know that works, as I'm not particularly fond of the trim myself either. Liquid nails and a couple pieces of wood to prop it up sounds like a good idea. Looks like this is another mod to add to the list. Thanks guys!

Bowtiefreak · 03-01-2005, 09:13 AM

I did the same thing Gonebad did except I covered mine in matchng velour(sp) of my seats and door panels. Then to add a little more sound deadening, I used some of the B-Qiet sound deadening material in between the roof and the headliner. Should add some quietness to the cab. Looks great.

02-28-2005, 12:32 PM	#1
muddpile Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 1,371	Stock Headliner Questions I recently cleaned up my door panels and saved myself about 150 bucks by not buying new ones. I was thinking about putting the money I saved towards a stock headliner with chrome trim. What truck package originally came with a headliner? Mine has no evidence of there ever being one up there, but I kind of like the look of them and figure it would be worth doing. Also, how much is involved in installing one and is it worth it? Is the vinyl mounted to some sort of cardboard or is it a plastic? What about the chrome, is it metal or plastic? Thanks! __________________ 1964 Chevy Short Fleet: Tornado 1972 Chevy C10: Fast Orange Secondaries Wide Open

02-28-2005, 12:45 PM	#2
70 longbed Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sierra Vista, AZ Posts: 489	I have a 70 CST with the headliner. Mounted to cardboard and the trim is metal. __________________ Keith 70 CST longbed in progress. Hoping to get it back on the road soon.

02-28-2005, 02:00 PM	#6
70 longbed Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sierra Vista, AZ Posts: 489	Maybe I need to look at mine again, and also not respond until I am sure. I probably confused him as much as I am now. __________________ Keith 70 CST longbed in progress. Hoping to get it back on the road soon.

02-28-2005, 07:44 PM	#8
Pilgrim Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Crescent City, FL Posts: 492	My headliner has no trim, looks better. __________________ Bob 68 C20 Camper Special

02-28-2005, 09:43 PM	#11
gonebad2 Merciless Butcher Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: CC Nevada Posts: 1,447	My upholstery guy covered my stock headliner in leather, He sewed a nice pattern in it. It's quite a bit heavier than a stock vinyl headliner. I covered the back of the headliner with liquid nails and propped it up very tightly with boards to let it dry overnight. I did'nt use the plastic trim and the ceiling wasn't punched with slots for the trim. I personally think it looks better without the trim. __________________ Your Bought And Sold....I Got Your Soul!

02-28-2005, 12:50 PM	#3
JimKshortstep4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Muskegon,MI,USA Posts: 6,026	Headliners are nice in that they cut down on the noise inside the cab. The cab is punched in the roof on the trucks that came with the headliners so as to snap the trim in place. You can still glue the headliner in place and screw the trim to the cab with short screws. Jim

02-28-2005, 12:53 PM	#4
Mudder Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: East Central, MO Posts: 11,336	The trim is plastic. The original liners where attached with clips in the plastic trim into little retangular slots in the roof. I took the clips off of my new trim and used very short screws. (maybe like 3/16 or so). Very short. Bought a used headliner from Manes in KC/ painted it then glued it along with the screws. No problems.

02-28-2005, 06:41 PM	#7
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	the 69/70 was plastic also. make sure you use short screws...the guy who used to own my old SWB drilled screws right up through the roof. Not cool.

02-28-2005, 07:46 PM	#9
sdkid Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Pierre SD Posts: 1,533	My 70 had a headliner. The trim was plastic.

02-28-2005, 09:07 PM	#10
incoma Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 865	You guys are right on about the trim being a PITA. When I was tearing out my interior that plastic trim had to be ripped out. It broke into many many little pieces. I have to say that that trim, my park brake cable and 2 bolts were the only casualties in the tear down too. I'm considering removing the tangs on the trim when I reinstall. That way if I ever need to remove the headliner, it doesn't mean replacing the trim!!

03-01-2005, 01:32 AM	#12
muddpile Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 1,371	My truck is definitely not an original headliner truck. There are no slotted holes or any evidence of there ever being adhesive up there (except for an old bumper sticker that is stuck to the ceiling that reads "Hire the morally handicapped". Sounds like the headliner with no trim is the way to go. It's nice to know that works, as I'm not particularly fond of the trim myself either. Liquid nails and a couple pieces of wood to prop it up sounds like a good idea. Looks like this is another mod to add to the list. Thanks guys! __________________ 1964 Chevy Short Fleet: Tornado 1972 Chevy C10: Fast Orange Secondaries Wide Open

03-01-2005, 09:13 AM	#13
Bowtiefreak Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: LeRoy, Mich. Posts: 854	I did the same thing Gonebad did except I covered mine in matchng velour(sp) of my seats and door panels. Then to add a little more sound deadening, I used some of the B-Qiet sound deadening material in between the roof and the headliner. Should add some quietness to the cab. Looks great. __________________ 1968 Chevy C10 Short Fleetside/Wood floor ECE 4-6 Drop / 406 Small Block 1971 Chevelle 427 Big Block



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