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cysko9 · 03-01-2005, 01:16 AM

how would a rear swaybar work with bags in the back and a super track bar. i've searched around a bit on the forum and havn' really found much...

could someone point me in the right direction or just give me some info on this...
basicly im just woried that i will lose vertical travel with it...

thanks

bagged72blaz · 03-01-2005, 09:41 AM

I have Super Trak bar, and rear sway bar c-notch and bags. 7" of lift with firestone bags.

TOYOTA61384 · 03-01-2005, 10:08 AM

If properly set up, a sway bar shouldn't limit your travel, the only thing you wont be able to do is throw the truck side to side, (I guess you could, but it would be limited by the sway bar) which it doesn't sonud like you are interested in? Probably more performance oriented.

bagged72blaz · 03-01-2005, 10:35 AM

I've never had my rear sway off, but I go side to side with mine, it may limit it though. I'll take pics. It's snowing like a bad dog outside, might go snow plow!

cysko9 · 03-01-2005, 12:06 PM

Interesting... You were correct in assuming that I'm not interested in side to side travel. I want the rear end level and able to move up and down. so then i might just pick one of those up then... ECE has one i know that looks farily simple to set up... any recomendations on products? Also, i probably will put a fuel cell in the back inbetween the frames... would the sway bar, or its componets mess with that?

7T7 · 03-01-2005, 02:50 PM

How about going this route?
I's from TCI. Very easy install.

Shev · 03-01-2005, 05:04 PM

That's purty Frank...

smokekiki · 03-01-2005, 05:08 PM

Here is a thread about using a camaro sway bar http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...ht=camaro+sway

cysko9 · 03-02-2005, 01:16 AM

where did you say you go that setup from 7t7? it might of been easy to install, but it sure looks complex to me... anyway, i'll take a look at it...

im still not sold on the rear swaybar working with bags... heres what im thinking. When i want to lower the frame, the track bar pushes the axel to the side a little bit. Well, if the swaybar, is used to prevent movement in the rear, doesn't it act against the track bar and prevent me from lowering? maybe im missing something here.... does anyone have a technical reason for why it DOES work. my mechanical engineer mind woudl appreciate it.

Also, that camaro setup looks pretty good too.

bagged72blaz · 03-02-2005, 07:21 PM

Geometericly it's not perfect. But it works. The sway bar gives a bit due to bushings. I'll try to get a good picture of mine. It's a basic common set-up.

cysko9 · 03-03-2005, 08:54 PM

thanks...
so its ok to rely on the bushings to give you travel...??? i guess i should wait to see the pics before i cast judgement haha. thx for the help.

neonlarry · 03-03-2005, 10:44 PM

If you have a super track bar and it is set up right you should have very little side to side movement over your entire airbag range. Beside a sway bar does not prevent side to side movement thats not what it is supposed to do. It is made to effectivley increase sping rate in a corner while giving a nice ride while in a straight line.

CHEVIBUBBA · 03-06-2005, 11:32 PM

neon larry is correct.a swaybar or anti-swaybar, when all is setup correctly should move relatively freely when both wheels on the axle move up & down.just as it does on any auto/truck.it only offers resistance to movement when one wheel goes up while the other goes down.like when you corner.
the track bars' sole purpose in life is to maintain the rear axle in a centered position relative to the chassis without affecting other suspension functions.
a swaybar & track bar can easily co-exist.

cysko9 · 03-07-2005, 11:43 AM

alright... well i'll look into one then.

cysko9 · 03-16-2005, 12:30 AM

since i started this post, im going to steer it in a bit of a diff direction.... steer.. yah its a punn. :-)

I have a coolride with tube A arms up front... what front sway bar will work with that?

cysko9 · 03-17-2005, 08:23 PM

hm.... perhaps i will just post that question in a new thread... maybe it will get a bit more traffic or something...

Slammed67 · 03-18-2005, 03:24 PM

I don't think you'll even need a rear sway bar as long as you have a 4-way system and install a front bar. All your weight is up front anyway (cab and engine/trans). A rear bar might help out on a blazer, but I think you'l be okay without a rear bar on a truck. Well, unless you add a salt/sand spreader on the back

cysko9 · 03-19-2005, 11:56 AM

any thoughts on the front bar with the tube A arms?

SCOTI · 03-19-2005, 03:27 PM

The tubular arms from AirRide require the use of an aftermarket bar that uses 'end-links' instead of factory truck bushings that capture the bar end.

End link mounted sway-bars are more common to cars & newer trucks. I would call AirRide for their recommendation or check out Helwig or Addco.

gbkwork · 03-29-2005, 09:23 PM

I just purchased the StrongArm set-up from ART for my '72. They recommend a PST front sway-bar for a '72 that DID NOT have a stock sway bar. Called PST last week and ordered it. You might want to confirm with the order taker that the one you order has end links.

By the way, I have 1" ECE front springs and an ECE sway bar up for sale.

03-01-2005, 01:16 AM	#1
cysko9 MI '69 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 314	Rear swaybar with bags? how would a rear swaybar work with bags in the back and a super track bar. i've searched around a bit on the forum and havn' really found much... could someone point me in the right direction or just give me some info on this... basicly im just woried that i will lose vertical travel with it... thanks __________________ 1967 Chevy (Project Frankenstein) 1973 K5 Blazer

03-01-2005, 09:41 AM	#2
bagged72blaz Got L.E.D.s Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Craig Co. Posts: 195	I have Super Trak bar, and rear sway bar c-notch and bags. 7" of lift with firestone bags. __________________ Bagged 1972 2wd Blazer http://www.earlyclassic.com/home.aspx

03-01-2005, 10:35 AM	#4
bagged72blaz Got L.E.D.s Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Craig Co. Posts: 195	I've never had my rear sway off, but I go side to side with mine, it may limit it though. I'll take pics. It's snowing like a bad dog outside, might go snow plow! __________________ Bagged 1972 2wd Blazer http://www.earlyclassic.com/home.aspx

03-01-2005, 12:06 PM	#5
cysko9 MI '69 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 314	Interesting... You were correct in assuming that I'm not interested in side to side travel. I want the rear end level and able to move up and down. so then i might just pick one of those up then... ECE has one i know that looks farily simple to set up... any recomendations on products? Also, i probably will put a fuel cell in the back inbetween the frames... would the sway bar, or its componets mess with that? __________________ 1967 Chevy (Project Frankenstein) 1973 K5 Blazer

03-01-2005, 02:50 PM	#6
7T7 Regular guy Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Round Rock TX Posts: 518	How about going this route? I's from TCI. Very easy install. Attached Images __________________ 'Frank' 77 Silverado 18 & 20 American CL205s Edelbrock MPFI, 700r4, Baer Brakes 9" F@rd rear, Vintage air, Bags etc etc..

03-01-2005, 10:08 AM	#3
TOYOTA61384 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Fort Collins CO Posts: 71	If properly set up, a sway bar shouldn't limit your travel, the only thing you wont be able to do is throw the truck side to side, (I guess you could, but it would be limited by the sway bar) which it doesn't sonud like you are interested in? Probably more performance oriented.

03-01-2005, 05:04 PM	#7
Shev Head Peon Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Imlay City MI Posts: 296	That's purty Frank... __________________ '72 Suburban, factory tilt, tach, front & rear AC, front & rear disc brakes, 383/700-R4

03-01-2005, 05:08 PM	#8
smokekiki Mike Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: west chester pa Posts: 2,474	Here is a thread about using a camaro sway bar http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...ht=camaro+sway __________________ 70'c/10, 71 suburban4x4 402bb, 72suburban 4/6 drop, 72k/5 4x4 blazer 4" lift 35 tires

03-02-2005, 01:16 AM	#9
cysko9 MI '69 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 314	where did you say you go that setup from 7t7? it might of been easy to install, but it sure looks complex to me... anyway, i'll take a look at it... im still not sold on the rear swaybar working with bags... heres what im thinking. When i want to lower the frame, the track bar pushes the axel to the side a little bit. Well, if the swaybar, is used to prevent movement in the rear, doesn't it act against the track bar and prevent me from lowering? maybe im missing something here.... does anyone have a technical reason for why it DOES work. my mechanical engineer mind woudl appreciate it. Also, that camaro setup looks pretty good too. __________________ 1967 Chevy (Project Frankenstein) 1973 K5 Blazer

03-02-2005, 07:21 PM	#10
bagged72blaz Got L.E.D.s Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Craig Co. Posts: 195	Geometericly it's not perfect. But it works. The sway bar gives a bit due to bushings. I'll try to get a good picture of mine. It's a basic common set-up. __________________ Bagged 1972 2wd Blazer http://www.earlyclassic.com/home.aspx

03-03-2005, 08:54 PM	#11
cysko9 MI '69 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 314	thanks... so its ok to rely on the bushings to give you travel...??? i guess i should wait to see the pics before i cast judgement haha. thx for the help. __________________ 1967 Chevy (Project Frankenstein) 1973 K5 Blazer

03-03-2005, 10:44 PM	#12
neonlarry Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Vacaville, CA Posts: 2,746	If you have a super track bar and it is set up right you should have very little side to side movement over your entire airbag range. Beside a sway bar does not prevent side to side movement thats not what it is supposed to do. It is made to effectivley increase sping rate in a corner while giving a nice ride while in a straight line. __________________ 70 C/10 Light Red 350/TH350, HEI, Duals w/40 series Flows, 91 seat, LED taillights 99 Pontiac S/C GTP, SLP Ram Air hood, GMPP Konis & springs 95 Neon ACR, MP PCM, AFX UDP, 3.0 CAI

03-06-2005, 11:32 PM	#13
CHEVIBUBBA got boost? Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 123	right! neon larry is correct.a swaybar or anti-swaybar, when all is setup correctly should move relatively freely when both wheels on the axle move up & down.just as it does on any auto/truck.it only offers resistance to movement when one wheel goes up while the other goes down.like when you corner. the track bars' sole purpose in life is to maintain the rear axle in a centered position relative to the chassis without affecting other suspension functions. a swaybar & track bar can easily co-exist.

03-07-2005, 11:43 AM	#14
cysko9 MI '69 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 314	alright... well i'll look into one then. __________________ 1967 Chevy (Project Frankenstein) 1973 K5 Blazer

03-16-2005, 12:30 AM	#15
cysko9 MI '69 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 314	since i started this post, im going to steer it in a bit of a diff direction.... steer.. yah its a punn. :-) I have a coolride with tube A arms up front... what front sway bar will work with that? __________________ 1967 Chevy (Project Frankenstein) 1973 K5 Blazer



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03-17-2005, 08:23 PM	#16
cysko9 MI '69 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 314	hm.... perhaps i will just post that question in a new thread... maybe it will get a bit more traffic or something... __________________ 1967 Chevy (Project Frankenstein) 1973 K5 Blazer

03-18-2005, 03:24 PM	#17
Slammed67 Progress = 0% Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 2,108	I don't think you'll even need a rear sway bar as long as you have a 4-way system and install a front bar. All your weight is up front anyway (cab and engine/trans). A rear bar might help out on a blazer, but I think you'l be okay without a rear bar on a truck. Well, unless you add a salt/sand spreader on the back __________________ Jason - '67 GMC swb \| '57 Bel-Air 4dr hardtop \| '56 210 4dr Wagon \| 2000 GMC Sierra

03-19-2005, 11:56 AM	#18
cysko9 MI '69 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 314	any thoughts on the front bar with the tube A arms? __________________ 1967 Chevy (Project Frankenstein) 1973 K5 Blazer

03-19-2005, 03:27 PM	#19
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 21,943	The tubular arms from AirRide require the use of an aftermarket bar that uses 'end-links' instead of factory truck bushings that capture the bar end. End link mounted sway-bars are more common to cars & newer trucks. I would call AirRide for their recommendation or check out Helwig or Addco. __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

03-29-2005, 09:23 PM	#20
gbkwork Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Chico, CA Posts: 39	Sway bar w/ ART's control arms I just purchased the StrongArm set-up from ART for my '72. They recommend a PST front sway-bar for a '72 that DID NOT have a stock sway bar. Called PST last week and ordered it. You might want to confirm with the order taker that the one you order has end links. By the way, I have 1" ECE front springs and an ECE sway bar up for sale. __________________ '72 Custom LWB 383 ci, Lunati 213 / 219 cam (60101L), 2.02/1.6 heads, Crane roller rockers, HPC coated ramhorns, FIRST TPI, '90 Corvette ECM, , Built 700R4, 3.73 Eaton Posi 12-bolt, Magnaflow dual exhaust, PW, Keyless DL, ECE Hidden Hitch, New chrome all around, 17" Torq Thrust II's, 255/50 & 275/50 Nittos, ART airbags, Rick's custom tank w/ custom in-bed filler, '02 Silverado seats, Rod Doors headliner / A-pillar covers and door panels.

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