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Longhorn Man · 03-07-2005, 09:23 PM

So here I am, runnin her down the freeway takin my baby sister to work, and then headin to the shop. Buzzin down the freeway, still smiling and lovin life.
First...smelled a little smoke.
then, engine started to labor...bogged down a bit.
That's about when I looked at the oil guage....5psi at 4000 RPM.

It started knocking as I pulled over.

Checked the oil...it's full. Looked for leaks...none to be found.

New oil pump caosts about 122 b ucks (again, with my discount)...rebuild kit is 26 bucks, but it won't be in untill wed or thurs.

I guess I won't know untill then if it is junk or not.

huge bummer. I'm going to go cry some more.

cableguy0 · 03-07-2005, 09:27 PM

ya might as well order up some bearings for that thing too at least to just have em there. that sucks good luck getting it straight hopefully it didnt do no damage

Dean23 · 03-07-2005, 09:29 PM

That really sucks. Hope theres no internal damage to it.

enough to make a grown man cry

dwaite72lnghrn · 03-07-2005, 09:36 PM

Andy Not what I wanted to hear. 1 good thing is the old caddy engine could take low pressure for a little while high chrome.
It wasn't burning any was it?
No silver in the oil was a good sign.
Hopefully it will just be the pump. Chin up all the hard work has been done.

67cst · 03-07-2005, 09:41 PM

ill cross my fingers for ya andy, hope all works out

ezernut9mm · 03-07-2005, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Longhorn Man

That's about when I looked at the oil guage....5psi at 4000 RPM.

huge bummer. I'm going to go cry some more.

4000rpm? wow. well, hopefully evrything is alright internally...

*dtlilly* · 03-07-2005, 09:42 PM

Geese Andy, when it rains it pours for some people. What was your water temp? Did you have water boiling in the system (your overflow tank) after pulling over and shutting down? These big engines can take some abuse and keep going, at least you were within the city and not on a road trip.

Longhorn Man · 03-07-2005, 09:42 PM

the oil does look OK...a little darker than what it was yesterday...but no glitter.
I'll be removin the oil filter and cutting it open...probably tomorow morning.
I guess i gotta call the insurance company and have the trucvk dropped and put the town car back on.

*screamin_c102* · 03-07-2005, 09:44 PM

Crossin my fingers for ya

Longhorn Man · 03-07-2005, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dtlilly

Geese Andy, when it rains it pours for some people. What was your water temp? Did you have water boiling in the system (your overflow tank) after pulling over and shutting down? These big engines can take some abuse and keep going, at least you were within the city and not on a road trip.

Odd enough, the (mechanical) temp guage crapped out on me. (!!??) The heat comin out the defroster vent was pretty hot though, so I say yeah, it was pretty warm, and my puke tank was full instead of 1/3 full, but not boiling. Glad my dad has aaa...i guess I oughta get it now that I don't have some one yellin that we don't need it and we'd never use it and

LUV2XCLR8 · 03-07-2005, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 67cst

ill cross my fingers for ya andy, hope all works out

Gary Lee · 03-07-2005, 10:03 PM

Yikes, gives one a lil twinge down their in the bottom of the gut... Hope fer the best longhorn

*dtlilly* · 03-07-2005, 10:06 PM

Definately chech the fluids for mixing (white sludge on dip stick or in radiator). You may have just run her a bit warm. Since she was losing power, I'd go ahead and pull a rod cap off and check the berrings while you have the cover off.

Robert1970C20rstbukt · 03-07-2005, 10:13 PM

Damn that sucks, hope you get er fixed.

Longhorn Man · 03-07-2005, 10:21 PM

no water in the oil, that is certian.

In all reality, i wouldn't know what to look for on the bearing anyways...onless it is painfully obviouse.
Since the oil pump is external, I'm just going to remove,rebuild, and install it and see if the engine made it through OK.
i wouldn't have time to pull the engine untill next sautrday anywasy.

70c10 · 03-07-2005, 10:29 PM

Andy, sorry to hear that man. I would check the valve train just to rule that area out.

krue · 03-07-2005, 10:30 PM

Good luck with it. Hope it's not a bearing.

**Canadian694x4** · 03-07-2005, 10:34 PM

Oh man, that sux! I hope when ya get the oil pump fixed and run 'er she checks out alright. I'll be crossin' my finger's for ya dude.

71swb4x4 · 03-07-2005, 10:34 PM

Good luck, I hope it isn't too bad.

bagged91 · 03-07-2005, 10:38 PM

You will definitely be able to tell if a bearing is worn by looking at it. Look at the surface. If you see any scoring, copper or other wear, then you need to put some bearings in... If you need to do the rods/mains, I would suggest checking the crank for any damage. If there is some damage, I am sure you could polish it out with some crocus & emery cloth.....

Man, that does suck though.... Wishin' the best...

L8R - Joe

**VetteVet** · 03-07-2005, 10:44 PM

Gawd Longhorn that bites. I heard that sound before and it sounds like SH!!tteeett.
Check the gear on the dizzy and make sure it didn't dissolve on you. She probably would've quit instantly on you if that was it,but you never know.
Good Luck anyhow
VetteVet--old and know how big those crocodile tears can be

**68 Stepside** · 03-07-2005, 10:52 PM

4k on the interstate? GD man....... No other comments...good luck

Longhorn Man · 03-07-2005, 11:01 PM

yeah TJ, I was in a hurry. That should be around 80 or so...I was still getting passed up left and right...literally.

70 shorty · 03-07-2005, 11:37 PM

Ok, Andy, I'm predicting it's just a pump. You seem to attract the bad luck, so I'm going to say this time you're owed one.

Longhorn Man · 03-07-2005, 11:46 PM

Naaa, I don't attract bad luck, I have good luck more than anything.
This one is a total bummer though.

You shoulda heard the lady when i called the insurance company up...she said "Didn't I talk to you yesterday...when you dropped the Town Car? You know you can't just swap coverage from vahicle to vehicle just so you can drive them both but pay insurance for one.
When I explained what happend she laughed and said sorry.

03-07-2005, 09:23 PM	#1
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	The Longhorn may be dead...this sucks. So here I am, runnin her down the freeway takin my baby sister to work, and then headin to the shop. Buzzin down the freeway, still smiling and lovin life. First...smelled a little smoke. then, engine started to labor...bogged down a bit. That's about when I looked at the oil guage....5psi at 4000 RPM. It started knocking as I pulled over. Checked the oil...it's full. Looked for leaks...none to be found. New oil pump caosts about 122 b ucks (again, with my discount)...rebuild kit is 26 bucks, but it won't be in untill wed or thurs. I guess I won't know untill then if it is junk or not. huge bummer. I'm going to go cry some more.

03-07-2005, 09:27 PM	#2
cableguy0 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Delta,Pa Posts: 14,950	ya might as well order up some bearings for that thing too at least to just have em there. that sucks good luck getting it straight hopefully it didnt do no damage __________________ Owner of North Point Car Care in Dundalk Md. We specialize in custom exhaust on both modern and classic vehicles. We are a full service auto shop from classics to modern vehicles. Feel free to contact me with questions. I will give a 10% discount to any board member.

03-07-2005, 09:29 PM	#3
Dean23 68cst_ss490 Join Date: May 2001 Location: edmonton,canada Posts: 1,363	That really sucks. Hope theres no internal damage to it. enough to make a grown man cry __________________ Dean edmonton,canada a winter wonderland 2005 Chevrolet Avalanche LT cold air intake, performance exhaust, Comp cams cam, jba shorty ceramic headers. http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3090973

03-07-2005, 09:36 PM	#4
dwaite72lnghrn Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: central pa Posts: 1,525	Andy Not what I wanted to hear. 1 good thing is the old caddy engine could take low pressure for a little while high chrome. It wasn't burning any was it? No silver in the oil was a good sign. Hopefully it will just be the pump. Chin up all the hard work has been done. __________________ 72 longhorn c30 502BB/th400/fact air/4.11rear/ custom camper 72 bug(the better half's) under reconstruction 2009 HHR aqua blue 71 GMC k20 350/sm465 2009 Chevy hd3500 6.6 Victory Red crew cab dually Dave & Jeanne

03-07-2005, 09:41 PM	#5
67cst i love summertime Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kelowna BC Posts: 4,303	ill cross my fingers for ya andy, hope all works out __________________ 1967 shortbox stepside Chevy, 365 hp 327, th400. GLOVE BOX LIGHTS FORSALE, click link for info http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=273724

03-07-2005, 09:42 PM	#7
dtlilly Account Suspended Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Shadow of Lambeau Field Posts: 5,597	Geese Andy, when it rains it pours for some people. What was your water temp? Did you have water boiling in the system (your overflow tank) after pulling over and shutting down? These big engines can take some abuse and keep going, at least you were within the city and not on a road trip.

03-07-2005, 09:44 PM	#9
screamin_c102 Account Suspended Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Yoncalla Oregon Posts: 775	Crossin my fingers for ya

03-07-2005, 10:03 PM	#12
Gary Lee fixer of 72 GMC LWB Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newnan GA Posts: 111	Yikes, gives one a lil twinge down their in the bottom of the gut... Hope fer the best longhorn

03-07-2005, 10:06 PM	#13
dtlilly Account Suspended Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Shadow of Lambeau Field Posts: 5,597	Definately chech the fluids for mixing (white sludge on dip stick or in radiator). You may have just run her a bit warm. Since she was losing power, I'd go ahead and pull a rod cap off and check the berrings while you have the cover off.

03-07-2005, 10:13 PM	#14
Robert1970C20rstbukt Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Beeville, Texas Posts: 1,943	Damn that sucks, hope you get er fixed. __________________ RJD 1984 Chevrolet C30 welding truck 454/SM465 1977 GMC C15 pickup 350/TH350 1970 Chevrolet C20 pickup 350/TH400 1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban 454/TH350 1969 GMC 8500 478M V6/5 spd winch truck

03-07-2005, 10:21 PM	#15
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	no water in the oil, that is certian. In all reality, i wouldn't know what to look for on the bearing anyways...onless it is painfully obviouse. Since the oil pump is external, I'm just going to remove,rebuild, and install it and see if the engine made it through OK. i wouldn't have time to pull the engine untill next sautrday anywasy. Last edited by Longhorn Man; 03-07-2005 at 10:23 PM.

03-07-2005, 10:29 PM	#16
70c10 67-72 Addict! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The TAX State! Posts: 7,857	Andy, sorry to hear that man. I would check the valve train just to rule that area out. __________________ Jim 1970 C/10 Fleetside w/Ghost Flames Lowered 4.5" front and 4" rear (Raked) 355/350 Turbo w/shift kit 10" Redneck Performance Verter w/2500 stall Hooker Super Comps part#2808-1 Performer RPM Air-Gap 12 Bolt w/3:73 gears- Eaton Posi Comp Cams XE262 with 1.6 Crane Energizers, Road Demon 625 and Brodix IK 180 heads

03-07-2005, 10:30 PM	#17
krue Designated A-hole! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Mississippi Posts: 36,450	Good luck with it. Hope it's not a bearing. __________________ "If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!" Being stupid ain't illegal. We're Still Debt Free Except for the House!!! www.daveramsey.com 70 GMC SWB Stepside project "Green Booger" soon to be 6.0l/4l80e 93 S-10 "Poppaw's Truck"

03-07-2005, 10:34 PM	#18
Canadian694x4 Born To Lose Club Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Calgary, Alberta/Oxenden, Ontario, Great White North Posts: 13,308	Oh man, that sux! I hope when ya get the oil pump fixed and run 'er she checks out alright. I'll be crossin' my finger's for ya dude. __________________ Brian Smith - "Born To Lose" 1969 Chevrolet K10 LWB Fleetside - Proud Owner For 22 Yrs - 1 of 208 Built & Sold In Canada!- 283 V8/350TH/NP208, 2" All Spring Lift, 32" Good Year MT/R's. 1972 GMC K2500 Custom LWB Fleetside - Proud Owner For 3 Yrs - 1 of 571 Built & Sold In Canada! - 350 V8/SM465/NP205, 4” Rough Country Lift, 33” Interco TSL Thornbirds 2007.5 GMC Sierra SLE 2500HD 4x4 - Proud Owner For 17 Yrs- 6.6L V8 Duramax Diesel/Allison 1000, 2" Lift, 33" Mickey Thompson MTZ's. 2008 Yamaha Raptor 700r - Proud Owner For 15 Yrs - ITP Mud Lites. 2015 John Deere 1025R - Proud Owner For 8 Yrs - 24HP Diesel/H120/54D/260B/SB1154.

03-07-2005, 10:34 PM	#19
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03-07-2005, 10:38 PM	#20
bagged91 Out draggin' Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Pitman,NJ Posts: 1,574	You will definitely be able to tell if a bearing is worn by looking at it. Look at the surface. If you see any scoring, copper or other wear, then you need to put some bearings in... If you need to do the rods/mains, I would suggest checking the crank for any damage. If there is some damage, I am sure you could polish it out with some crocus & emery cloth..... Man, that does suck though.... Wishin' the best... L8R - Joe __________________ 91 GMC Xcab LB-Bags/bd/caddy clip SOLD 72 C10 Cheyenne Super LWB SOLD 92 GMC K1500 Burb 72 C10 Burb (ex. Cheesewagon)SOLD 72 C20 Burb parts truck 71 C10 Burb "project"

03-07-2005, 10:44 PM	#21
VetteVet Msgt USAF Ret Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan Posts: 8,715	Gawd Longhorn that bites. I heard that sound before and it sounds like SH!!tteeett. Check the gear on the dizzy and make sure it didn't dissolve on you. She probably would've quit instantly on you if that was it,but you never know. Good Luck anyhow VetteVet--old and know how big those crocodile tears can be __________________ VetteVet metallic green 67 stepside 74 corvette convertible 1965 Harley sportster 1995 Harley wide glide Growing old is hell, but it beats the alternative.

03-07-2005, 10:52 PM	#22
68 Stepside huh? Join Date: May 2000 Location: Washington, Illinois Posts: 5,692	4k on the interstate? GD man....... No other comments...good luck __________________ Someday when I'm lonely, Wishing you weren't so far away, Then I will remember Things we said today. RIP El Jay

03-07-2005, 11:01 PM	#23
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	yeah TJ, I was in a hurry. That should be around 80 or so...I was still getting passed up left and right...literally.

03-07-2005, 11:37 PM	#24
70 shorty Where's my beer? Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Glen Allen, VA Posts: 1,772	Ok, Andy, I'm predicting it's just a pump. You seem to attract the bad luck, so I'm going to say this time you're owed one. __________________ 70 C10, shortstep, .30 over 250,Hurst shifted 3 spd parts hauler. Holley 390, Clifford Intake, Header, ported cylinder head, unknown bigger cam. 79 Corvette L82, 4 spd, black, red interior, headers, flowmasters, and unkown bigger cam. '03 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.0 4x4 daily driver. 165K miles, and runs great '08 Tahoe LTZ 4x4 155K

03-07-2005, 11:46 PM	#25
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Naaa, I don't attract bad luck, I have good luck more than anything. This one is a total bummer though. You shoulda heard the lady when i called the insurance company up...she said "Didn't I talk to you yesterday...when you dropped the Town Car? You know you can't just swap coverage from vahicle to vehicle just so you can drive them both but pay insurance for one. When I explained what happend she laughed and said sorry.

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