Swapping out '70 grill to a '72 grill. What needs to be changed? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

REPO1 · 03-15-2005, 01:00 AM

I am thinking about adding a '72 style grill with a billet insert to my 1970 shortbox buildup. Are there any brackets or hood latch that need to be changed as well? Or is this pretty much a bolt in item? If its going to need a ton of extra stuff to make it work, I'll just buy a new '70 style.

Thanks!

*screamin_c102* · 03-15-2005, 01:21 AM

You'll need the latch support from a '71-72 as well as the surround. The latch itself should be the same. The '71-72 have the turnsignal / parking lights in the bumper as well, so if you want to go all the way you would have to change out youre bumper to the later style. If anybody has anything to add feel free...

REPO1 · 03-15-2005, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by screamin_c10

You'll need the latch support from a '71-72 as well as the surround. The latch itself should be the same. The '71-72 have the turnsignal / parking lights in the bumper as well, so if you want to go all the way you would have to change out youre bumper to the later style. If anybody has anything to add feel free...

Good point. I forgot to mention that I still have to buy a front bumper so that isn't a problem as too which one I get.

By the surround to you mean the actual aluminum outer grill part?

Bob Moore · 03-15-2005, 01:42 AM

Changing bumpers means you need 71/72 outer bumper brackets because the bolt holes are out further to clear the parking lights.

REPO1 · 03-15-2005, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Moore

Changing bumpers means you need 71/72 outer bumper brackets because the bolt holes are out further to clear the parking lights.

I need all the brackets, as I have none.

*screamin_c102* · 03-15-2005, 02:11 AM

yup

MOTHERTRUCKERS · 03-15-2005, 08:41 AM

center support,bumper,brackets and park/turn light assemblies.

**raggedjim** · 03-15-2005, 09:38 AM

If you are putting in a billet grill you can mount your existing turn signal assy behind the grill, that's what I did and it works well. The police haven't called me on it... I fabbed up some supports. I can get a picture tonite...

Save you from buying a bumper, Rg

REPO1 · 03-15-2005, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by raggedjim

If you are putting in a billet grill you can mount your existing turn signal assy behind the grill, that's what I did and it works well. The police haven't called me on it... I fabbed up some supports. I can get a picture tonite...

Save you from buying a bumper, Rg

Do you have any pics of that setup?

**raggedjim** · 03-15-2005, 11:08 AM

I can get some tonight

c10chevy69 · 03-15-2005, 03:54 PM

Yes we need to see the pics. Can you also show some of the marker light work that you did. I am also doing the 72 grille swap onto a 69. I have everything I need but I am curious how you did the marker lights.

RicksTrucks · 03-15-2005, 06:40 PM

I have a latch support and latch from a 71-72 if you need one. It just has surface rust

REPO1 · 03-15-2005, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RicksTrucks

I have a latch support and latch from a 71-72 if you need one. I just has surface rust

Pics? Price?

RicksTrucks · 03-15-2005, 07:14 PM

$20.00 plus shipping

*Randy70C-10* · 03-15-2005, 07:41 PM

I have the outer bumper brackets from a 71, $30 shipped to your door if you're interested.

**raggedjim** · 03-15-2005, 08:39 PM

Can't tell they are there unless you really look, but they show up well at night.

I just made my own brackets, wasn't hard if you have access to a metal brake and a sheer. Used the original lights. Hope this helps, I think the bumper without the markers looks smoother, just my opinion.

Good luck, Roger

**raggedjim** · 03-15-2005, 08:44 PM

D@mn, I shoulda cleaneed the bugs off...

REPO1 · 03-15-2005, 09:28 PM

Looks awesome!!

c10chevy69 · 03-15-2005, 09:39 PM

They look cool! Did you have that setup on the original inner grille? If you did how did it work with that?

**raggedjim** · 03-15-2005, 10:20 PM

c10chevy69, no, those are the original markers but they were in the original location for a 69-70 grill, which means they were mounted horizontally on each end of the center bar.

I have a feeling it would have looked very BAD (NOT GOOD) mounted that way with the original grill...

Rg

kingsolver72 · 03-15-2005, 10:26 PM

Rag,thats smooth!

c10chevy69 · 03-15-2005, 10:33 PM

Sorry I meant the original 71-72 inner grille. I have an original grille not a billet one.

**raggedjim** · 03-15-2005, 10:56 PM

Thanks for the kind words everyone, it needs lots of work...

c10chevy, sorry I thought you had a 69 for some reason, I guess you could do something similiar with the 71-72 grill.

Rg

wyatt-erp · 03-15-2005, 11:49 PM

I really like the billitt grill. I think the smooth bumper sets it off for me.

c10chevy69 · 03-17-2005, 12:03 AM

Your right I do have a 69. But I also have a 72 for parts and the grille is one of the things I have wanted to change. Your pictures will help me a lot in making it work. Thanks.

03-15-2005, 01:00 AM	#1
REPO1 Shortbox wanna-be. Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Fort St.John, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 773	Swapping out '70 grill to a '72 grill. What needs to be changed? I am thinking about adding a '72 style grill with a billet insert to my 1970 shortbox buildup. Are there any brackets or hood latch that need to be changed as well? Or is this pretty much a bolt in item? If its going to need a ton of extra stuff to make it work, I'll just buy a new '70 style. Thanks! __________________ 1970 Chevy C20 Custom Camper 402BB Turbo 400 trans. (Slowly becoming a '70 shortbox 1/2 ton) '71 Camaro SS 402/T400 resto '97 Z28 (11.41@127MPH)

03-15-2005, 01:42 AM	#4
Bob Moore Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tacoma WA Posts: 1,365	Changing bumpers means you need 71/72 outer bumper brackets because the bolt holes are out further to clear the parking lights. __________________ 67 C-20 LWB, tilt, speed alert, vac, 454, T400 67 C-10 SWB, factory air with more to follow

03-15-2005, 08:41 AM	#7
MOTHERTRUCKERS Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: BRADENTON FLA Posts: 3,269	center support,bumper,brackets and park/turn light assemblies. __________________ Rest in Peace Ed. Thanks for all the good times.

03-15-2005, 09:38 AM	#8
raggedjim Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Murray, Kentucky Posts: 3,589	If you are putting in a billet grill you can mount your existing turn signal assy behind the grill, that's what I did and it works well. The police haven't called me on it... I fabbed up some supports. I can get a picture tonite... Save you from buying a bumper, Rg __________________ Roger '68 Short step - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=849675 '69 ('70?) 2wd Blazer '70 GMC Jimmy 2wd '73 Firebird - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=853203

03-15-2005, 11:08 AM	#10
raggedjim Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Murray, Kentucky Posts: 3,589	I can get some tonight __________________ Roger '68 Short step - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=849675 '69 ('70?) 2wd Blazer '70 GMC Jimmy 2wd '73 Firebird - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=853203

03-15-2005, 01:21 AM	#2
screamin_c102 Account Suspended Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Yoncalla Oregon Posts: 775	You'll need the latch support from a '71-72 as well as the surround. The latch itself should be the same. The '71-72 have the turnsignal / parking lights in the bumper as well, so if you want to go all the way you would have to change out youre bumper to the later style. If anybody has anything to add feel free...

03-15-2005, 02:11 AM	#6
screamin_c102 Account Suspended Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Yoncalla Oregon Posts: 775	yup

03-15-2005, 03:54 PM	#11
c10chevy69 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 205	Yes we need to see the pics. Can you also show some of the marker light work that you did. I am also doing the 72 grille swap onto a 69. I have everything I need but I am curious how you did the marker lights. __________________ 1969 chevy C10 long bed 350 4bbl auto p/disc and 5 lug

03-15-2005, 06:40 PM	#12
RicksTrucks Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Claremore, OK 74017 Posts: 2,640	I have a latch support and latch from a 71-72 if you need one. It just has surface rust __________________ 68 Short Stepside C-10 69 SWB C-10 70 Flatbed C-20 70 LWB C-20 BB402 70 LWB C-10 CST 70 LWB C-10 CST 71 Short Stepside Cheyenne C-10 72 LWB C-10 72 Blazer 4x4 4spd 95 Jeep Cherokee 4x4 Last edited by RicksTrucks; 03-15-2005 at 08:24 PM.

03-15-2005, 07:14 PM	#14
RicksTrucks Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Claremore, OK 74017 Posts: 2,640	Latch and Support for 71-72 $20.00 plus shipping Attached Images __________________ 68 Short Stepside C-10 69 SWB C-10 70 Flatbed C-20 70 LWB C-20 BB402 70 LWB C-10 CST 70 LWB C-10 CST 71 Short Stepside Cheyenne C-10 72 LWB C-10 72 Blazer 4x4 4spd 95 Jeep Cherokee 4x4 Last edited by RicksTrucks; 03-17-2005 at 12:16 AM.

03-15-2005, 07:41 PM	#15
Randy70C-10 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Virginia Beach, Va. U.S.A. Posts: 15,320	I have the outer bumper brackets from a 71, $30 shipped to your door if you're interested.

03-15-2005, 08:39 PM	#16
raggedjim Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Murray, Kentucky Posts: 3,589	Can't tell they are there unless you really look, but they show up well at night. I just made my own brackets, wasn't hard if you have access to a metal brake and a sheer. Used the original lights. Hope this helps, I think the bumper without the markers looks smoother, just my opinion. Good luck, Roger __________________ Roger '68 Short step - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=849675 '69 ('70?) 2wd Blazer '70 GMC Jimmy 2wd '73 Firebird - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=853203 Last edited by raggedjim; 10-21-2009 at 03:20 PM.

03-15-2005, 08:44 PM	#17
raggedjim Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Murray, Kentucky Posts: 3,589	D@mn, I shoulda cleaneed the bugs off... __________________ Roger '68 Short step - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=849675 '69 ('70?) 2wd Blazer '70 GMC Jimmy 2wd '73 Firebird - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=853203

03-15-2005, 09:28 PM	#18
REPO1 Shortbox wanna-be. Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Fort St.John, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 773	Looks awesome!! __________________ 1970 Chevy C20 Custom Camper 402BB Turbo 400 trans. (Slowly becoming a '70 shortbox 1/2 ton) '71 Camaro SS 402/T400 resto '97 Z28 (11.41@127MPH)

03-15-2005, 09:39 PM	#19
c10chevy69 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 205	They look cool! Did you have that setup on the original inner grille? If you did how did it work with that? __________________ 1969 chevy C10 long bed 350 4bbl auto p/disc and 5 lug



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03-15-2005, 10:20 PM	#20
raggedjim Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Murray, Kentucky Posts: 3,589	c10chevy69, no, those are the original markers but they were in the original location for a 69-70 grill, which means they were mounted horizontally on each end of the center bar. I have a feeling it would have looked very BAD (NOT GOOD) mounted that way with the original grill... Rg __________________ Roger '68 Short step - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=849675 '69 ('70?) 2wd Blazer '70 GMC Jimmy 2wd '73 Firebird - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=853203

03-15-2005, 10:26 PM	#21
kingsolver72 10/30/19 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: ottawa kansas Posts: 5,244	Rag,thats smooth!

03-15-2005, 10:33 PM	#22
c10chevy69 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 205	Sorry I meant the original 71-72 inner grille. I have an original grille not a billet one. __________________ 1969 chevy C10 long bed 350 4bbl auto p/disc and 5 lug

03-15-2005, 10:56 PM	#23
raggedjim Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Murray, Kentucky Posts: 3,589	Thanks for the kind words everyone, it needs lots of work... c10chevy, sorry I thought you had a 69 for some reason, I guess you could do something similiar with the 71-72 grill. Rg __________________ Roger '68 Short step - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=849675 '69 ('70?) 2wd Blazer '70 GMC Jimmy 2wd '73 Firebird - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=853203

03-15-2005, 11:49 PM	#24
wyatt-erp Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 24	I really like the billitt grill. I think the smooth bumper sets it off for me.

03-17-2005, 12:03 AM	#25
c10chevy69 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 205	Your right I do have a 69. But I also have a 72 for parts and the grille is one of the things I have wanted to change. Your pictures will help me a lot in making it work. Thanks. __________________ 1969 chevy C10 long bed 350 4bbl auto p/disc and 5 lug

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