....Headliner install in a non headliner cab??????? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

mooneyes · 03-30-2005, 10:03 PM

...anybody done this?...after i get the truck painted i would like to put a headliner in it but its a non headliner cab...i'm guessing the only way to do it is to cut the slots in the roof for the trim?..

dmec · 03-30-2005, 10:18 PM

my truck never had a headliner. when i had the upholstery done i had them make a padded headliner and install it with velcro. no screws, no trim. works great

powell72 · 03-30-2005, 11:25 PM

In order to get the headliner trim to not sag you need to make the slots for the trim. It's a pain but can be done.

Longhorn Man · 03-30-2005, 11:50 PM

You don't need the slots, you don't even need the trim. The headliner is supposed to be glued in place.
You can glue it in there, take the trim, break off the tabs that require the slots, and then just drill the holes for the screws.
MAKE SURE YOU USE SHORT SCREWS !!!!!!!!!!
I don't have the pic here...but the old GMC had screws pokin through the cab roof from the dope smokin old man that had it before me.

Mudder · 03-31-2005, 07:39 AM

I used screws on mine and glue. IMO they look better with the trim around them. Screws need to be very short. Come to think of it I used double sided tape.

UP GRADE · 03-31-2005, 08:15 AM

take a look at this it might help it's from brother web site.
http://www.brotherstrucks.com/tech/t...20INSTALLATION

Brewski* · 03-31-2005, 10:12 AM

Great stuff from the Bro site THANKS~!!!

**special-K** · 03-31-2005, 10:51 AM

I just used 3M weatherstrip adhesive/no trim.Had the truck 12 years,stayed there fine.Trim would be nicer.I did it before repro days.

mooneyes · 03-31-2005, 06:11 PM

thanks guys..i figured i could glue the headliner up but i definatly want the trim but the thought of cutting all those slots sounded like a real PIMA but screws or 2 way tape sound good...scary thing will be buying new trim then cutting off the tabs without breaking the rest.........

shifty · 03-31-2005, 11:15 PM

I saw one yesterday in a JC Whiteny catalog for our truck and I'm pretty sure it used adhesive as well.

67ChevyC10Stepside · 03-31-2005, 11:34 PM

my cab is a headliner cab and i freakin hate it....i need to get another cab lol.....i figure if i try to weld them up i'll warp it....and i SERIOUSLY HATE the headliners.

shifty · 03-31-2005, 11:37 PM

You can use fiberglass plugs for small holes like that. That's what we used on my '03 Sierra to plug up the holes in the tailgate (the ones for the protective trim at the top) when I shaved it. Those were square shaped holes. The little fiberglass plugs worked well.

67ChevyC10Stepside · 03-31-2005, 11:48 PM

what are fiberglass plugs?

shifty · 04-01-2005, 12:02 AM

I dunno, the guy that helped on my truck lives across from my parents down in the bar area of florida. He used some kind of fiberglass stuff to fill the holes in my tailgate, wiated for it to harden, then sanded it flat. Thye stuff plugs the hole and makes a small lip inside to catch the lip of the tailgate. He said this was the way he preferred to do things versus welding stuff shut.

Like this: http://www.sporttruck.com/projectbuild/1448/

Look at the fourth and fifth panel down. It's like some kind of fiberglass epoxy that's used to plug up the hole. Fiberglass doesn't rust or warp like a welded body panel will.

I don't know why people still weld stuff shut. This is supposed to be a lot easier for plugging holes. But ... I'm no body worker.

You tell me -

See the four holes in the top of my tailgate?
http://www.shifty.org/pics/truck/bod..._tailgate2.jpg

Now, look at the four holes after - they were filled with fiberglass just like in that article:
http://www.shifty.org/pics/truck/body_work/after2.jpg

Man, I really miss my old truck

67ChevyC10Stepside · 04-01-2005, 12:16 AM

there is also fusor you can do that with...

shifty · 04-01-2005, 12:25 AM

fusor?

03-30-2005, 10:03 PM	#1
mooneyes Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slippery Rock PA USA Posts: 1,692	....Headliner install in a non headliner cab??????? ...anybody done this?...after i get the truck painted i would like to put a headliner in it but its a non headliner cab...i'm guessing the only way to do it is to cut the slots in the roof for the trim?.. __________________ Ken Lyons, Slippery rock pa 68 short step 327 t10 4 gear 72 2wd blazer project 70 lwb 305/700r driver 78 caprice project 02 cavalier D.D ( hate it!!)

03-30-2005, 11:25 PM	#3
powell72 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Loveland Co. Posts: 3,098	In order to get the headliner trim to not sag you need to make the slots for the trim. It's a pain but can be done. __________________ Chris 74 Custom Deluxe SWB 350/350/3.73’s 99 2wd Silverado RCSB 5.3/4L60/3.90’s http://www.classictrucks.com/feature...short_bed.html

03-31-2005, 07:39 AM	#5
Mudder Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: East Central, MO Posts: 11,336	I used screws on mine and glue. IMO they look better with the trim around them. Screws need to be very short. Come to think of it I used double sided tape. Attached Images

03-31-2005, 10:51 AM	#8
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	I just used 3M weatherstrip adhesive/no trim.Had the truck 12 years,stayed there fine.Trim would be nicer.I did it before repro days. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

03-31-2005, 06:11 PM	#9
mooneyes Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slippery Rock PA USA Posts: 1,692	thanks guys..i figured i could glue the headliner up but i definatly want the trim but the thought of cutting all those slots sounded like a real PIMA but screws or 2 way tape sound good...scary thing will be buying new trim then cutting off the tabs without breaking the rest......... __________________ Ken Lyons, Slippery rock pa 68 short step 327 t10 4 gear 72 2wd blazer project 70 lwb 305/700r driver 78 caprice project 02 cavalier D.D ( hate it!!)

03-30-2005, 10:18 PM	#2
dmec Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: yucaipa ca Posts: 580	my truck never had a headliner. when i had the upholstery done i had them make a padded headliner and install it with velcro. no screws, no trim. works great

03-30-2005, 11:50 PM	#4
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	You don't need the slots, you don't even need the trim. The headliner is supposed to be glued in place. You can glue it in there, take the trim, break off the tabs that require the slots, and then just drill the holes for the screws. MAKE SURE YOU USE SHORT SCREWS !!!!!!!!!! I don't have the pic here...but the old GMC had screws pokin through the cab roof from the dope smokin old man that had it before me.

03-31-2005, 08:15 AM	#6
UP GRADE one set closer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Memphis TN. Posts: 722	take a look at this it might help it's from brother web site. http://www.brotherstrucks.com/tech/t...20INSTALLATION

03-31-2005, 10:12 AM	#7
Brewski* Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Rocky Mount, MO Posts: 1,293	Great stuff from the Bro site THANKS~!!!

03-31-2005, 11:15 PM	#10
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,373	I saw one yesterday in a JC Whiteny catalog for our truck and I'm pretty sure it used adhesive as well. __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM.

03-31-2005, 11:34 PM	#11
67ChevyC10Stepside Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Butler PA Posts: 3,032	my cab is a headliner cab and i freakin hate it....i need to get another cab lol.....i figure if i try to weld them up i'll warp it....and i SERIOUSLY HATE the headliners. __________________ 67 c-10, 400 SB, TH350, 4.10 gears, Blazer tank,camaro tach, sidemarker fuel fill (soon) WTB: stepside parts, 67 front end parts, 67 small window cab. posi for 3.73 or 4.10 for 12 bolt and 10 bolt.

03-31-2005, 11:37 PM	#12
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,373	You can use fiberglass plugs for small holes like that. That's what we used on my '03 Sierra to plug up the holes in the tailgate (the ones for the protective trim at the top) when I shaved it. Those were square shaped holes. The little fiberglass plugs worked well. __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM.

03-31-2005, 11:48 PM	#13
67ChevyC10Stepside Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Butler PA Posts: 3,032	what are fiberglass plugs? __________________ 67 c-10, 400 SB, TH350, 4.10 gears, Blazer tank,camaro tach, sidemarker fuel fill (soon) WTB: stepside parts, 67 front end parts, 67 small window cab. posi for 3.73 or 4.10 for 12 bolt and 10 bolt.

04-01-2005, 12:02 AM	#14
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,373	I dunno, the guy that helped on my truck lives across from my parents down in the bar area of florida. He used some kind of fiberglass stuff to fill the holes in my tailgate, wiated for it to harden, then sanded it flat. Thye stuff plugs the hole and makes a small lip inside to catch the lip of the tailgate. He said this was the way he preferred to do things versus welding stuff shut. Like this: http://www.sporttruck.com/projectbuild/1448/ Look at the fourth and fifth panel down. It's like some kind of fiberglass epoxy that's used to plug up the hole. Fiberglass doesn't rust or warp like a welded body panel will. I don't know why people still weld stuff shut. This is supposed to be a lot easier for plugging holes. But ... I'm no body worker. You tell me - See the four holes in the top of my tailgate? http://www.shifty.org/pics/truck/bod..._tailgate2.jpg Now, look at the four holes after - they were filled with fiberglass just like in that article: http://www.shifty.org/pics/truck/body_work/after2.jpg Man, I really miss my old truck __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM.

04-01-2005, 12:16 AM	#15
67ChevyC10Stepside Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Butler PA Posts: 3,032	there is also fusor you can do that with... __________________ 67 c-10, 400 SB, TH350, 4.10 gears, Blazer tank,camaro tach, sidemarker fuel fill (soon) WTB: stepside parts, 67 front end parts, 67 small window cab. posi for 3.73 or 4.10 for 12 bolt and 10 bolt.



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04-01-2005, 12:25 AM	#16
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,373	fusor? __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM.

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