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thisolechevy · 04-05-2005, 11:33 PM

I started to change my oil today in the '69 but couldnt finish because I realized that I had the wrong oil filter, I have never changed the oil in the truck myself because my best buddy worked at a shell rapid lube and we would trade trucks for the day and they would do all of the fluids. Anyways I went to Autozone and purchased a Ph30 oil filter (what thier computers said fit) for my 1968 327 out of an impala. Well that filter is the usual "spin-on" type filter where the casing and the filter are all one unit. Well I get under the truck I relize that my filter is seperate from the canister, almost like the filter sits inside a cup. I have looked the engine up online and they keep saying that the PH30 should fit the motor! whats wrong here?????? And also is there any really big difference between these two styles of filters and their ability to filter the oil? is there a conversion to go to the "spin-on" filters?
Thanks

Johnny05 · 04-06-2005, 12:08 AM

Sounds like you have the "older" canister type oil filter(see attached). The '68 Impala I drove in HS had a 327 with a canister filter. They do(or used to..

) make a conversion for it. I believe NAPA has the conversion kit or can get it. It's pretty simple to change over which makes easier to get replacement filters...

cableguy0 · 04-06-2005, 12:14 AM

yea they definately make a conversion modern oil filters are easier to deal with and better but i would take that ph30 and get something a little better fram has a good name but there filters are junk.

1969 GMC · 04-06-2005, 12:22 AM

My truck has the canister filter. I never had a problem finding replacements for it at the local Napa, either. My dad was happy when he saw it on my truck, he thinks they are way better than the screw on type. Doesn't really matter to me.

thisolechevy · 04-06-2005, 12:37 AM

cool I'll take the filter in tomorrow and see what the price difference is for the filter, and then for the conversion.

toms68cst · 04-06-2005, 08:14 AM

Somewhere I've heard that canister filters are better than spin-on. I'd stay with canister if you don't mind the hassle of procuring them and the added mess of changing them.

chevybill · 04-06-2005, 08:29 AM

my brother had a 69 c 10 lwb, 307 with this type of oil filter, we called it a "sock" type filter.

sneakysnake · 04-06-2005, 09:40 AM

http://www.customclassictrucks.com/t.../0311cct_spin/

RicksTrucks · 04-06-2005, 10:50 AM

My 69 SWB with 307 had the cartridge filter. One of the quick oil change places recommended that I change to the spin on and they had the conversion kit and did it for me.

thisolechevy · 04-06-2005, 11:16 PM

thanks for all of the help guys!! I really appreciate this board and all that you guys do (new or old members) I went ahead and just got a new cartridge filter this time due to lack of funds :-) next time I will probably do the conversion.

pritch · 04-06-2005, 11:56 PM

When did they change over to the spin-on type? I have a '68 327 awaiting rebuild and it has the cannister type. I think I'll keep it, 'cause I want to stay as original as possible.

1969 GMC · 04-07-2005, 02:55 AM

Well I should have put this in my earlier post, but (duh) I forgot. When I decoded my engine block it turned out to be non-original, and came out to be either a '73 or '74 school bus chassis, and it has the canister type.

bobs409 · 04-07-2005, 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pritch

When did they change over to the spin-on type? I have a '68 327 awaiting rebuild and it has the cannister type. I think I'll keep it, 'cause I want to stay as original as possible.

Cars went to spin on for 1968. I would think trucks did too.

toms68cst · 04-07-2005, 08:03 AM

I'm not sure of the exact transition but many if not most 68 SB trucks were canister while the cars had made the transition to spin-on. I'm not sure about BB trucks.

My truck had the canister. I've converted to spin-on for the time being but plan on converting back now that I've found a good NOS oil pressure bypass assembly to replace my cracked original one.

Some police package cars or "extreme duty" cars could be ordered with canister in 68 and perhaps later years. I'm not sure.

chevybill · 04-07-2005, 08:44 AM

My brother bought his 69 c 10 from the original owner and it had this type of oil filter on the 307 v-8.

Hook'em · 04-07-2005, 09:32 AM

I have a canister filter. The lube places will change the filter as long as you bring one in.

Pilgrim · 04-07-2005, 02:48 PM

I have a canister filter. NAPA and Discount auto sell the cartridges. My 69, 71, and 72 all had spin on filters.

04-05-2005, 11:33 PM	#1
thisolechevy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Gainesville, Fl Posts: 382	wierd oil filter I started to change my oil today in the '69 but couldnt finish because I realized that I had the wrong oil filter, I have never changed the oil in the truck myself because my best buddy worked at a shell rapid lube and we would trade trucks for the day and they would do all of the fluids. Anyways I went to Autozone and purchased a Ph30 oil filter (what thier computers said fit) for my 1968 327 out of an impala. Well that filter is the usual "spin-on" type filter where the casing and the filter are all one unit. Well I get under the truck I relize that my filter is seperate from the canister, almost like the filter sits inside a cup. I have looked the engine up online and they keep saying that the PH30 should fit the motor! whats wrong here?????? And also is there any really big difference between these two styles of filters and their ability to filter the oil? is there a conversion to go to the "spin-on" filters? Thanks __________________ Man I need another 67-72!!! Last edited by thisolechevy; 04-05-2005 at 11:34 PM.

04-06-2005, 12:08 AM	#2
Johnny05 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 73	Sounds like you have the "older" canister type oil filter(see attached). The '68 Impala I drove in HS had a 327 with a canister filter. They do(or used to.. ) make a conversion for it. I believe NAPA has the conversion kit or can get it. It's pretty simple to change over which makes easier to get replacement filters... Attached Images

04-06-2005, 12:14 AM	#3
cableguy0 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Delta,Pa Posts: 14,950	yea they definately make a conversion modern oil filters are easier to deal with and better but i would take that ph30 and get something a little better fram has a good name but there filters are junk. __________________ Owner of North Point Car Care in Dundalk Md. We specialize in custom exhaust on both modern and classic vehicles. We are a full service auto shop from classics to modern vehicles. Feel free to contact me with questions. I will give a 10% discount to any board member.

04-06-2005, 12:22 AM	#4
1969 GMC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The Rubber City Posts: 5,498	My truck has the canister filter. I never had a problem finding replacements for it at the local Napa, either. My dad was happy when he saw it on my truck, he thinks they are way better than the screw on type. Doesn't really matter to me. __________________ 1969 GMC K2500 1996 Honda Accord 2007 Kawasaki KLR 650

04-06-2005, 12:37 AM	#5
thisolechevy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Gainesville, Fl Posts: 382	cool I'll take the filter in tomorrow and see what the price difference is for the filter, and then for the conversion. __________________ Man I need another 67-72!!!

04-06-2005, 08:14 AM	#6
toms68cst Registered User Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Bismarck, ND Posts: 4,293	Somewhere I've heard that canister filters are better than spin-on. I'd stay with canister if you don't mind the hassle of procuring them and the added mess of changing them. __________________ Unrestored 68 C-10 CST. Original 327. 4-Speed CH465. 50k or so miles. TREASURER, Drum Brake Club.

04-06-2005, 08:29 AM	#7
chevybill Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: calhoun city ms Posts: 940	my brother had a 69 c 10 lwb, 307 with this type of oil filter, we called it a "sock" type filter. __________________ ongoing 1970 c 10 lwb 1994 z-28 few mods.-owned since new 1978 vette silver/grey 25th anniv. paint

04-06-2005, 09:40 AM	#8
sneakysnake It's a catastrophic success. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 2,077	http://www.customclassictrucks.com/t.../0311cct_spin/

04-06-2005, 10:50 AM	#9
RicksTrucks Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Claremore, OK 74017 Posts: 2,640	My 69 SWB with 307 had the cartridge filter. One of the quick oil change places recommended that I change to the spin on and they had the conversion kit and did it for me. __________________ 68 Short Stepside C-10 69 SWB C-10 70 Flatbed C-20 70 LWB C-20 BB402 70 LWB C-10 CST 70 LWB C-10 CST 71 Short Stepside Cheyenne C-10 72 LWB C-10 72 Blazer 4x4 4spd 95 Jeep Cherokee 4x4

04-06-2005, 11:16 PM	#10
thisolechevy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Gainesville, Fl Posts: 382	thanks for all of the help guys!! I really appreciate this board and all that you guys do (new or old members) I went ahead and just got a new cartridge filter this time due to lack of funds :-) next time I will probably do the conversion. __________________ Man I need another 67-72!!! Last edited by thisolechevy; 04-06-2005 at 11:16 PM.

04-06-2005, 11:56 PM	#11
pritch Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hoytsville, Utah Posts: 3,365	When did they change over to the spin-on type? I have a '68 327 awaiting rebuild and it has the cannister type. I think I'll keep it, 'cause I want to stay as original as possible. __________________ '68 Panel Project Boogie Chillin' '68 C-10 Ol' Green

04-07-2005, 02:55 AM	#12
1969 GMC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The Rubber City Posts: 5,498	Well I should have put this in my earlier post, but (duh) I forgot. When I decoded my engine block it turned out to be non-original, and came out to be either a '73 or '74 school bus chassis, and it has the canister type. __________________ 1969 GMC K2500 1996 Honda Accord 2007 Kawasaki KLR 650

04-07-2005, 08:03 AM	#14
toms68cst Registered User Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Bismarck, ND Posts: 4,293	I'm not sure of the exact transition but many if not most 68 SB trucks were canister while the cars had made the transition to spin-on. I'm not sure about BB trucks. My truck had the canister. I've converted to spin-on for the time being but plan on converting back now that I've found a good NOS oil pressure bypass assembly to replace my cracked original one. Some police package cars or "extreme duty" cars could be ordered with canister in 68 and perhaps later years. I'm not sure. __________________ Unrestored 68 C-10 CST. Original 327. 4-Speed CH465. 50k or so miles. TREASURER, Drum Brake Club.

04-07-2005, 08:44 AM	#15
chevybill Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: calhoun city ms Posts: 940	My brother bought his 69 c 10 from the original owner and it had this type of oil filter on the 307 v-8. __________________ ongoing 1970 c 10 lwb 1994 z-28 few mods.-owned since new 1978 vette silver/grey 25th anniv. paint

04-07-2005, 09:32 AM	#16
Hook'em Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Round Rock, Texas Posts: 858	I have a canister filter. The lube places will change the filter as long as you bring one in. __________________ Hook'em



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04-07-2005, 02:48 PM	#17
Pilgrim Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Crescent City, FL Posts: 492	I have a canister filter. NAPA and Discount auto sell the cartridges. My 69, 71, and 72 all had spin on filters. __________________ Bob 68 C20 Camper Special

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