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mjrmn · 04-29-2005, 10:23 PM

Hello all
anyone have a good (tight) steering sector for a '67 4x4 for sale? My original is worn to the point I have almost a quarter turn on the steering wheel to get a reaction on the wheels.
Thanks

chief bobber · 04-29-2005, 10:40 PM

I'm not sure what you mean by a sector, are you talking about a steering box? If so I may have a good one. I could check it tomorrow.

mjrmn · 04-29-2005, 11:00 PM

Sorry--yes I mean the steering box-please let me know if you have one and how much you want for it
THANKS!

gregbr · 04-30-2005, 06:22 PM

Did you try to adjust it first? I had the same problem and was able to get out alot of the play. Just a thought.......

mjrmn · 04-30-2005, 06:47 PM

Yes I have adjusted it but it still has alot of play and as a bonus I now have the turning radius of a Greyhound bus.

chief bobber · 04-30-2005, 07:44 PM

It's been raining all day, but I should be able to get pictures and an idea tomorrow.

mjrmn · 04-30-2005, 08:19 PM

Great-thanks for taking the time to look!

chief bobber · 05-02-2005, 05:19 PM

mjimn,
Checked it out about five minutes back and it's toast. Sorry! Here is a picture of what I have. Just for ha ha's was it the correct piece?

mjrmn · 05-02-2005, 05:38 PM

Yup-that looks like the correct piece to me--too bad its toast but I appreciate you taking the tome to check it out!

chief bobber · 05-02-2005, 07:17 PM

Ah, twas an easy thing to do. It would figure that a 38 year old 4X4 piece might be worn to crap. It would seem that you could rebuild one of these or up grade to something newer. Have you checked a search in the suspension section? I will check this weekend (if it's dry) in me old parts stash. You never know what kind of jewels might surface. At any rate good luck.........

chief bobber · 05-02-2005, 07:19 PM

PS thanks for the ID as it reinforces the fact that I have a 67 4x4 chassis under my 70 panel

mjrmn · 05-02-2005, 09:50 PM

Thanks again for takin' the time to look. I have tried the local parts stores to get a price on a new unit but none of their books go back further than '68. As for upgrading, my understanding is the '67 frame is not "dimpled" to accept a newer box and I dont know if I want to attempt to space one away from the frame or "dimple" my frame to make one fit. I am afraid I will screw up the steering geometry and make it worse than it is. As a side note, you said you have a '67 frame under your '70 panel? I would be interested in seeing some pictures of that vehicle. How is the ride quality? Do you have four wheel drum brakes or have you found a way to upgrade to front or rear disk? I have been considering swapping my '67 body onto a 90's+ frame to get the better suspension and brakes (I have already swapped a TBI 350 for the original 283) but I like the solid front axle.

chief bobber · 05-02-2005, 11:53 PM

I didn't do this vehicle, but I can tell you about it. The PO swapped in a 71-72 set of axles, but the guy was a bit challenged after he got that far. First thing he did wrong was to swap in a set of 73+ front springs which moves the axle back about 1 1/2", then the fact that a 67 Steering box will not work with the later steering linkage probably ended it for him. I am going to remove this frame and install a 2wd frame, but I intend on using this frame to build another truck. To remedy the steering box (on the 4x4), I will install a 86 4x4 blazer box I pulled at a local junker for $20. I will most likely dimple the frame myself. The easier thing to do is to find a section of 68-72 frame from the bumper mount back past the steering box to a likely spot and weld it in. As far as installing a 90s frame unless you are pretty talented and the frame contours are VERY CLOSE, you could get in deep real quick. Most times it's easier to install the later components into the proper frame for your truck. That is my intention with my 2wd frame to achieve a respectable amount of gas mileage. I have already purchased a 5 Spd from a 87 Z28 5.7 and I intend on added a very late 5.3 V8 with all the computer stuff. I need to look into 80s style front end pieces. There is certainly enough information here on the boards to help anyone though whatever process that is decided upon.
Good luck, KC

teeitup · 05-03-2005, 12:05 AM

I may have one out there, I'll have to look Tuesday evening

chief bobber · 05-03-2005, 04:16 PM

I forgot to mention that you probably have a closed (ball & socket) front end and I'm not sure what will work for a steering box, as the 67 box has the pitman coming out of the side while the later boxes come out of the bottom.

teeitup · 05-04-2005, 10:57 PM

I got one on a 67 4x4 out there, it seems tight but can't really tell till I get it off and that will be next week sometime. $75 plus shipping, Thanks Randy

04-29-2005, 10:23 PM	#1
mjrmn '67 K10 Work In Process Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Delano MN Posts: 163	WTB-'67 4x4 steering sector Hello all anyone have a good (tight) steering sector for a '67 4x4 for sale? My original is worn to the point I have almost a quarter turn on the steering wheel to get a reaction on the wheels. Thanks

04-29-2005, 10:40 PM	#2
chief bobber Sanity is a state of mind Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Humpshire Posts: 93	I'm not sure what you mean by a sector, are you talking about a steering box? If so I may have a good one. I could check it tomorrow. __________________ 67 K-10 8ft step 250/465/timken 4 shaft/373 to 1 70 C-10 Panel Vortec V/5spd BW od /307 to 1 70 C-30 9ft stepside dump 350/465/ posi and a few too many other trucks, cars, jeeps, cruisiers, and M/Cs ...o~`o

04-30-2005, 06:22 PM	#4
gregbr Senoir Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Rock Hill, SC USA Posts: 1,214	Did you try to adjust it first? I had the same problem and was able to get out alot of the play. Just a thought....... __________________ 67 Chevy, Small back glass, Factory 4WD, Factory Shortbed, Factory V8, Lifted 4" 70 GMC Sierra Grande, Factory Shortbed, Factory 402/400 turbo, Super Custom Interior. Numbers matching with SPID & Build Sheet. 68K Original Miles. Restored 2010 70 GMC Restoration Pictures http://67-72chevytrucks.com/gallery/...00&ppuser=4424

04-30-2005, 07:44 PM	#6
chief bobber Sanity is a state of mind Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Humpshire Posts: 93	It's been raining all day, but I should be able to get pictures and an idea tomorrow. __________________ 67 K-10 8ft step 250/465/timken 4 shaft/373 to 1 70 C-10 Panel Vortec V/5spd BW od /307 to 1 70 C-30 9ft stepside dump 350/465/ posi and a few too many other trucks, cars, jeeps, cruisiers, and M/Cs ...o~`o

05-02-2005, 05:19 PM	#8
chief bobber Sanity is a state of mind Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Humpshire Posts: 93	mjimn, Checked it out about five minutes back and it's toast. Sorry! Here is a picture of what I have. Just for ha ha's was it the correct piece? Attached Images __________________ 67 K-10 8ft step 250/465/timken 4 shaft/373 to 1 70 C-10 Panel Vortec V/5spd BW od /307 to 1 70 C-30 9ft stepside dump 350/465/ posi and a few too many other trucks, cars, jeeps, cruisiers, and M/Cs ...o~`o

04-29-2005, 11:00 PM	#3
mjrmn '67 K10 Work In Process Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Delano MN Posts: 163	Sorry--yes I mean the steering box-please let me know if you have one and how much you want for it THANKS!

04-30-2005, 06:47 PM	#5
mjrmn '67 K10 Work In Process Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Delano MN Posts: 163	Yes I have adjusted it but it still has alot of play and as a bonus I now have the turning radius of a Greyhound bus.

04-30-2005, 08:19 PM	#7
mjrmn '67 K10 Work In Process Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Delano MN Posts: 163	Great-thanks for taking the time to look!

05-02-2005, 05:38 PM	#9
mjrmn '67 K10 Work In Process Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Delano MN Posts: 163	Yup-that looks like the correct piece to me--too bad its toast but I appreciate you taking the tome to check it out!

05-02-2005, 07:17 PM	#10
chief bobber Sanity is a state of mind Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Humpshire Posts: 93	Ah, twas an easy thing to do. It would figure that a 38 year old 4X4 piece might be worn to crap. It would seem that you could rebuild one of these or up grade to something newer. Have you checked a search in the suspension section? I will check this weekend (if it's dry) in me old parts stash. You never know what kind of jewels might surface. At any rate good luck......... __________________ 67 K-10 8ft step 250/465/timken 4 shaft/373 to 1 70 C-10 Panel Vortec V/5spd BW od /307 to 1 70 C-30 9ft stepside dump 350/465/ posi and a few too many other trucks, cars, jeeps, cruisiers, and M/Cs ...o~`o

05-02-2005, 07:19 PM	#11
chief bobber Sanity is a state of mind Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Humpshire Posts: 93	PS thanks for the ID as it reinforces the fact that I have a 67 4x4 chassis under my 70 panel __________________ 67 K-10 8ft step 250/465/timken 4 shaft/373 to 1 70 C-10 Panel Vortec V/5spd BW od /307 to 1 70 C-30 9ft stepside dump 350/465/ posi and a few too many other trucks, cars, jeeps, cruisiers, and M/Cs ...o~`o

05-02-2005, 09:50 PM	#12
mjrmn '67 K10 Work In Process Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Delano MN Posts: 163	Thanks again for takin' the time to look. I have tried the local parts stores to get a price on a new unit but none of their books go back further than '68. As for upgrading, my understanding is the '67 frame is not "dimpled" to accept a newer box and I dont know if I want to attempt to space one away from the frame or "dimple" my frame to make one fit. I am afraid I will screw up the steering geometry and make it worse than it is. As a side note, you said you have a '67 frame under your '70 panel? I would be interested in seeing some pictures of that vehicle. How is the ride quality? Do you have four wheel drum brakes or have you found a way to upgrade to front or rear disk? I have been considering swapping my '67 body onto a 90's+ frame to get the better suspension and brakes (I have already swapped a TBI 350 for the original 283) but I like the solid front axle.

05-02-2005, 11:53 PM	#13
chief bobber Sanity is a state of mind Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Humpshire Posts: 93	I didn't do this vehicle, but I can tell you about it. The PO swapped in a 71-72 set of axles, but the guy was a bit challenged after he got that far. First thing he did wrong was to swap in a set of 73+ front springs which moves the axle back about 1 1/2", then the fact that a 67 Steering box will not work with the later steering linkage probably ended it for him. I am going to remove this frame and install a 2wd frame, but I intend on using this frame to build another truck. To remedy the steering box (on the 4x4), I will install a 86 4x4 blazer box I pulled at a local junker for $20. I will most likely dimple the frame myself. The easier thing to do is to find a section of 68-72 frame from the bumper mount back past the steering box to a likely spot and weld it in. As far as installing a 90s frame unless you are pretty talented and the frame contours are VERY CLOSE, you could get in deep real quick. Most times it's easier to install the later components into the proper frame for your truck. That is my intention with my 2wd frame to achieve a respectable amount of gas mileage. I have already purchased a 5 Spd from a 87 Z28 5.7 and I intend on added a very late 5.3 V8 with all the computer stuff. I need to look into 80s style front end pieces. There is certainly enough information here on the boards to help anyone though whatever process that is decided upon. Good luck, KC __________________ 67 K-10 8ft step 250/465/timken 4 shaft/373 to 1 70 C-10 Panel Vortec V/5spd BW od /307 to 1 70 C-30 9ft stepside dump 350/465/ posi and a few too many other trucks, cars, jeeps, cruisiers, and M/Cs ...o~`o

05-03-2005, 12:05 AM	#14
teeitup Just like to part out trucks!! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Meriden, Ks-North of Topeka 10 miles Posts: 27,396	I may have one out there, I'll have to look Tuesday evening __________________ 67 Chev swb stepside 4x4 283 4 speed SOLD 72 blazer 4x4 4 speed Cheyenne 72 GMC swb 4x4 fleet 4 speed, original paint 1958 Cameo (one of 1405 built, it was my dads) 2020 chevy Apex 4x4 crew cab 1969 Z28 with the 302 1980 chevy swb 4x4 1964 chevell Malibu SS 1976 K20, sold new originally out of my dads chevy dealership Members that I've met, over 200 probably closer to 300 in the 12 years I've been on this site, everyone I met "It was a pleasure"

05-03-2005, 04:16 PM	#15
chief bobber Sanity is a state of mind Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Humpshire Posts: 93	I forgot to mention that you probably have a closed (ball & socket) front end and I'm not sure what will work for a steering box, as the 67 box has the pitman coming out of the side while the later boxes come out of the bottom. __________________ 67 K-10 8ft step 250/465/timken 4 shaft/373 to 1 70 C-10 Panel Vortec V/5spd BW od /307 to 1 70 C-30 9ft stepside dump 350/465/ posi and a few too many other trucks, cars, jeeps, cruisiers, and M/Cs ...o~`o



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05-04-2005, 10:57 PM	#16
teeitup Just like to part out trucks!! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Meriden, Ks-North of Topeka 10 miles Posts: 27,396	I got one on a 67 4x4 out there, it seems tight but can't really tell till I get it off and that will be next week sometime. $75 plus shipping, Thanks Randy __________________ 67 Chev swb stepside 4x4 283 4 speed SOLD 72 blazer 4x4 4 speed Cheyenne 72 GMC swb 4x4 fleet 4 speed, original paint 1958 Cameo (one of 1405 built, it was my dads) 2020 chevy Apex 4x4 crew cab 1969 Z28 with the 302 1980 chevy swb 4x4 1964 chevell Malibu SS 1976 K20, sold new originally out of my dads chevy dealership Members that I've met, over 200 probably closer to 300 in the 12 years I've been on this site, everyone I met "It was a pleasure"

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