Got my cab back. Just had it dipped! - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

silvertonguedevil · 05-23-2005, 09:03 PM

Here are a couple of pics. I threw in some "before and after" shots.

silvertonguedevil · 05-23-2005, 09:04 PM

some more...

71HUGGER396 · 05-23-2005, 09:05 PM

Wow, is that clean. Looks like a great way to start a project.

silvertonguedevil · 05-23-2005, 09:05 PM

and some more...

silvertonguedevil · 05-23-2005, 09:06 PM

Everyone told me to post a lot of pics so here they are...

silvertonguedevil · 05-23-2005, 09:07 PM

and finally...

*Randy70C-10* · 05-23-2005, 09:07 PM

Nice, that cab is a cream puff dude!! (it's going to make one sweet ride)

1968GMC · 05-23-2005, 09:08 PM

exelent looks cool. Got anny pics of underneath the floor?

silvertonguedevil · 05-23-2005, 09:08 PM

Nothin' like finding a whole bunch of rust that I didn't know about

71-longbed · 05-23-2005, 09:19 PM

that looks amazing ... really interesting to see how it cleaned up ... my floor and rockers would be swiss cheese if i got mine dipped ...

chipflyer · 05-23-2005, 10:30 PM

I like the looks of that also but you better get a sealer on it quick or she will turn brown on you! Excellant way to start a new project!

67ChevyC10Stepside · 05-23-2005, 10:45 PM

dipped in what? why is everything discolored? how much does that cost?

Longhorn Man · 05-23-2005, 10:51 PM

One thing to remember, the space inbetween the inner and outer roof....it'll need something in there or it'll rust like mad, same between the inner and outer back wall and way up under the dash.

If I dipped mine, all that'd come out of the acid would be a cab roof.

68w/sbc406 · 05-23-2005, 10:55 PM

love the blocks

chevyfarmer · 05-24-2005, 08:00 AM

Looks great! However, I agree with chipflyer, get that baby sealed QUICK!! Surface rust will begin to form in 4 hours or less depending upon conditions.

silvertonguedevil · 05-24-2005, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by chipflyer

I like the looks of that also but you better get a sealer on it quick or she will turn brown on you! Excellant way to start a new project!

A buddy of mine and I will be priming it in the next couple of weeks. It's setting in my garage so it will be fine until then.

silvertonguedevil · 05-24-2005, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 67ChevyC10Stepside

dipped in what? why is everything discolored? how much does that cost?

It was dipped in a large tank of acid. It eats everything but just the good metal. All paint, rust and bondo are gone. It cost me about $850. I'm not real sure about the discoloring. I was surprised to see that too. It either was some sort of a chemical reaction or......?

silvertonguedevil · 05-24-2005, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Longhorn Man

One thing to remember, the space inbetween the inner and outer roof....it'll need something in there or it'll rust like mad, same between the inner and outer back wall and way up under the dash.

If I dipped mine, all that'd come out of the acid would be a cab roof.

There's really no way of getting in there. I figure that they were never coated or painted from the factory and I don't plan on driving this thing on anything other than sunny days. Sure it will rust some, but it wont rust as badly or as fast as it did from the factory. As long as outlasts me....

I do plan on getting primer in every nook and cranny I can possibly get to.

67-Cowboy · 05-24-2005, 09:43 AM

What they are trying to tell you is, "yes it started rusting the minute they took it out of the Vat". If you are going to wait to prime it you better get a good Sanitizer and clean it up first otherwise you are sealing in rust everywhere and are worse off than when you started. Also those inside places did have a type of coating on them from the Factory thats why they lasted this long. Is this Vat in the Portland area ?

silvertonguedevil · 05-24-2005, 09:57 AM

I've read that only some factories would dip the lower 6-12 inches of the cab in a rust-proofing solution. Nowhere have I read anything about doing the whole cab. Yes, I had it done here in Portland.

Longhorn Man · 05-24-2005, 07:13 PM

I've alwasy been told that the metal was treated too, but never seen any documentation. I find it hard to believe that the thin sheet metal would last this long without anything on it. I sand blasted some parts, and placed them in the house (A/C on...it was summer) and it had some rust on it within 2 weeks. 6 months later when i finally got around to messin with the stuff, I had to sand blast it again.
Most likley, after dipping it and rinsing it all off, they hosed it down with an anti flash rust spray, most places do this, but it is a temparary coating. Even our parts washer at the shop (think HUGE dish washer) has anti flash rust stuff in the water.
The primer you use, make sure it is a sealer, otherwise, the primer will absorb water from the air and cause rust.
And, for the tight spots I mentioned earlier, you should be able to use a wand and get 99% of the metal covered. Spray undercoating in there and it'll act like insulation. and protect the metal.

silvertonguedevil · 05-24-2005, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longhorn Man

The primer you use, make sure it is a sealer, otherwise, the primer will absorb water from the air and cause rust.

Do you think I would still need to use a sealer given that it's going to be staying inside my garage? I of course will apply sealer when I'm finishing it off (before painting).

Longhorn Man · 05-24-2005, 09:24 PM

In highschool, i took auto body at the vocational school. We had a Monte Carlo SS in there at the end of my Jr year. The dvr 1/4 panel had been sanded town to bare metal and covered with quite a bit of Du Pont Primer. I can't remember what we used, but I am sure it was the cheaper stuff....plublic school funding doesn't allow for good paints.
When we came back to school the begining of our Sr year, the 1/4 panel was about 50% covered with rust. It had not started pitting yet, but it was getting heavy.
The car had stayed in the shop, and since there was no engine, I know no one took it out or anything.

Swbman · 05-24-2005, 09:31 PM

Man, dipping in acid really brings everything to the light, I would be afraid to have a few the trucks I have done like that for fear they would fall apart, Great Job, looks like a lot of work ahead of you,and I would definitely get some kinda sealer on it dispite the fact its going to be in your garage,the northwest has rain,and that translates into humidity,so it doesnt have to get wet to get the patina thing going.Hate to see you have do double work.

Mongo · 05-24-2005, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by silvertonguedevil

Do you think I would still need to use a sealer given that it's going to be staying inside my garage? I of course will apply sealer when I'm finishing it off (before painting).

silvertonguedevil, If you got it dipped at the place where I think you did ( off of or near vanvouver way) They did a sort of basic seal to the cab. as long as you keep the cab from the elements you will be fine. It's been a while sense I have seen the process done but I think it goes something like this dip the cab in a nitric (or is it HCl?) bath then nuteralizer, rinse and finaly a sealer.

Oh by the way the cab looks great!

05-23-2005, 09:03 PM	#1
silvertonguedevil Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Seaside, Oregon Posts: 1,789	Got my cab back. Just had it dipped! Here are a couple of pics. I threw in some "before and after" shots. Attached Images __________________ -Greg My Chevy trucks, past and present: 1962 C10 SB Fleetside 1964 C10 LB Fleetside BBW 1966 C10 SB Fleetside 1966 C10 SB Fleetside BBW 1968 C10 SB Fleetside 1971 C10 LB Fleetside 1971 C10 SB Fleetside 1972 C10 SB Fleetside Cheyenne 1972 C10 SB Fleetside Cheyenne Super 1972 C10 LB Fleetside Cheyenne Super 1974 C20 Cheyenne 1979 K5 Blazer Cheyenne 1982 K10 SB Fleetside Custom Deluxe 1982 K10 SB Fleetside Scottsdale 1986 C10 SB Fleetside Silverado 2008 Silverado 1500 4x4

05-23-2005, 09:04 PM	#2
silvertonguedevil Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Seaside, Oregon Posts: 1,789	some more... Attached Images __________________ -Greg My Chevy trucks, past and present: 1962 C10 SB Fleetside 1964 C10 LB Fleetside BBW 1966 C10 SB Fleetside 1966 C10 SB Fleetside BBW 1968 C10 SB Fleetside 1971 C10 LB Fleetside 1971 C10 SB Fleetside 1972 C10 SB Fleetside Cheyenne 1972 C10 SB Fleetside Cheyenne Super 1972 C10 LB Fleetside Cheyenne Super 1974 C20 Cheyenne 1979 K5 Blazer Cheyenne 1982 K10 SB Fleetside Custom Deluxe 1982 K10 SB Fleetside Scottsdale 1986 C10 SB Fleetside Silverado 2008 Silverado 1500 4x4

05-23-2005, 09:05 PM	#3
71HUGGER396 Confirmed Truckaholic Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Sarver,PA 16055 Posts: 732	Wow, is that clean. Looks like a great way to start a project. __________________ 1968 50th STEP SIDE SHORTY, 350/350, a/c, ps, p,b Daily Driver, 1970 Cst short fleet, all black, 350/350, 1970 2wd Blazer, 2wd, 6 cyl. 3 spd, original, now a 454, 350turbo, 3.73 posi, on the road 1971 2wd fleet shorty, 454, 700r4, 3.73 posi, SOLD to 67OLDSTYLE72 "My rig's a little old but that don't mean she's slow" - SAWYER BROWN's Six Days On The Road SEMPER FI "I use to be a lean mean fighting machine, but now I'm a huffin, puffin, over stuffin love muffin"

05-23-2005, 09:05 PM	#4
silvertonguedevil Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Seaside, Oregon Posts: 1,789	and some more... Attached Images __________________ -Greg My Chevy trucks, past and present: 1962 C10 SB Fleetside 1964 C10 LB Fleetside BBW 1966 C10 SB Fleetside 1966 C10 SB Fleetside BBW 1968 C10 SB Fleetside 1971 C10 LB Fleetside 1971 C10 SB Fleetside 1972 C10 SB Fleetside Cheyenne 1972 C10 SB Fleetside Cheyenne Super 1972 C10 LB Fleetside Cheyenne Super 1974 C20 Cheyenne 1979 K5 Blazer Cheyenne 1982 K10 SB Fleetside Custom Deluxe 1982 K10 SB Fleetside Scottsdale 1986 C10 SB Fleetside Silverado 2008 Silverado 1500 4x4

05-23-2005, 09:06 PM	#5
silvertonguedevil Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Seaside, Oregon Posts: 1,789	Everyone told me to post a lot of pics so here they are... Attached Images __________________ -Greg My Chevy trucks, past and present: 1962 C10 SB Fleetside 1964 C10 LB Fleetside BBW 1966 C10 SB Fleetside 1966 C10 SB Fleetside BBW 1968 C10 SB Fleetside 1971 C10 LB Fleetside 1971 C10 SB Fleetside 1972 C10 SB Fleetside Cheyenne 1972 C10 SB Fleetside Cheyenne Super 1972 C10 LB Fleetside Cheyenne Super 1974 C20 Cheyenne 1979 K5 Blazer Cheyenne 1982 K10 SB Fleetside Custom Deluxe 1982 K10 SB Fleetside Scottsdale 1986 C10 SB Fleetside Silverado 2008 Silverado 1500 4x4

05-23-2005, 09:07 PM	#6
silvertonguedevil Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Seaside, Oregon Posts: 1,789	and finally... Attached Images __________________ -Greg My Chevy trucks, past and present: 1962 C10 SB Fleetside 1964 C10 LB Fleetside BBW 1966 C10 SB Fleetside 1966 C10 SB Fleetside BBW 1968 C10 SB Fleetside 1971 C10 LB Fleetside 1971 C10 SB Fleetside 1972 C10 SB Fleetside Cheyenne 1972 C10 SB Fleetside Cheyenne Super 1972 C10 LB Fleetside Cheyenne Super 1974 C20 Cheyenne 1979 K5 Blazer Cheyenne 1982 K10 SB Fleetside Custom Deluxe 1982 K10 SB Fleetside Scottsdale 1986 C10 SB Fleetside Silverado 2008 Silverado 1500 4x4 Last edited by silvertonguedevil; 05-23-2005 at 09:07 PM.

05-23-2005, 09:07 PM	#7
Randy70C-10 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Virginia Beach, Va. U.S.A. Posts: 15,320	Nice, that cab is a cream puff dude!! (it's going to make one sweet ride)

05-23-2005, 09:08 PM	#8
1968GMC love my truck Join Date: May 2001 Location: aylmer QC Posts: 648	exelent looks cool. Got anny pics of underneath the floor? Last edited by 1968GMC; 05-23-2005 at 09:11 PM.

05-23-2005, 09:19 PM	#10
71-longbed Its Magically Delicious Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: oregon Posts: 2,398	that looks amazing ... really interesting to see how it cleaned up ... my floor and rockers would be swiss cheese if i got mine dipped ... __________________ 71 C10 LWB 350sbc -TH350 12 bolt 3.42 Posi Of all my favorite things to do, The utmost is to have a brew. My love grows for my foamy friend, with each thirst-quenching elbow bend. Beer so frosty, smooth, and cold it's paradise pure liquid gold. Yes beer means many things to me that's all for now cus I gotta pee.

05-23-2005, 10:30 PM	#11
chipflyer Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Topeka, Ks Posts: 2,293	I like the looks of that also but you better get a sealer on it quick or she will turn brown on you! Excellant way to start a new project! __________________ I'm not a pessimist, I'm just optimistic that bad things are going to happen. 1971 Cheyenne Super K10 - tilt, cruise, air, am/fm, tow hooks, factory buckets! 1986 Jeep J10 pickup, - 5.3L Vortec with 4L60e and NP241.

05-23-2005, 10:45 PM	#12
67ChevyC10Stepside Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Butler PA Posts: 3,034	dipped in what? why is everything discolored? how much does that cost? __________________ 67 c-10, 400 SB, TH350, 4.10 gears, Blazer tank,camaro tach, sidemarker fuel fill (soon) WTB: stepside parts, 67 front end parts, 67 small window cab. posi for 3.73 or 4.10 for 12 bolt and 10 bolt.

05-23-2005, 10:51 PM	#13
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	One thing to remember, the space inbetween the inner and outer roof....it'll need something in there or it'll rust like mad, same between the inner and outer back wall and way up under the dash. If I dipped mine, all that'd come out of the acid would be a cab roof.

05-23-2005, 10:55 PM	#14
68w/sbc406 Got Light Emitting Diode? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Newberg, OR Posts: 2,485	love the blocks __________________ 1968 1/2 ton 2wd lwb 6 lug disc and bags up front. Next c notch and rear bags '02 Chevy Silverado LT ext cab short bed 2WD 5/7 drop on 22's(the family car) 1993 Cherokee work ride/weekend wheeler

05-24-2005, 08:00 AM	#15
chevyfarmer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Owosso, Mi Posts: 242	Looks great! However, I agree with chipflyer, get that baby sealed QUICK!! Surface rust will begin to form in 4 hours or less depending upon conditions. __________________ 67 short wide 355ci 3 on tree 69 short wide 250ci 3 on tree 68 long wide 283 3 on tree 72 2wd Blazer project 454 5 speed

05-24-2005, 09:43 AM	#19
67-Cowboy Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Salem, Oregon U. S. of A. Posts: 69	What they are trying to tell you is, "yes it started rusting the minute they took it out of the Vat". If you are going to wait to prime it you better get a good Sanitizer and clean it up first otherwise you are sealing in rust everywhere and are worse off than when you started. Also those inside places did have a type of coating on them from the Factory thats why they lasted this long. Is this Vat in the Portland area ?



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05-24-2005, 09:57 AM	#20
silvertonguedevil Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Seaside, Oregon Posts: 1,789	I've read that only some factories would dip the lower 6-12 inches of the cab in a rust-proofing solution. Nowhere have I read anything about doing the whole cab. Yes, I had it done here in Portland. __________________ -Greg My Chevy trucks, past and present: 1962 C10 SB Fleetside 1964 C10 LB Fleetside BBW 1966 C10 SB Fleetside 1966 C10 SB Fleetside BBW 1968 C10 SB Fleetside 1971 C10 LB Fleetside 1971 C10 SB Fleetside 1972 C10 SB Fleetside Cheyenne 1972 C10 SB Fleetside Cheyenne Super 1972 C10 LB Fleetside Cheyenne Super 1974 C20 Cheyenne 1979 K5 Blazer Cheyenne 1982 K10 SB Fleetside Custom Deluxe 1982 K10 SB Fleetside Scottsdale 1986 C10 SB Fleetside Silverado 2008 Silverado 1500 4x4

05-24-2005, 07:13 PM	#21
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	I've alwasy been told that the metal was treated too, but never seen any documentation. I find it hard to believe that the thin sheet metal would last this long without anything on it. I sand blasted some parts, and placed them in the house (A/C on...it was summer) and it had some rust on it within 2 weeks. 6 months later when i finally got around to messin with the stuff, I had to sand blast it again. Most likley, after dipping it and rinsing it all off, they hosed it down with an anti flash rust spray, most places do this, but it is a temparary coating. Even our parts washer at the shop (think HUGE dish washer) has anti flash rust stuff in the water. The primer you use, make sure it is a sealer, otherwise, the primer will absorb water from the air and cause rust. And, for the tight spots I mentioned earlier, you should be able to use a wand and get 99% of the metal covered. Spray undercoating in there and it'll act like insulation. and protect the metal.

05-24-2005, 09:24 PM	#23
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	In highschool, i took auto body at the vocational school. We had a Monte Carlo SS in there at the end of my Jr year. The dvr 1/4 panel had been sanded town to bare metal and covered with quite a bit of Du Pont Primer. I can't remember what we used, but I am sure it was the cheaper stuff....plublic school funding doesn't allow for good paints. When we came back to school the begining of our Sr year, the 1/4 panel was about 50% covered with rust. It had not started pitting yet, but it was getting heavy. The car had stayed in the shop, and since there was no engine, I know no one took it out or anything.

05-24-2005, 09:31 PM	#24
Swbman Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Tulsa,Oklahoma Posts: 606	Man, dipping in acid really brings everything to the light, I would be afraid to have a few the trucks I have done like that for fear they would fall apart, Great Job, looks like a lot of work ahead of you,and I would definitely get some kinda sealer on it dispite the fact its going to be in your garage,the northwest has rain,and that translates into humidity,so it doesnt have to get wet to get the patina thing going.Hate to see you have do double work. __________________ 1961 BUICK LESABRE 1968 CHEVELLE SS 396 1969 BUICK RIVIERA GS 1971 2 WHEEL DRIVE BLAZER 1971 4X4 BLAZER 1971 SHORTBED CHEYENNE FLEETSIDE 1971 SHORTBED 4X4 FLEETSIDE ** ...My Ebay

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