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Lobo'74 · 07-03-2005, 08:50 PM

Just took the truck out for a spin. Coming back home the shifter wouldn't come out of first. When I forced it a bit (VERY stiff) I could get it to neutral, but it sounded like the grinding of a non-syncromesh trying to shift. I couldn't get it into second. I was in my neighborhood and got it home in first but had a little trouble parking since it wouldn't go into reverse either.

So, how can I tell if it is the shifter gone bad (that's gotta be rare) or tranny gone bad? Its an all syncro three speed fron a '79. The shifter is an old school Fenton.

fastwillie 696969 · 07-03-2005, 09:15 PM

i had a problem with my 3 spd shifter as well it felt real sloppy but mine was 2 nd gear
so i went a bought a new shifter from pep boys for 40 bucks and now it shifts real smooth

Lobo'74 · 07-04-2005, 09:17 AM

I hope its just the shifter, but mine feels like its bound up. I is very difficult to get it out of first and you can't get it into any other gear.

Just prior to this I was teaching my son to drive a stick shift. A little rough, but nothing bad enough to cause any damage.

70GMCer · 07-04-2005, 12:14 PM

My 3spd on the column used to do that until I changed the linkage bushings.......

fastwillie 696969 · 07-04-2005, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 70blowngmc

i had a problem with my 3 spd shifter as well it felt real sloppy but mine was 2 nd gear
so i went a bought a new shifter from pep boys for 40 bucks and now it shifts real smooth

by the way mines was a floor shifter not colum

TN70C10 · 07-04-2005, 04:39 PM

Mine used to bind up all the time between 1st and 2nd and I would have to get under the truck and reset the linkage. It pretty much does it every single time I tried to shift to fast. It wouldnt come all the way out of first before starting to engage 2nd and therefore hang up. I just quit shifting it fast, especially in the rain.

fastwillie 696969 · 07-04-2005, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TN70C10

Mine used to bind up all the time between 1st and 2nd and I would have to get under the truck and reset the linkage. It pretty much does it every single time I tried to shift to fast. It wouldnt come all the way out of first before starting to engage 2nd and therefore hang up. I just quit shifting it fast, especially in the rain.

try tighten up the shifter assy bolts

Chevyboy1962 · 07-05-2005, 02:20 AM

Just curious, did this start happening after driving for a bit, or the whole time while driving? I would check the fluid in the manual trans to see if it's low on gear oil. Mine was real low on mine when I first drove my truck home, and the syncro's, gears, etc got hot, and could not get it out of first gear, until the trans was cold, the next morning I went out to the truck, and it shifted fine.
Then again, it could also be shift linkage, clutch, or clutch needs adjustment.

I've also had problems with the Hurst indy floor 3 speed shifter, it would hang up, but would lock the trans with the rear end.

I fixed this with new bushings, and tightened the base of the shift kit assembly.
David

Lobo'74 · 07-07-2005, 02:52 PM

Chevyboy1962

It happened after driving it for 20 minutes or so . . . With my son trying to gain proficiency on a manual tranny so it was rough at times.

I will check the manual trans fluid. Clutch has been slipping some lately. Not too bad, no smell or burnt clutch or anything, just slow to fully engage when getting on it (ie: I can't smoke the tires at will like I used to be able to).

07-03-2005, 08:50 PM	#1
Lobo'74 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Charlottesville, VA Posts: 404	Shifter or tranny? Just took the truck out for a spin. Coming back home the shifter wouldn't come out of first. When I forced it a bit (VERY stiff) I could get it to neutral, but it sounded like the grinding of a non-syncromesh trying to shift. I couldn't get it into second. I was in my neighborhood and got it home in first but had a little trouble parking since it wouldn't go into reverse either. So, how can I tell if it is the shifter gone bad (that's gotta be rare) or tranny gone bad? Its an all syncro three speed fron a '79. The shifter is an old school Fenton. __________________ "Truck" '67 small window '79 350 .030 over, LT1 "clone"

07-03-2005, 09:15 PM	#2
fastwillie 696969 ~Rest In Peace~ Join Date: May 2005 Location: CALIFORNIA NOR CAL Posts: 9,707	i had a problem with my 3 spd shifter as well it felt real sloppy but mine was 2 nd gear so i went a bought a new shifter from pep boys for 40 bucks and now it shifts real smooth __________________ is it fast ? it has a lighting bolt donut? B___H please, I can remove 90% of your so called "beauty" with a kleenex

07-04-2005, 09:17 AM	#3
Lobo'74 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Charlottesville, VA Posts: 404	I hope its just the shifter, but mine feels like its bound up. I is very difficult to get it out of first and you can't get it into any other gear. Just prior to this I was teaching my son to drive a stick shift. A little rough, but nothing bad enough to cause any damage. __________________ "Truck" '67 small window '79 350 .030 over, LT1 "clone"

07-04-2005, 12:14 PM	#4
70GMCer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Joppa, Maryland Posts: 4,408	My 3spd on the column used to do that until I changed the linkage bushings....... __________________ 1997 GMC Sierra Ext 1965 Mustang

07-05-2005, 02:20 AM	#8
Chevyboy1962 C10 now is a GMC Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Modesto, Ca Posts: 740	Just curious, did this start happening after driving for a bit, or the whole time while driving? I would check the fluid in the manual trans to see if it's low on gear oil. Mine was real low on mine when I first drove my truck home, and the syncro's, gears, etc got hot, and could not get it out of first gear, until the trans was cold, the next morning I went out to the truck, and it shifted fine. Then again, it could also be shift linkage, clutch, or clutch needs adjustment. I've also had problems with the Hurst indy floor 3 speed shifter, it would hang up, but would lock the trans with the rear end. I fixed this with new bushings, and tightened the base of the shift kit assembly. David __________________ 1962 C10 swb fleetside, big window, custom cab 350/TH350 combo...Hot Rod 1963 C10 lwb fleetside, small window 230/4 speed...Blvd Cruiser *1931 Ford 5 window coupe (soon to be Hot Rod)... Father & Son project

07-04-2005, 04:39 PM	#6
TN70C10 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Chattanooga TN Posts: 115	Mine used to bind up all the time between 1st and 2nd and I would have to get under the truck and reset the linkage. It pretty much does it every single time I tried to shift to fast. It wouldnt come all the way out of first before starting to engage 2nd and therefore hang up. I just quit shifting it fast, especially in the rain.

07-07-2005, 02:52 PM	#9
Lobo'74 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Charlottesville, VA Posts: 404	Chevyboy1962 It happened after driving it for 20 minutes or so . . . With my son trying to gain proficiency on a manual tranny so it was rough at times. I will check the manual trans fluid. Clutch has been slipping some lately. Not too bad, no smell or burnt clutch or anything, just slow to fully engage when getting on it (ie: I can't smoke the tires at will like I used to be able to). __________________ "Truck" '67 small window '79 350 .030 over, LT1 "clone"



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