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Rokcrln · 07-06-2005, 09:38 PM

I have been thinking of this for awhile now and with my new shop at home I have the room for bigger projects. I have the skills and have way more tools than it could ever need but still want to see a few first. I have checked around for hinge kits and found some good stuff at http://www.*****************/ They have full kits and the bead bolt kits as well. I am sure their are alot of other places out their so lets see some pic's and links. If you have them some pro's and con's would help as well.

Kevin

Rokcrln · 07-07-2005, 06:32 PM

64 lookers and nothing to add! Is their another section I should post this in? I am new to the board so I have not found all the right avenues yet. Things should get better once the search is back up.
Kevin

NSANE68!!! · 07-07-2005, 06:42 PM

Make sure you use the correct hinge or you will not achieve a full 45 degree swing. A couple other members found this out the hard way.
Me I used a hinge off of a Jeep Grand cherokee mid 70's where the door swings out from the fender not into it. Pics should help.
The pics show what I accomplished with about 4 hrs fab work, then my son was born and I never touched it again. Been 16 months now. I will finish someday

Rokcrln · 07-07-2005, 06:51 PM

NSANE68!! Off to a great start! You did mean to say full 90* open right? 45* does not seam like enough. As far as hinges I was looking into a full kit they seam to allow for a bit more adjustment and seam to be over built. Two things I look for, but next time I am at the pick-n-pull I will look around abit at the jeeps. What kind of latch do you plan on using? Are you going to add a dead bolt latch as well. I am thinking I will add electric bead bolt latches with pin switches activated in the full closed mod that will turn off a small LED on the dash for a little piece of mind when I am flying down the freeway at 120+.

Kevin

NSANE68!!! · 07-08-2005, 10:32 AM

That kit is the one they had probs with. Look at my second pic, see how the hinge has that curve bend. The guys that used the kit like the one you show had to modify it quite a bit, and yes I ment 90 the kit you show will only get ya a 45 though without mods

Rokcrln · 07-08-2005, 12:47 PM

Sweat that the kind of info I need. Any more picks of your truck on the board any where? I think I may hit the P-N-P on Saturday. Don't feel bad about not getting to your truck in a while. Mine has been sitting for about two years now but should be out in the work bay of the shop in the next few months. I have one project to complete then a major orginizing of the shop is need to get the truck out and start. So for now it is just collect parts and info so when that day comes it will all be layed out.

In this pic if you look real close under that storage rack you can just see the front of my hood. Had to clean out my 10x20 storage unit last month and that is were it all ended up.

Kevin

pbmcauliffe · 07-08-2005, 02:49 PM

[thread hijack on] Nice EB, how much is the front narrowed, or is it just picture angle & what n20 & oil levels you using with the FOX struts? I have a customers EB coming in to narrow the whole thing and the FOX struts which I tune a lot of just curious what yours are at?[thread hijack off]

Patrick

Rokcrln · 07-08-2005, 03:48 PM

Not a problem~ It is 20" at the grill and 10" at the A & B post area (if the posts were still their) and then 20" at the gate. I have not filled the shocks yet so I am no help at all for that. Here is a pic of the front.

Kevin

Rokcrln · 07-08-2005, 03:51 PM

And just to show off here is the EB before it was parted out and the buggy begain. This is the kind of 4x4 toys I build in my play time!

Kevin

stllookn · 07-08-2005, 04:08 PM

Kevin, I wish I could get my dog to do that. It is embarassing to have him relieve himself like a female dog. I will print a picture of that F**d and hold it in front of him so he will get the idea.

BTW...love the buggy!

Rokcrln · 07-08-2005, 07:38 PM

Well I went to the local pick n pull today and they only had 1 jeep waggy and it was an 83 and only had teh 45* door hinges on it. I will do some reserch and find out what years do what.

NSANE68~ Are your hinges thick steel? In the picks they have a look of formed sheet metal type hinges that is why I was leaning tward the suicidedoors product. But after looking at the Waggy ones today I see they are real beefy. Do you have any pic's on what you did for adjustment?
Thanks,

Kevin

bagged91 · 07-08-2005, 08:48 PM

Rokcrln - That Bronco is F-n NASTY! I like it as a buggy too but I would have donated my left nut for that truck. Nice articulation there!!!

L8R - Joe

Rokcrln · 07-08-2005, 11:22 PM

Thanks, I sold most of the parts off it and used the $ for tubbing and parts to build the buggy. I have been building custom rigs for people for years and doing roll cages, lifts, lowering, tube chasies, custom suspention.... Well I felt it was time to build myself a full custom rig. Then I just bought a super clean stock Bronco for the street.

Kevin

nitor · 07-08-2005, 11:34 PM

NSANE68!!!, that's a "J" series Cherokee right?

Rokcrln · 07-09-2005, 01:34 PM

Back in the mid 70's did they have cherokee's or were they waganiers? I may be thinking the wrong vehical all together

Kevin

1STtimePRo'71 · 07-09-2005, 02:39 PM

In the 70's there was the Cherokee and The Wagoneer. They both look identical but the cherokee's had only 2 doors. The wagoneers all had 4. Then there were the J-Series pickups....but thats another story. I've owned my fair share of Jeeps and I think that the doors on my "newer" Cherokee opened quite a bit farther that my "old" cherokee. By old I mean the old "S" series ones. The "newer" one was an 87 and the doors opened well close to perpendicular to the body. Wish I had one left, I just sold the last of the ten Jeeps that I had.

Rokcrln · 07-09-2005, 04:15 PM

Thanks that makes sence since a two door you have to clime over the front to get to the back. It was a four door I looked at yesterday.

Kevin

XXL · 07-09-2005, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rokcrln

And just to show off here is the EB before it was parted out and the buggy begain. This is the kind of 4x4 toys I build in my play time!

You need to learn how to park!

BTW, what nsane said. Save your money on that "kit" and get some Jeep hinges.

First pic is with kit ( = hard to get into), second is with Jeep hinges ( = lots of swing).

Rokcrln · 07-09-2005, 08:19 PM

Yes the jeep hinge is the way I will go. When I first looked at Nsane's I thought they were punched out of sheet metal and would not be stronge enough. Once I saw the waggy one's yesterday I see now what they are. With the toys in my garage/shop I could built the kit ones very easy but I would rather spend my time doing other things. Any more pics out their?

Kevin

FRENCHBLUE72 · 07-09-2005, 11:44 PM

XXL is that your cab that is now blue I thought the doors opened regular style? Kevin nice e.b. nice to see more wheelers on this site here s my toy...

Rokcrln · 07-10-2005, 12:24 AM

Nice EXO but to much metal left on the side's

Kevin

07-06-2005, 09:38 PM	#1
Rokcrln Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Winters Ca. 95694 Posts: 4,843	Any suicide doors opening out their! I have been thinking of this for awhile now and with my new shop at home I have the room for bigger projects. I have the skills and have way more tools than it could ever need but still want to see a few first. I have checked around for hinge kits and found some good stuff at http://www.*****************/ They have full kits and the bead bolt kits as well. I am sure their are alot of other places out their so lets see some pic's and links. If you have them some pro's and con's would help as well. Kevin

07-07-2005, 06:42 PM	#3
NSANE68!!! SLICER AND DICIER Join Date: May 2001 Location: Quuen Creek Posts: 1,383	Make sure you use the correct hinge or you will not achieve a full 45 degree swing. A couple other members found this out the hard way. Me I used a hinge off of a Jeep Grand cherokee mid 70's where the door swings out from the fender not into it. Pics should help. The pics show what I accomplished with about 4 hrs fab work, then my son was born and I never touched it again. Been 16 months now. I will finish someday Attached Images __________________ 01 Tahoe 22's 2/4 drop and tv's 68 chevy money pit 51 chevy belair 95 Honda 900RR 05 GMC Siearra (company truck)

07-07-2005, 06:51 PM	#4
Rokcrln Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Winters Ca. 95694 Posts: 4,843	NSANE68!! Off to a great start! You did mean to say full 90* open right? 45* does not seam like enough. As far as hinges I was looking into a full kit they seam to allow for a bit more adjustment and seam to be over built. Two things I look for, but next time I am at the pick-n-pull I will look around abit at the jeeps. What kind of latch do you plan on using? Are you going to add a dead bolt latch as well. I am thinking I will add electric bead bolt latches with pin switches activated in the full closed mod that will turn off a small LED on the dash for a little piece of mind when I am flying down the freeway at 120+. Kevin Attached Images Last edited by Rokcrln; 07-07-2005 at 06:55 PM.

07-08-2005, 10:32 AM	#5
NSANE68!!! SLICER AND DICIER Join Date: May 2001 Location: Quuen Creek Posts: 1,383	That kit is the one they had probs with. Look at my second pic, see how the hinge has that curve bend. The guys that used the kit like the one you show had to modify it quite a bit, and yes I ment 90 the kit you show will only get ya a 45 though without mods __________________ 01 Tahoe 22's 2/4 drop and tv's 68 chevy money pit 51 chevy belair 95 Honda 900RR 05 GMC Siearra (company truck)

07-08-2005, 12:47 PM	#6
Rokcrln Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Winters Ca. 95694 Posts: 4,843	Sweat that the kind of info I need. Any more picks of your truck on the board any where? I think I may hit the P-N-P on Saturday. Don't feel bad about not getting to your truck in a while. Mine has been sitting for about two years now but should be out in the work bay of the shop in the next few months. I have one project to complete then a major orginizing of the shop is need to get the truck out and start. So for now it is just collect parts and info so when that day comes it will all be layed out. In this pic if you look real close under that storage rack you can just see the front of my hood. Had to clean out my 10x20 storage unit last month and that is were it all ended up. Kevin Attached Images

07-07-2005, 06:32 PM	#2
Rokcrln Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Winters Ca. 95694 Posts: 4,843	64 lookers and nothing to add! Is their another section I should post this in? I am new to the board so I have not found all the right avenues yet. Things should get better once the search is back up. Kevin

07-08-2005, 02:49 PM	#7
pbmcauliffe Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Bremerton, WA. Posts: 104	[thread hijack on] Nice EB, how much is the front narrowed, or is it just picture angle & what n20 & oil levels you using with the FOX struts? I have a customers EB coming in to narrow the whole thing and the FOX struts which I tune a lot of just curious what yours are at?[thread hijack off] Patrick

07-08-2005, 03:48 PM	#8
Rokcrln Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Winters Ca. 95694 Posts: 4,843	Not a problem~ It is 20" at the grill and 10" at the A & B post area (if the posts were still their) and then 20" at the gate. I have not filled the shocks yet so I am no help at all for that. Here is a pic of the front. Kevin Attached Images

07-08-2005, 03:51 PM	#9
Rokcrln Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Winters Ca. 95694 Posts: 4,843	And just to show off here is the EB before it was parted out and the buggy begain. This is the kind of 4x4 toys I build in my play time! Kevin Attached Images

07-08-2005, 04:08 PM	#10
stllookn Saving 1 truck at a time! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kent, WA Posts: 6,465	Kevin, I wish I could get my dog to do that. It is embarassing to have him relieve himself like a female dog. I will print a picture of that F*d and hold it in front of him so he will get the idea. BTW...love the buggy! __________________ '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 400/TH400 '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 468/TH400w/buckets '72 C20 Halfhorn (Longhorn w/o cab and front clip) '69 Flxible Cruiser (look up ugly in the dictionary) Last edited by stllookn; 07-08-2005 at 04:09 PM.*

07-08-2005, 07:38 PM	#11
Rokcrln Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Winters Ca. 95694 Posts: 4,843	Well I went to the local pick n pull today and they only had 1 jeep waggy and it was an 83 and only had teh 45* door hinges on it. I will do some reserch and find out what years do what. NSANE68~ Are your hinges thick steel? In the picks they have a look of formed sheet metal type hinges that is why I was leaning tward the suicidedoors product. But after looking at the Waggy ones today I see they are real beefy. Do you have any pic's on what you did for adjustment? Thanks, Kevin Last edited by Rokcrln; 07-08-2005 at 07:44 PM.

07-08-2005, 08:48 PM	#12
bagged91 Out draggin' Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Pitman,NJ Posts: 1,574	Rokcrln - That Bronco is F-n NASTY! I like it as a buggy too but I would have donated my left nut for that truck. Nice articulation there!!! L8R - Joe __________________ 91 GMC Xcab LB-Bags/bd/caddy clip SOLD 72 C10 Cheyenne Super LWB SOLD 92 GMC K1500 Burb 72 C10 Burb (ex. Cheesewagon)SOLD 72 C20 Burb parts truck 71 C10 Burb "project"

07-08-2005, 11:22 PM	#13
Rokcrln Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Winters Ca. 95694 Posts: 4,843	Thanks, I sold most of the parts off it and used the $ for tubbing and parts to build the buggy. I have been building custom rigs for people for years and doing roll cages, lifts, lowering, tube chasies, custom suspention.... Well I felt it was time to build myself a full custom rig. Then I just bought a super clean stock Bronco for the street. Kevin

07-08-2005, 11:34 PM	#14
nitor Too many projects Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Morrow, OH Posts: 344	NSANE68!!!, that's a "J" series Cherokee right? __________________ Jim '55 Chevrolet Pickup '56 Chevrolet Belair '04 Chevrolet Astro '95 Chevrolet Blazer

07-09-2005, 01:34 PM	#15
Rokcrln Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Winters Ca. 95694 Posts: 4,843	Back in the mid 70's did they have cherokee's or were they waganiers? I may be thinking the wrong vehical all together Kevin



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07-09-2005, 02:39 PM	#16
1STtimePRo'71 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Lake Crystal, MN Posts: 656	In the 70's there was the Cherokee and The Wagoneer. They both look identical but the cherokee's had only 2 doors. The wagoneers all had 4. Then there were the J-Series pickups....but thats another story. I've owned my fair share of Jeeps and I think that the doors on my "newer" Cherokee opened quite a bit farther that my "old" cherokee. By old I mean the old "S" series ones. The "newer" one was an 87 and the doors opened well close to perpendicular to the body. Wish I had one left, I just sold the last of the ten Jeeps that I had. __________________ -Cory 1967 2 Wheel Chevy

07-09-2005, 04:15 PM	#17
Rokcrln Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Winters Ca. 95694 Posts: 4,843	Thanks that makes sence since a two door you have to clime over the front to get to the back. It was a four door I looked at yesterday. Kevin

07-09-2005, 08:19 PM	#19
Rokcrln Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Winters Ca. 95694 Posts: 4,843	Yes the jeep hinge is the way I will go. When I first looked at Nsane's I thought they were punched out of sheet metal and would not be stronge enough. Once I saw the waggy one's yesterday I see now what they are. With the toys in my garage/shop I could built the kit ones very easy but I would rather spend my time doing other things. Any more pics out their? Kevin

07-09-2005, 11:44 PM	#20
FRENCHBLUE72 PROJECT 7DEUCE Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: GRANTS PASS OR Posts: 21,606	XXL is that your cab that is now blue I thought the doors opened regular style? Kevin nice e.b. nice to see more wheelers on this site here s my toy... Attached Images __________________ GO BIG GREEN GO DUCKS MEMBER #6377 72 k-5 daily driver 6'' lift 35'' 350-350-205 slowly getting rust free. Project "7DEUCE" check out my build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=267665 Tim Powell..R.I.P EastSideLowlife..... R.I.P..

07-10-2005, 12:24 AM	#21
Rokcrln Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Winters Ca. 95694 Posts: 4,843	Nice EXO but to much metal left on the side's Kevin Last edited by Rokcrln; 07-10-2005 at 12:24 AM.

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