67-70 6 to 5 lug axles - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

**dennislbrooks** · 07-09-2005, 06:41 PM

After welding the holes shut in the 2nd axle, off to the machine shop along with 2 new 1/2" studs and a new 72 rear brake drum. Machinist will turn down the outside middle to fit the 72 drum and place the 5 holes for the a serated fit. from 6x5.5 to 5x5.

Will let you know my total cost less labor replacing my axles and different wheels.

thanks Phil of TX for the axles. pic attached.

dennis

jamal · 07-10-2005, 12:44 AM

Interesting, let us know how it turns out

**dennislbrooks** · 07-10-2005, 11:58 AM

A couple of more pics -- both axle flanges are now welding complete. I used a 7/16" slug and then welded from both sides.

BowTieMan · 07-10-2005, 05:25 PM

So how exactly did you do that? Did you just remove it and weld up all the holes then ground it down? I want to do this with my truck too so all the info you could get would be perfect. Thanks

**dennislbrooks** · 07-10-2005, 05:54 PM

I started out with 2 spare 69 axles but my next set will be with the ones in my 67 truck. For someone elses truck. 30 spline 30- 1/2" 5 lug axles can be purchased for around $329 includes 5 lug drums. Not a bad price if you are strictly a retail puchaser. My goal is not to exceed $200 total. The flanges are not hardened and take to welding without problems. I used my MIG on hottest setting with E70S steel wire. I inserted 7/16" rod plugs before I welded each side and then dressed the drum/back side with a small grinder. I will drop them at the machine shop tomorrow to lathe the flange center to fit the 72 drum center(2wd rear brakes on both the 67 and 72 are 11x2). Gets easy after that. Lay the 72 drum on the axle flange and mark the holes. The machine shop will place and drill my new holes to fit 1/2" serated studs. Will post the final pics and my total price excluding my labor to install the 5 lug axles in a week or less. If you can save money why waste good axles. thanks for asking

1STtimePRo'71 · 07-10-2005, 05:58 PM

Cool.

BowTieMan · 07-10-2005, 06:11 PM

I know I like the idea of just using what I got and making it work. Thanks for the help.

69 longhorn · 07-10-2005, 11:43 PM

My hat is off to you, for the hard work & save the buck deal! However, I have Moser axles in my 69($260 shipped to me, + the drums). That works out to be just about where you figured on price.....but that extra $100 bones really didnt hurt that bad to me

Im not trying to be a smart azz.....just my thoughts.....if you were the machine(ist) sp?, you could really get over on that deal! Pops tryed to tell me that when I was younger, but I didnt listen.....I COULD KICK MY AZZ NOW!

L

Joe67 · 07-11-2005, 08:12 AM

Nice writeup so far

I've heard of redrilling 6 luggers to 5 lug setups, keep the pics coming

**dennislbrooks** · 07-11-2005, 01:43 PM

Machine work for each axles to turn down the flange and place the 5 holes is $60 per axle. Add the 2 drums and 10 studs for the total price. I agree $260 complete is a good price for new axles, new drums, and studs.. I will post finished pics when I get them back next week.

MOTHERTRUCKERS · 07-11-2005, 05:35 PM

If your machinist has a broach machine thats great, if he just drills them put a tach weld on the back of each serrated stud, They will spin in the axle over time and wheel changes.

flip66 · 07-11-2005, 06:32 PM

That did not take long you just got the Saturday

**dennislbrooks** · 07-26-2005, 07:54 PM

I got the axles back from J&J Machine Shop in Irving, Tx Total cost with tax was $130 for both axles. When they cut down the center he made a concentric step to ensure centering the brake drum and easy off. I had to pull the studs in with a breaker bar and used grease to keep things from gulling up. If you like fabricating-- go for it--if you cannot or have plenty of money then buy them custom made. I would not argue either way.

LUV2XCLR8 · 07-26-2005, 07:59 PM

**uncle** · 07-26-2005, 08:38 PM

You have to be careful with the axle flanges. THEY WILL WARP! Don't ask how I know that.

07-09-2005, 06:41 PM	#1
dennislbrooks Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Williamsburg, Ohio Posts: 1,777	67-70 6 to 5 lug axles After welding the holes shut in the 2nd axle, off to the machine shop along with 2 new 1/2" studs and a new 72 rear brake drum. Machinist will turn down the outside middle to fit the 72 drum and place the 5 holes for the a serated fit. from 6x5.5 to 5x5. Will let you know my total cost less labor replacing my axles and different wheels. thanks Phil of TX for the axles. pic attached. dennis Attached Images

07-10-2005, 12:44 AM	#2
jamal Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bridgeport, AL Posts: 363	Interesting, let us know how it turns out __________________ 67 chevy stepside, 6 cylinder, three on the tree, small window. Currently in resto.

07-10-2005, 11:58 AM	#3
dennislbrooks Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Williamsburg, Ohio Posts: 1,777	for those interested 6 to 5 A couple of more pics -- both axle flanges are now welding complete. I used a 7/16" slug and then welded from both sides. Attached Images

07-10-2005, 05:25 PM	#4
BowTieMan Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Glendale Arizona Posts: 747	So how exactly did you do that? Did you just remove it and weld up all the holes then ground it down? I want to do this with my truck too so all the info you could get would be perfect. Thanks __________________ "A true hotrodder wouldn't be content untill he had created a car so violent, so hairy, so totally sick that the very act of dropping the hammer would result in instant death. Anything less results in the need to go faster." - Tony DeFeo

07-10-2005, 05:54 PM	#5
dennislbrooks Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Williamsburg, Ohio Posts: 1,777	BowTIEMan I started out with 2 spare 69 axles but my next set will be with the ones in my 67 truck. For someone elses truck. 30 spline 30- 1/2" 5 lug axles can be purchased for around $329 includes 5 lug drums. Not a bad price if you are strictly a retail puchaser. My goal is not to exceed $200 total. The flanges are not hardened and take to welding without problems. I used my MIG on hottest setting with E70S steel wire. I inserted 7/16" rod plugs before I welded each side and then dressed the drum/back side with a small grinder. I will drop them at the machine shop tomorrow to lathe the flange center to fit the 72 drum center(2wd rear brakes on both the 67 and 72 are 11x2). Gets easy after that. Lay the 72 drum on the axle flange and mark the holes. The machine shop will place and drill my new holes to fit 1/2" serated studs. Will post the final pics and my total price excluding my labor to install the 5 lug axles in a week or less. If you can save money why waste good axles. thanks for asking

07-10-2005, 05:58 PM	#6
1STtimePRo'71 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Lake Crystal, MN Posts: 656	Cool. __________________ -Cory 1967 2 Wheel Chevy

07-10-2005, 06:11 PM	#7
BowTieMan Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Glendale Arizona Posts: 747	I know I like the idea of just using what I got and making it work. Thanks for the help. __________________ "A true hotrodder wouldn't be content untill he had created a car so violent, so hairy, so totally sick that the very act of dropping the hammer would result in instant death. Anything less results in the need to go faster." - Tony DeFeo

07-10-2005, 11:43 PM	#8
69 longhorn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: rock island,il,usa Posts: 5,382	My hat is off to you, for the hard work & save the buck deal! However, I have Moser axles in my 69($260 shipped to me, + the drums). That works out to be just about where you figured on price.....but that extra $100 bones really didnt hurt that bad to me Im not trying to be a smart azz.....just my thoughts.....if you were the machine(ist) sp?, you could really get over on that deal! Pops tryed to tell me that when I was younger, but I didnt listen.....I COULD KICK MY AZZ NOW! L __________________ http://community.webshots.com/user/hotrodhorn

07-11-2005, 08:12 AM	#9
Joe67 67 is sold Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Troy, Michigan Posts: 6,738	Nice writeup so far I've heard of redrilling 6 luggers to 5 lug setups, keep the pics coming __________________ Joe - Formerly 67c10step ------------------------------- 1967 Chevy Stepside - ECE 4/6, fuelcell, 5lug - SOLD gr8lakes - My ebay auctions Click here to order forum apparel :: Click here to become a subscribing member

07-11-2005, 01:43 PM	#10
dennislbrooks Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Williamsburg, Ohio Posts: 1,777	Machine work for each axles to turn down the flange and place the 5 holes is $60 per axle. Add the 2 drums and 10 studs for the total price. I agree $260 complete is a good price for new axles, new drums, and studs.. I will post finished pics when I get them back next week.

07-11-2005, 05:35 PM	#11
MOTHERTRUCKERS Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: BRADENTON FLA Posts: 3,269	If your machinist has a broach machine thats great, if he just drills them put a tach weld on the back of each serrated stud, They will spin in the axle over time and wheel changes. __________________ Rest in Peace Ed. Thanks for all the good times.

07-11-2005, 06:32 PM	#12
flip66 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Garland TX Dallas area Posts: 658	That did not take long you just got the Saturday __________________ 1998 Pontiac Grad Prix GTP 1969 C10 396 TH400 3.08 posi

07-26-2005, 07:54 PM	#13
dennislbrooks Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Williamsburg, Ohio Posts: 1,777	For those who wanted to see the final pics. I got the axles back from J&J Machine Shop in Irving, Tx Total cost with tax was $130 for both axles. When they cut down the center he made a concentric step to ensure centering the brake drum and easy off. I had to pull the studs in with a breaker bar and used grease to keep things from gulling up. If you like fabricating-- go for it--if you cannot or have plenty of money then buy them custom made. I would not argue either way. Attached Images

07-26-2005, 07:59 PM	#14
LUV2XCLR8 The LuvShack Garage Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Maple Grove, TN (West Side) Posts: 30,477	__________________ Owner/Op: "TN Classic Transport Carriers" The Toy: "Square Vette" 72 Hybrid Blazer Toy Barn: "LuvShack" 40 x 60 x 20 Shop Tow Piggy:"Maddy" 88 Silverado 3500 Hauler: "Feathers" 14 Aluma 8218T

07-26-2005, 08:38 PM	#15
uncle Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Conyers,Ga. Posts: 7,286	Flanges You have to be careful with the axle flanges. THEY WILL WARP! Don't ask how I know that.



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