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mrwilmoth · 07-18-2005, 09:39 PM

can I use a regular 4 speed column (r n d 2 1) with a 700r4 overdrive? Ive heard I can but I wont be able to shift into first (which I never have done anyways). thanks for the help.

**pjmoreland** · 07-18-2005, 11:41 PM

I'm using a regular PRND21 column with my 700R4, and I can just barely shift into 1st. I hit my knee on the shifter when I step on the brake pedal though. My shifter linkage is in pretty good condition. If you have a lot of slop in yours, I doubt it will work. There was a thread awhile back that described a method for calculating the spot for drilling a new hole in the shifter linkage to give the shifter lever more throw. The disadvantage of this is that the neutral-drive shift limiter will no longer be the right size, and park will not be the correct distance away from the neutral-drive shift limiter.

**special-K** · 07-19-2005, 07:37 AM

700R4s use 4spd columns,they are 4spds.I`m confused.Are you trying to use the original 3spd(TH350/TH400) auto column with a 700R4?

jay6891 · 07-19-2005, 08:31 AM

the way I hooked up my stock column to my 700r4 was to put the shifter into park with the linkage loose. Put the 700r4 in park. Install linkage into shifting arm on trans and tighten up adjusting bolt/ set screw. Indicater lines up in all gears but low 1. I can get a pic of set screw if needed.

Scooter67 · 07-19-2005, 11:06 AM

PRND21 standard column in my truck w/700R4. D is overdrive, then there's a notch for 3rd, 2nd, and 1st, even though it doesn't match the D-2-1 on the indicator. Engages fully in each gear and works well. PO set it up so I don't know how he did it.

super72bb · 07-22-2005, 12:23 AM

Does anyone make a factory tilt column with the detent for the extra gear OD,D,2,1 ???

mrwilmoth · 07-22-2005, 01:04 AM

just got one from dmec.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...28#post1339828

great rebuilt oem powercoated columns

68C15 · 07-22-2005, 08:22 AM

IIRC there is a removeable part inside the column. I think its called the "shift gate" & is held in with 2 screws. you will need to remove the bowl to access it. I think they (the OD gates) are still available from GM. get one for a mid - 80's (85ish)
can anyone back me up on this?

07-18-2005, 09:39 PM	#1
mrwilmoth Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: san bernardino, ca Posts: 240	will a 4 speed column work w/ 700r4 can I use a regular 4 speed column (r n d 2 1) with a 700r4 overdrive? Ive heard I can but I wont be able to shift into first (which I never have done anyways). thanks for the help.

07-19-2005, 07:37 AM	#3
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	700R4s use 4spd columns,they are 4spds.I`m confused.Are you trying to use the original 3spd(TH350/TH400) auto column with a 700R4? __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

07-19-2005, 08:31 AM	#4
jay6891 Car Knocker Join Date: May 2001 Location: jefferson,arkansas Posts: 664	the way I hooked up my stock column to my 700r4 was to put the shifter into park with the linkage loose. Put the 700r4 in park. Install linkage into shifting arm on trans and tighten up adjusting bolt/ set screw. Indicater lines up in all gears but low 1. I can get a pic of set screw if needed. __________________ 68 c-10,91 sportside bed,350 .030 over,4 bolt,10-1 comp,2.05 intake/1.94 exhaust,1.6 Harland Sharp roller rockers,edelbrock rpm cam and intake w/750 carb, 700r4, 3.73 gears,Jacabbs Electronic Igntion w/Accel HEI distributer and super coil. ZR-1 roll pan, filled tailights. Blazer tank. Hidden hitch. 2 1/2" Flowmaster 40's. Parts bought but not installed>> ford 9" posi with disc. CCP front and rear lowering kit 4/5. Cab corners,foor boards,rockers, cab braces, Phatom grill, Painless wiring kit.

07-19-2005, 11:06 AM	#5
Scooter67 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: middle TN Posts: 87	PRND21 standard column in my truck w/700R4. D is overdrive, then there's a notch for 3rd, 2nd, and 1st, even though it doesn't match the D-2-1 on the indicator. Engages fully in each gear and works well. PO set it up so I don't know how he did it. __________________ Here's my '67 stepside www.truckwithaheart.com

07-22-2005, 12:23 AM	#6
super72bb Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: calgary,Alberta,Canada Posts: 387	Does anyone make a factory tilt column with the detent for the extra gear OD,D,2,1 ??? __________________ 1972 CHEYENNE SUPER SWB BLACK. 402 BB, TH400, AIR, TILT, TACH, BUCKETS, CRUISE, AM/FM, 8 TRACK. My build thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post7120181

07-18-2005, 11:41 PM	#2
pjmoreland Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: CA Posts: 6,011	I'm using a regular PRND21 column with my 700R4, and I can just barely shift into 1st. I hit my knee on the shifter when I step on the brake pedal though. My shifter linkage is in pretty good condition. If you have a lot of slop in yours, I doubt it will work. There was a thread awhile back that described a method for calculating the spot for drilling a new hole in the shifter linkage to give the shifter lever more throw. The disadvantage of this is that the neutral-drive shift limiter will no longer be the right size, and park will not be the correct distance away from the neutral-drive shift limiter.

07-22-2005, 01:04 AM	#7
mrwilmoth Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: san bernardino, ca Posts: 240	just got one from dmec. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...28#post1339828 great rebuilt oem powercoated columns

07-22-2005, 08:22 AM	#8
68C15 blood type; Retumbo Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: next to my reloading bench Posts: 10,269	IIRC there is a removeable part inside the column. I think its called the "shift gate" & is held in with 2 screws. you will need to remove the bowl to access it. I think they (the OD gates) are still available from GM. get one for a mid - 80's (85ish) can anyone back me up on this? __________________ Man rule #77...if you own a 67 stepside with a caddy 472 you will never be in danger of loosing you man card



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