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HOTFUN · 06-24-2002, 07:05 PM

I need to find true saddle color carpet for the floor and the cab back panel(bucket seat truck) and a dash pad . Most of the suppliers I noticed only say "brown". Does anyone make a good replacement "saddle" colored original loop set for my parchment interior?

kingparts2 · 06-24-2002, 11:00 PM

Parchment is the off-white color. The saddle is a tan or brown color and the pads sold by the vendors here are a very close match to the original, likewise with the carpet.

HOTFUN · 06-24-2002, 11:14 PM

Yes, all parchment interiors used off white door panels, seat belts seat upholstery, and headliner/visors. GM used a light brown-tan dash pad and carpeting with this interior color only.
Today this color is very similiar to the new GM truck "neutral" color interior.

The brown interior was optional to the Cheyenne and Cheyenne Super only in 71 and 72. It is darker and more brown and is used exclusively all throughout these interiors i.e. seat belts, door panels, carpet, visors headliner, dash pad, and the seat.

Trust me there is a very noticable difference in an original truck.
So does anyone know of a supplier of original style carpet in saddle (tan)? A dash pad could be dyed to tan color.

HF

kingparts2 · 06-24-2002, 11:53 PM

Sorry I misunderstood what you were talking about. Yes, I have seen the color you are asking about in original trucks. That color is not available. But I have a question: I have seen the top of the dash painted a matching color in some trucks. Was it standard to paint the dash the dash pad color in trucks with parchmnet interiors??

HOTFUN · 06-25-2002, 12:09 AM

Ron
I have been around and owned these 71 and 72 pickups since they were new and I think I can answer that from what I have seen. GM painted the dash panel a flat color that coresponded with the installed dash pad color to eliminate glare. If I remember right it is was a safety issue that came about in the 60's that changed manufacturers to us flat colors or a vinyl dash to reduce winshield glare. Chevrolet made the change in the 1966 model pickups by painting the dash panel a flat mocha brown instead of all fawn as in the 65 and earlier years. They actually had done this back in the late fifties on pickups using a dark flat gray painted dash too.

I have seen every "factory installed" parchment interior use the saddle color dash with that color painted on the area next to the windshield.
I know my green truck has flat green painted there and the brown Cheyenne had it painted a brown color.
Another note is the steering wheel/column was also saddle and all standard columns matched the dash pad color unless it had a tilt column, which changed it to black only.
Sorry for the lengthy response and I hope it answered the question.

HF

**Classic Heartbeat** · 06-25-2002, 02:13 AM

I can get the closed loop carpet in 4 different shades of saddle. We carry dark saddle (which looks a lot like brown to me) We carry the plain saddle wich is a whole lot lighter than the dark saddle and is definatly not brown. Then there is red saddle, which is just like the name implies (saddle with a reddish hew) And finaly a medium saddle wich is the lightest of the four (closest to tan) E-mail me if you think that I can help you. WES www.ClassicHeartbeat.com

johnnyp · 06-25-2002, 09:39 AM

Hotfun, I purchased my new carpet (black) from C.A.R.S Inc. and they list "saddle" as one of the color choices. I haven't had a chance to install mine yet, so can't vouch for the fit, but the look is identical to the original 80/20 weave, loop pile, jute backed carpet that was original to the my truck - great price too.

BTW - their web site navigation leaves a lot to be desired, but if you are patient, you'll find the carpets section. It's under "Interiors".

nroden · 06-25-2002, 10:26 AM

I got my carpet from GMCPaul. I can't say that I know it fits because I don't have it in yet but the color/texture look exactly like the original saddle carpet minus the stains and wear. I just got regular saddle. It was dropp shipped from ACC (auto custom carpet) and I assume you could order direct from them also.
www.gmcpauls.com
www.accmats.com

kingparts2 · 06-25-2002, 07:28 PM

Honestly, with all this "help" what you are going to have to do is send a piece of the carpet to ACC directly, to have them match the color. They will also send you samples of close colors. Just give them a call. For some reason I have always called that color Sandelwood. Your use of the word saddle is confusing a lot of people. It did me at first too.

When you do find the correct color let us all know. Good luck.

HOTFUN · 06-25-2002, 07:49 PM

Actually the old saddles off the horses around here are getting weathered so they don't look brown anymore. That color was called sandlewood from GM since you said that. Sorry about that. I don't see sandlewood listed but I will send in a sample of the carpet and get a ACC color name and # for it. I will let you know.
Thanks for all the good information here guys.
HF

**Classic Heartbeat** · 06-25-2002, 08:18 PM

Sandlewood is another color offered by ACC it is also called Fawn and has a silvery tint to it. WES www.ClassicHeartbeat.com

kingparts2 · 06-26-2002, 04:15 AM

Love the smell of old saddles in the tack room early in the morning.

Maybe you have the carpet problem settled, but now you will have to deal with a dash. Unless you find a NOS you will have to paint one. Sems(sp?) is the vinyl paint I use. It would be hard to duplicate the metalic sheen. I am curious on how you handle this. Keep us posted.

There are several colors of dashes not reproduced yet. Maybe that would be a good project for this board to do. Start a campaign to get those colors reproduced. If there were enough people who said they would buy them then Dashes Direct might make them.

06-24-2002, 07:05 PM	#1
HOTFUN Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska Posts: 2,145	Saddle color carpet and dashpad question. I need to find true saddle color carpet for the floor and the cab back panel(bucket seat truck) and a dash pad . Most of the suppliers I noticed only say "brown". Does anyone make a good replacement "saddle" colored original loop set for my parchment interior? __________________ '66 CST BBW swb fleet 327 fac ac '67 CST 4x4 swb 327 stepside project '72 Cheyenne K20 50k original '72 Cheyenne Super K20 project '73 Sierra swb 4x4 frame off in paint stage '74 Cheyenne Super swb w/16k actual '71 & 72 Cheyenne K10 4x4 swb's '70 426 HEMICUDA conv SHAKER 4 sp Dana 60 '60 Impala conv 327 PG fac ac loaded 3rd owner '72 GMC K2500 4x4 '59 Apache CST BBW fleetside swb 283 '73 ElCamino SS LS1 T56 true SS bucket tach '76 ElCamino SS 52k survivor '87 Grand National 41k True 2nd to last built in 1987. '86 K30 454 SRW fleetside CA since new '88 Trans Am GTA 39k bought new 2018 DEMON plum crazy @ 840HP! "Need for speed"

06-24-2002, 11:00 PM	#2
kingparts2 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Columbia, SC USA Posts: 57	Parchment is the off-white color. The saddle is a tan or brown color and the pads sold by the vendors here are a very close match to the original, likewise with the carpet. __________________ Ron King Give me fuel, give me fire, give me that which I desire. Metallica Ever notice in the old Superman shows, he would stand there as the bullets bounced off his chest, but duck when they threw the gun at him!!! Columbia, South Carolina

06-24-2002, 11:14 PM	#3
HOTFUN Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska Posts: 2,145	Yes, all parchment interiors used off white door panels, seat belts seat upholstery, and headliner/visors. GM used a light brown-tan dash pad and carpeting with this interior color only. Today this color is very similiar to the new GM truck "neutral" color interior. The brown interior was optional to the Cheyenne and Cheyenne Super only in 71 and 72. It is darker and more brown and is used exclusively all throughout these interiors i.e. seat belts, door panels, carpet, visors headliner, dash pad, and the seat. Trust me there is a very noticable difference in an original truck. So does anyone know of a supplier of original style carpet in saddle (tan)? A dash pad could be dyed to tan color. HF __________________ '66 CST BBW swb fleet 327 fac ac '67 CST 4x4 swb 327 stepside project '72 Cheyenne K20 50k original '72 Cheyenne Super K20 project '73 Sierra swb 4x4 frame off in paint stage '74 Cheyenne Super swb w/16k actual '71 & 72 Cheyenne K10 4x4 swb's '70 426 HEMICUDA conv SHAKER 4 sp Dana 60 '60 Impala conv 327 PG fac ac loaded 3rd owner '72 GMC K2500 4x4 '59 Apache CST BBW fleetside swb 283 '73 ElCamino SS LS1 T56 true SS bucket tach '76 ElCamino SS 52k survivor '87 Grand National 41k True 2nd to last built in 1987. '86 K30 454 SRW fleetside CA since new '88 Trans Am GTA 39k bought new 2018 DEMON plum crazy @ 840HP! "Need for speed"

06-24-2002, 11:53 PM	#4
kingparts2 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Columbia, SC USA Posts: 57	Sorry I misunderstood what you were talking about. Yes, I have seen the color you are asking about in original trucks. That color is not available. But I have a question: I have seen the top of the dash painted a matching color in some trucks. Was it standard to paint the dash the dash pad color in trucks with parchmnet interiors?? __________________ Ron King Give me fuel, give me fire, give me that which I desire. Metallica Ever notice in the old Superman shows, he would stand there as the bullets bounced off his chest, but duck when they threw the gun at him!!! Columbia, South Carolina

06-25-2002, 12:09 AM	#5
HOTFUN Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska Posts: 2,145	Ron I have been around and owned these 71 and 72 pickups since they were new and I think I can answer that from what I have seen. GM painted the dash panel a flat color that coresponded with the installed dash pad color to eliminate glare. If I remember right it is was a safety issue that came about in the 60's that changed manufacturers to us flat colors or a vinyl dash to reduce winshield glare. Chevrolet made the change in the 1966 model pickups by painting the dash panel a flat mocha brown instead of all fawn as in the 65 and earlier years. They actually had done this back in the late fifties on pickups using a dark flat gray painted dash too. I have seen every "factory installed" parchment interior use the saddle color dash with that color painted on the area next to the windshield. I know my green truck has flat green painted there and the brown Cheyenne had it painted a brown color. Another note is the steering wheel/column was also saddle and all standard columns matched the dash pad color unless it had a tilt column, which changed it to black only. Sorry for the lengthy response and I hope it answered the question. HF __________________ '66 CST BBW swb fleet 327 fac ac '67 CST 4x4 swb 327 stepside project '72 Cheyenne K20 50k original '72 Cheyenne Super K20 project '73 Sierra swb 4x4 frame off in paint stage '74 Cheyenne Super swb w/16k actual '71 & 72 Cheyenne K10 4x4 swb's '70 426 HEMICUDA conv SHAKER 4 sp Dana 60 '60 Impala conv 327 PG fac ac loaded 3rd owner '72 GMC K2500 4x4 '59 Apache CST BBW fleetside swb 283 '73 ElCamino SS LS1 T56 true SS bucket tach '76 ElCamino SS 52k survivor '87 Grand National 41k True 2nd to last built in 1987. '86 K30 454 SRW fleetside CA since new '88 Trans Am GTA 39k bought new 2018 DEMON plum crazy @ 840HP! "Need for speed"

06-25-2002, 02:13 AM	#6
Classic Heartbeat Project Junkie! Fishing Poor!! Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Olympia,Wa. 98512 Posts: 10,766	I can get the closed loop carpet in 4 different shades of saddle. We carry dark saddle (which looks a lot like brown to me) We carry the plain saddle wich is a whole lot lighter than the dark saddle and is definatly not brown. Then there is red saddle, which is just like the name implies (saddle with a reddish hew) And finaly a medium saddle wich is the lightest of the four (closest to tan) E-mail me if you think that I can help you. WES www.ClassicHeartbeat.com __________________ On-line catolog Classic Heartbeat Pickup Parts WEHEPP@comcast.net Call us Toll Free (888) 338-2502 Like Us on Facebook No appointment necessary. 72 BB Chevy Custom Deluxe / Custom Camper 67 I-6 (Soon to be 5.7 LS1) Panel 68 BB Chevy Short Bed 72 6.0 LQ9 Short Bed Chevy 4X4 Olympia's fastest growing truck parts supplier. Olympia's home for Wayward Chevys

06-25-2002, 09:39 AM	#7
johnnyp Keepin' It Stock Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Grand Island, Nebraska, USA Posts: 554	Hotfun, I purchased my new carpet (black) from C.A.R.S Inc. and they list "saddle" as one of the color choices. I haven't had a chance to install mine yet, so can't vouch for the fit, but the look is identical to the original 80/20 weave, loop pile, jute backed carpet that was original to the my truck - great price too. BTW - their web site navigation leaves a lot to be desired, but if you are patient, you'll find the carpets section. It's under "Interiors". __________________ 72 Sierra Grande - Maych Forget about "do it right the first time". Do it wrong the first time to learn how, then do it right the second time.

06-25-2002, 10:26 AM	#8
nroden Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 1,098	I got my carpet from GMCPaul. I can't say that I know it fits because I don't have it in yet but the color/texture look exactly like the original saddle carpet minus the stains and wear. I just got regular saddle. It was dropp shipped from ACC (auto custom carpet) and I assume you could order direct from them also. www.gmcpauls.com www.accmats.com __________________ Nick Rodenberg 72 Cheyenne 10 V8 350/TH350 white/ochre/white/ochre, ochre/saddle interior Retired and in the dry... still runs. I now drive Red '01 Ford Focus... better MPG!!!

06-25-2002, 07:28 PM	#9
kingparts2 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Columbia, SC USA Posts: 57	Honestly, with all this "help" what you are going to have to do is send a piece of the carpet to ACC directly, to have them match the color. They will also send you samples of close colors. Just give them a call. For some reason I have always called that color Sandelwood. Your use of the word saddle is confusing a lot of people. It did me at first too. When you do find the correct color let us all know. Good luck. __________________ Ron King Give me fuel, give me fire, give me that which I desire. Metallica Ever notice in the old Superman shows, he would stand there as the bullets bounced off his chest, but duck when they threw the gun at him!!! Columbia, South Carolina

06-25-2002, 07:49 PM	#10
HOTFUN Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska Posts: 2,145	Actually the old saddles off the horses around here are getting weathered so they don't look brown anymore. That color was called sandlewood from GM since you said that. Sorry about that. I don't see sandlewood listed but I will send in a sample of the carpet and get a ACC color name and # for it. I will let you know. Thanks for all the good information here guys. HF

06-25-2002, 08:18 PM	#11
Classic Heartbeat Project Junkie! Fishing Poor!! Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Olympia,Wa. 98512 Posts: 10,766	Sandlewood is another color offered by ACC it is also called Fawn and has a silvery tint to it. WES www.ClassicHeartbeat.com __________________ On-line catolog Classic Heartbeat Pickup Parts WEHEPP@comcast.net Call us Toll Free (888) 338-2502 Like Us on Facebook No appointment necessary. 72 BB Chevy Custom Deluxe / Custom Camper 67 I-6 (Soon to be 5.7 LS1) Panel 68 BB Chevy Short Bed 72 6.0 LQ9 Short Bed Chevy 4X4 Olympia's fastest growing truck parts supplier. Olympia's home for Wayward Chevys

06-26-2002, 04:15 AM	#12
kingparts2 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Columbia, SC USA Posts: 57	Love the smell of old saddles in the tack room early in the morning. Maybe you have the carpet problem settled, but now you will have to deal with a dash. Unless you find a NOS you will have to paint one. Sems(sp?) is the vinyl paint I use. It would be hard to duplicate the metalic sheen. I am curious on how you handle this. Keep us posted. There are several colors of dashes not reproduced yet. Maybe that would be a good project for this board to do. Start a campaign to get those colors reproduced. If there were enough people who said they would buy them then Dashes Direct might make them. __________________ Ron King Give me fuel, give me fire, give me that which I desire. Metallica Ever notice in the old Superman shows, he would stand there as the bullets bounced off his chest, but duck when they threw the gun at him!!! Columbia, South Carolina



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