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Old 08-20-2005, 11:36 PM   #1
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DO I need POR15 at this time?

I have been driving my 69 Chevy Custom Camper just around town and the body is solid. The cab corners will have to replaced sometime in the next year or so. The bottom of the truck is not rusted out or anything like that. I went to a car show today and went thru the vendors and a POR15 dealer was trying his hardest to sell me a 110 dollar gallion of POR15 to put on my truck. Next year I will have enough money to replace the old motor and get body work done. The truck will be stored until then in my unheated garage during the Michigan winter. Do I really need to start putting this stuff on to stop it from turning to dust or will it be aok until next year?

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Old 08-20-2005, 11:53 PM   #2
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if you are putting it away for the winter, and the rust is minimal right now... then you can skip it.
However, the stuff does work wonders.
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Old 08-20-2005, 11:56 PM   #3
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no you don't need// and when you do need it buy it in quarts not gallons
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Old 08-21-2005, 12:09 AM   #4
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There are other rust conversion + prevention products on the market, POR is not the only one. POR has the toughest preparation procedures. I won't try to sway you towards any of the products, just be sure to do your homework before taking that journey and make sure you're comfortable using the products. There are a lot of considerations - like, some of the products you do NOT want to get wet and you always want to pour only as much as you will use. Cure times are specific and you only have a certain window of time to do a second coat/ reapplication and other stuff.

There have been a LOT of threads in this particular forum about rust prevention products. I would take a day or so and dig through them
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Old 08-21-2005, 06:23 AM   #5
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Thanks for your suggestions and comments. I will read up on it and other choices more and since it is in a garage I might wait til next summer to do anything with it. I will just enjoy the last weeks we have here in Michigan before I have to put it away.

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Old 08-21-2005, 10:12 AM   #6
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Don't buy POR by the gallon. Buy smaller cans instead. Once you open the can, there is only so long before it hardens up permanantly. I'm talking weeks here, not hours or anything. I can usually use a quart here and there on miscellaneous projects before it hardens up, but I'd never use a gallon that way.
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Old 08-21-2005, 12:03 PM   #7
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ditto about the small cans. a little goes a long way. I heard you can freeze it, but I didn't try it. Here's a pic of what mine looks like.
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Old 08-21-2005, 02:21 PM   #8
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About how much does it take to do a shortbed frame?Also looking at similar products.
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Old 08-21-2005, 03:10 PM   #9
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you can get a 6 pack of 4 ounce cans for about 40 bucks, and you can mix colors in the 6 pack if you want. www.por15.com
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Old 08-21-2005, 03:11 PM   #10
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Gallon worked fine for me for over a year. Opened it no less that 10-15 times. Instructions say to put a piece of saran wrap (plastic) over the can before you put the lid on. Just an FYI...

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Old 08-22-2005, 01:32 PM   #11
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I think because I left the can in the hot garage, it dried up faster. The saran wrap is a must! I had to do mine in stages (clean gunk off, wire wheel, metal prep, por-15). I mostly did it myself with help from my fiance. I did one side at a time, then the crossmembers, then flipped it over and did the bottom. I unbolted the front crossmember so that I can get it cleaned real good.

Just a tip, before you apply the por-15, make sure the metal is smooth to the touch. Wipe off any excess metal prep. Otherwise, it won't come out nice and smooth.

BTW, mine is brushed on with rollers designed for flat walls. (not rough). And touched up the hard to reach areas with some cheap brushes.

Good luck on your project!

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Old 08-26-2005, 11:17 PM   #12
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Thank you for the tips. I am starting to make room in my garage and will cover it up until next spring to do work on it. I will drive it around atleast a few more weeks.

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Old 08-27-2005, 09:33 AM   #13
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Been using POR15 for about 10 years. Also used Eastwood's rust stopper. I prefer POR but like said above, you need to know how it works. I buy gallon and get some empty quart cans from local paint store. You can buy it on e-bay for $105. with free ship, no tax, and it includes a quart of metal ready and marine cleaner. The catalog has all sorts of "Prep" work but---in general, if you clean off the flaking dirt and loose rust, then wash away any oil-grease, then you are ready to go. Brush or small roller is easy--sprey with caution as this stuff can kill you without proper ventalation. Once open, a can will start to film almost immediately. Using the plastic wrap helps to minimize the oxygen to the paint and also helps prevent the top from sticking. Put in fridge helps. Getting it on your clothes --doesn't come off. Getting it on your skin is like a weak long tatoo. A little goes a long way. Turns crappy if exposed to sunlight but doesn't come off. Thus the topcoat. Great suff for rust prone areas like inside rocker boxes, floors, inner quarters, lower fenders, cab corners and especially the bed floor to rear floor support--where the floor wraps ---wash that area out real good then get a small rush with POR15---get it in there good---even California rust free bled floors will rust out there as the dirt gets trapped. Good luck~~~
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Old 08-27-2005, 12:00 PM   #14
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i just drill 2small holes in the lid and seal with sheetmetal screws and pour out what i'm going to use into a cup i find it's alot easier than dealing with taking the lid off
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I just found EXTEND rust neutralizer from "Locktite" Comes in a spraycan and works great for hard to reach areas, best of all it's CHEAP. It sprays on and looks like oil but dries into a dull black primer finish. I think that it would be perfect for your winter storage concerns. Maybe overspray with some cheap rattle can color from wal-mart and wait until next year when you can finish it the way you want.
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Old 08-27-2005, 08:21 PM   #16
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Hey huck do you have a link for the por on e-bay or e-bay sellers name?? I have been usung por-15 for about a year and am in need of some more...
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I just found EXTEND rust neutralizer from "Locktite" Comes in a spraycan and works great for hard to reach areas, best of all it's CHEAP. It sprays on and looks like oil but dries into a dull black primer finish. I think that it would be perfect for your winter storage concerns. Maybe overspray with some cheap rattle can color from wal-mart and wait until next year when you can finish it the way you want.
Hi Americanrider where did you get the locktite extend from I had some a while back and the stuff works great Iwould like to get somemore. Thanks 8bolt.
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Old 08-28-2005, 04:41 AM   #19
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Thanks for the added information. I am always learning alot.

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