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72 longhorn BB · 09-07-2005, 08:38 PM

Just wondering if new (2004) Chevrolet 8-bolt rims fit on a 72 3/4 ton?

stllookn · 09-07-2005, 08:39 PM

Bolt pattern for all 8 bolts are the same. You may want to check back spacing however just to make sure.

acloco · 09-07-2005, 08:41 PM

Check the inner diameter as well...hub size may be a problem.

**hilljob26** · 09-07-2005, 10:05 PM

ive seen others due it,i know hummer wheels fit,so i wouldn't doubt that the others would

**Stocker** · 09-07-2005, 10:07 PM

Good info above. I *think* that if anything, our trucks may have smaller diameter axle stubs than some others, should be no problem. All (GM, Dodge, Ford) 8-lugs were the same until recently; Ford changed to an oddball pattern. Kinda makes sense!

Longhorn Man · 09-07-2005, 10:44 PM

Stocker, i think it is just the 70 and older with the small lugs, I think the 9/16ths lug is about the same as modern day....I am 99% sure they are all 15mm which is as close as you'll get to 9/16ths.
The back spacing will be a major issue. They will be tucked in way too much, esp if the wheels are off a 4X4. Bolt them on and go around the block before spending any cash.
It'll look like a real fat guy on a kids bike from the front or rear.

jostrans68 · 09-07-2005, 10:58 PM

Check Wes's site he has them on his garden truck and another

Russell · 09-07-2005, 11:47 PM

I've got a set on my 80, and the backspacing is perfect all around. The tires are flush with the fender wells, and go in a fair ways. They don't rub at all, and look great. I don't have center caps on mine though, because it is a 4x4 with a big set of manual hubs sticking out up front, and a bit 14 bolt axle sticking out the back. I just painted the hubs nicely, and used some black lug nuts, looks real good!

**Stocker** · 09-08-2005, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Longhorn Man

Stocker, i think it is just the 70 and older with the small lugs, I think the 9/16ths lug is about the same as modern day....I am 99% sure they are all 15mm which is as close as you'll get to 9/16ths.

Andy, I was talking about the axle stubs (hubs), not lug studs.

I seem to recall that our oem whhels would not fit over some Ford hubs, for instance, because the Fords had a larger diameter hub - but if we wanted to, we could put oem Ford wheels on our rigs, as their axle holes were a larger diameter.

jsbgump · 09-08-2005, 02:19 AM

I know that if you try to run the 99+ 6 lugs you have to waller out the center hub a bit to fit 70- trucks. It might be the same for the 8 luggers. Just my 2 cents.

Blazer1970 · 09-08-2005, 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsbgump

I know that if you try to run the 99+ 6 lugs you have to waller out the center hub a bit to fit 70- trucks. It might be the same for the 8 luggers. Just my 2 cents.

This is not an issue with the 8 lug wheels.

**special-K** · 09-08-2005, 07:39 AM

The `92 steel wheels from my K3500 would not fit over the hubs on my`72 K/20.That 72blu396 guy had them on his,but not sure if he had original axle,as other things on the truck weren`t.I asked ,but never got an answer about this.And,never saw a picture of the VIN-spec sheet.

72gord · 09-08-2005, 08:27 AM

I've got a set of the aluminum wheels off of an 03 2500HD on my 72...fit fine, just have to buy the lug nuts (new ones are metric) I have a set of 285/75-16 on there with no lift and have no problems, but I don't off road it

72 longhorn BB · 09-08-2005, 09:05 AM

Thanks for the info. what do you mean about new metric lig nuts though. My 72 has standard threads, right?

Do you have any pictures of it?

*FormerMember* · 09-08-2005, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by stllookn

Bolt pattern for all 8 bolts are the same. You may want to check back spacing however just to make sure.

FYI and not being a smart a$$.

This is true of all the chevies, gmc's and dodges.

Furd went metric in 97 on most trucks.

72gord · 09-08-2005, 09:41 AM

You can't use the lug nuts off a newer truck, they have metric threads. To install the center caps you have to buy 9/16 internal thread nuts with the external threads to hold on the caps, I got mine at a swap for a $1 a piece...have also seen them on e-bay.

72gord · 09-08-2005, 09:42 AM

No pics right now...will try to get one up later

**special-K** · 09-08-2005, 10:12 AM

I think any tire place should be able to get you the 9/16" Duplex lugs.The`88-up type trucks(8 lug)used 14mm,I`m pretty sure.

Scrubby · 09-08-2005, 11:25 AM

Here is a writeup I did on putting these wheels on my burb:

http://www.gmtrucks.org/wiki/faq/8_lug_wheels

72gord · 09-09-2005, 08:57 AM

Scrubby...good idea on the rear caps, I'll give it a shot. That was one problem I hadn't solved yet, planning on cutting my front caps so my lock outs stick out through them. Also considered getting one ton caps for the rear, not sure, but assume they would be deeper.

chickenwing · 09-09-2005, 10:36 AM

I've got em on my 72 c-20. Got the double lug idea from another board member. Forgot who so can't give credit due. I would like about a 1/2" wheel spacer though. Truck looks like a kids wagon from the rear. Not bad at all up front.

**Classic Heartbeat** · 09-09-2005, 11:05 AM

The newer 8 lug wheels fit 3/4 ton 2X4s without any issues. You will however have to buy new lug nuts. The newer wheels bolt holes are cut at 60 degrees requiring a 60 degree lug nut. Here is a link to where I found some on the web: http://www.ezaccessory.com/.sc/ms/ca...y%20Lug%20Nuts
They have them in 7/16", 1/2", and 9/16" with external threads for the center caps.
I found that on the "Garden Truck" that the front wheels I had to sand the centers out slightly in order for the wheels to slip over the hubs without getting stuck on. No problems with the rears though.
My solution for the center cap problem was to break out the ole "Roto Zip". Since the front hubs, and back axles stick out too far to be able to install them, I used the roto zip with a circle cutting atachment to cut out 4 3/8" holes for the axle and hub to stick through. I painted the rear axles with ceramic aluminum color paint to clean up the look. I think that it turned out great. WES www.ClassicHeartbeat.com

72 longhorn BB · 09-09-2005, 11:56 AM

It sounds by what you are saying is that I will have to cut the center out of the caps on my new 8 luggers, right?

thanks for the link for getting the new lugs.

can you clarify what you mean about spacers, and the truck looking like the kids wagon?

**Classic Heartbeat** · 09-09-2005, 11:59 AM

For the rear yes, but not for the front if you have a 2 wheel drive. WES www.ClassicHeartbeat.com

cheyenne10 · 09-09-2005, 12:48 PM

I did the hole cutting on a pair of rear caps and painted the axle ends just like Wes suggested Thanks again for advise). Turned out great and got a new Roto-zip too! Only problem I had with Roto-zip was the need to go real slow on cut. Broke a couple of bits and smelled a lot of melting plastic. I could not find a bit rated to cut better, just take your time and watch for the bit comming loose. I am running the 245's that came on these wheels alot. I might upgrade to larger tire if they fit wheels some day. Truck looks nice right now though.

09-07-2005, 08:38 PM	#1
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09-07-2005, 08:39 PM	#2
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09-07-2005, 10:05 PM	#4
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09-07-2005, 10:07 PM	#5
Stocker 20' Daredevil (Ret) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Jefferson State Posts: 13,598	Good info above. I think that if anything, our trucks may have smaller diameter axle stubs than some others, should be no problem. All (GM, Dodge, Ford) 8-lugs were the same until recently; Ford changed to an oddball pattern. Kinda makes sense! __________________ - Mike - 1972 K20 LWB 350/350/205 RIP El Jay

09-07-2005, 10:44 PM	#6
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Stocker, i think it is just the 70 and older with the small lugs, I think the 9/16ths lug is about the same as modern day....I am 99% sure they are all 15mm which is as close as you'll get to 9/16ths. The back spacing will be a major issue. They will be tucked in way too much, esp if the wheels are off a 4X4. Bolt them on and go around the block before spending any cash. It'll look like a real fat guy on a kids bike from the front or rear. Last edited by Longhorn Man; 09-07-2005 at 10:45 PM. Reason: must....ignore....the voices.....

09-07-2005, 08:41 PM	#3
acloco Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Nebraska Posts: 335	Check the inner diameter as well...hub size may be a problem.

09-07-2005, 10:58 PM	#7
jostrans68 Jostrans68 Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Bloomington indiana Posts: 1,182	Check Wes's site he has them on his garden truck and another __________________ [CGTW Member former 67-72 now with a 96 silverado

09-07-2005, 11:47 PM	#8
Russell Professional Grade Join Date: May 2003 Location: Fort McMurray, Alberta Posts: 7,915	I've got a set on my 80, and the backspacing is perfect all around. The tires are flush with the fender wells, and go in a fair ways. They don't rub at all, and look great. I don't have center caps on mine though, because it is a 4x4 with a big set of manual hubs sticking out up front, and a bit 14 bolt axle sticking out the back. I just painted the hubs nicely, and used some black lug nuts, looks real good! __________________ 1995 Chevrolet 2 Door Tahoe (6.6L LBZ Duramax / ZF6 / NP241 with 1 ton solid axle swap)

09-08-2005, 02:19 AM	#10
jsbgump Gone Fishing Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Fort Worth, Texas 76135 Posts: 12,361	I know that if you try to run the 99+ 6 lugs you have to waller out the center hub a bit to fit 70- trucks. It might be the same for the 8 luggers. Just my 2 cents. __________________ 68 Chevy Short Fleetside LSX Swap Under Way 3.73 posi 2.5/4 drop Frame of resto has been started 2022 Hyundai Tucson Limited 2019 Chevy Traverse Redline Edition Wifes Ride Build Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post3483616

09-08-2005, 07:39 AM	#12
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,861	The `92 steel wheels from my K3500 would not fit over the hubs on my`72 K/20.That 72blu396 guy had them on his,but not sure if he had original axle,as other things on the truck weren`t.I asked ,but never got an answer about this.And,never saw a picture of the VIN-spec sheet. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

09-08-2005, 08:27 AM	#13
72gord Never enough time!! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: sw Wisconsin Posts: 602	I've got a set of the aluminum wheels off of an 03 2500HD on my 72...fit fine, just have to buy the lug nuts (new ones are metric) I have a set of 285/75-16 on there with no lift and have no problems, but I don't off road it

09-08-2005, 09:05 AM	#14
72 longhorn BB Registered User Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Michigan Posts: 312	Thanks for the info. what do you mean about new metric lig nuts though. My 72 has standard threads, right? Do you have any pictures of it? Last edited by 72 longhorn BB; 09-08-2005 at 09:06 AM.

09-08-2005, 09:41 AM	#16
72gord Never enough time!! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: sw Wisconsin Posts: 602	You can't use the lug nuts off a newer truck, they have metric threads. To install the center caps you have to buy 9/16 internal thread nuts with the external threads to hold on the caps, I got mine at a swap for a $1 a piece...have also seen them on e-bay.

09-08-2005, 09:42 AM	#17
72gord Never enough time!! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: sw Wisconsin Posts: 602	No pics right now...will try to get one up later

09-08-2005, 10:12 AM	#18
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,861	I think any tire place should be able to get you the 9/16" Duplex lugs.The`88-up type trucks(8 lug)used 14mm,I`m pretty sure. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~



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09-08-2005, 11:25 AM	#19
Scrubby Check out GMTrucks.org Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Boise, Id Posts: 284	Here is a writeup I did on putting these wheels on my burb: http://www.gmtrucks.org/wiki/faq/8_lug_wheels

09-09-2005, 08:57 AM	#20
72gord Never enough time!! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: sw Wisconsin Posts: 602	Scrubby...good idea on the rear caps, I'll give it a shot. That was one problem I hadn't solved yet, planning on cutting my front caps so my lock outs stick out through them. Also considered getting one ton caps for the rear, not sure, but assume they would be deeper.

09-09-2005, 10:36 AM	#21
chickenwing Lovin' Life in Miss.! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Puckett, Mississippi Posts: 1,937	I've got em on my 72 c-20. Got the double lug idea from another board member. Forgot who so can't give credit due. I would like about a 1/2" wheel spacer though. Truck looks like a kids wagon from the rear. Not bad at all up front.

09-09-2005, 11:05 AM	#22
Classic Heartbeat Project Junkie! Fishing Poor!! Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Olympia,Wa. 98512 Posts: 10,770	The newer 8 lug wheels fit 3/4 ton 2X4s without any issues. You will however have to buy new lug nuts. The newer wheels bolt holes are cut at 60 degrees requiring a 60 degree lug nut. Here is a link to where I found some on the web: http://www.ezaccessory.com/.sc/ms/ca...y%20Lug%20Nuts They have them in 7/16", 1/2", and 9/16" with external threads for the center caps. I found that on the "Garden Truck" that the front wheels I had to sand the centers out slightly in order for the wheels to slip over the hubs without getting stuck on. No problems with the rears though. My solution for the center cap problem was to break out the ole "Roto Zip". Since the front hubs, and back axles stick out too far to be able to install them, I used the roto zip with a circle cutting atachment to cut out 4 3/8" holes for the axle and hub to stick through. I painted the rear axles with ceramic aluminum color paint to clean up the look. I think that it turned out great. WES www.ClassicHeartbeat.com __________________ On-line catolog Classic Heartbeat Pickup Parts WEHEPP@comcast.net Call us Toll Free (888) 338-2502 Like Us on Facebook No appointment necessary. 72 BB Chevy Custom Deluxe / Custom Camper 67 I-6 (Soon to be 5.7 LS1) Panel 68 BB Chevy Short Bed 72 6.0 LQ9 Short Bed Chevy 4X4 Olympia's fastest growing truck parts supplier. Olympia's home for Wayward Chevys Last edited by Classic Heartbeat; 10-04-2007 at 07:39 PM.

09-09-2005, 11:56 AM	#23
72 longhorn BB Registered User Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Michigan Posts: 312	So what you'r saying is there are sme changes needed? It sounds by what you are saying is that I will have to cut the center out of the caps on my new 8 luggers, right? thanks for the link for getting the new lugs. can you clarify what you mean about spacers, and the truck looking like the kids wagon?

09-09-2005, 11:59 AM	#24
Classic Heartbeat Project Junkie! Fishing Poor!! Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Olympia,Wa. 98512 Posts: 10,770	For the rear yes, but not for the front if you have a 2 wheel drive. WES www.ClassicHeartbeat.com __________________ On-line catolog Classic Heartbeat Pickup Parts WEHEPP@comcast.net Call us Toll Free (888) 338-2502 Like Us on Facebook No appointment necessary. 72 BB Chevy Custom Deluxe / Custom Camper 67 I-6 (Soon to be 5.7 LS1) Panel 68 BB Chevy Short Bed 72 6.0 LQ9 Short Bed Chevy 4X4 Olympia's fastest growing truck parts supplier. Olympia's home for Wayward Chevys

09-09-2005, 12:48 PM	#25
cheyenne10 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,512	Hole cutting I did the hole cutting on a pair of rear caps and painted the axle ends just like Wes suggested Thanks again for advise). Turned out great and got a new Roto-zip too! Only problem I had with Roto-zip was the need to go real slow on cut. Broke a couple of bits and smelled a lot of melting plastic. I could not find a bit rated to cut better, just take your time and watch for the bit comming loose. I am running the 245's that came on these wheels alot. I might upgrade to larger tire if they fit wheels some day. Truck looks nice right now though. __________________ Bob

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