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DM310 · 09-10-2005, 07:50 PM

here we go

67Fleet · 09-10-2005, 08:01 PM

SWEET!!

That looks awesome. Great work. Nice welds too!! Everything looks super-clean. I'd be proud to roll that.

I do have a question for you though. You mounted your bags pretty far forward of the axle. That will probably be good for extra lift, but won't it put a lot of stress on them there?

DM310 · 09-10-2005, 08:11 PM

Thank you!. Yes I am sure there will be added stress but the bags should be able to handle it. I am not sure on what psi I will have to run at ride height on the rear yet.

bigred66 · 09-10-2005, 09:54 PM

looks AWESOME

milehightoyz · 09-10-2005, 10:28 PM

hey dm310, your trucking is looking awesome. ive been looking into old threads as i am about to do a z and crossmember drop on my 78 2wd blazer frame. will you lay out on your rails with 2"z and 1.5"xdrop without lca interference? also what other promblems have you encountered with this combo? steering? trans tunnel tranns xmember etc? thanks john

**N2TRUX** · 09-10-2005, 10:37 PM

Dude that looks flippin awesome! Hang a fender so we can get a visual on how low it's going to set...

DM310 · 09-10-2005, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by milehightoyz

hey dm310, your trucking is looking awesome. ive been looking into old threads as i am about to do a z and crossmember drop on my 78 2wd blazer frame. will you lay out on your rails with 2"z and 1.5"xdrop without lca interference? also what other promblems have you encountered with this combo? steering? trans tunnel tranns xmember etc? thanks john

w/ the truck laid out theres about a 1-2" between the lca's and the ground. So far no probs. I say do both the z and the x member drop. thanks

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Originally Posted by N2TRUX

Dude that looks flippin awesome! Hang a fender so we can get a visual on how low it's going to set...

Thanks man. I will get one tomorrow

bigbluthng · 09-11-2005, 01:48 AM

that looks pretty sweet. i'm interested in the watt's link. you have any pictures of that?

r0lf- · 09-11-2005, 02:46 AM

Yeah, the bags sure are mounted pretty far forward, what bags are they? 2500's or 2600's? You might want to move em back or you might not use all of that notch.

milehightoyz · 09-11-2005, 03:31 AM

what did you plate your z with 1/4"?? same for front frame horns or slightly thinner? do you plan on boxing the inside? do you foresee any interference on steering shaft and upca? sorry for all the questions, trying to get all my ?'s answer before i whip the sawzall out

DM310 · 09-11-2005, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by r0lf-

Yeah, the bags sure are mounted pretty far forward, what bags are they? 2500's or 2600's? You might want to move em back or you might not use all of that notch.

I am not sure how you think I would not use all of the notch? Aired out it lays?

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Originally Posted by milehightoyz

what did you plate your z with 1/4"?? same for front frame horns or slightly thinner? do you plan on boxing the inside? do you foresee any interference on steering shaft and upca? sorry for all the questions, trying to get all my ?'s answer before i whip the sawzall out

I used 1/4" on the inside. I did not plate the horns though. Yes there will be some interference w/ the steering shaft. I am going to be running some joints to fix that prob

DM310 · 09-11-2005, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bigbluthng

that looks pretty sweet. i'm interested in the watt's link. you have any pictures of that?

Heres a old pic

a squarecan · 09-11-2005, 02:11 PM

Looks damn nice!

I love the set-up, sure the bags a mounted pretty far forward, but it should ride like a queen! I was going to go that route but I have gotten my self going a much different route that is turning into a lot of work! Any ways frame looks sweet! Cant wait to see some pix once you get the body on the frame!

Keith

milehightoyz · 09-11-2005, 02:22 PM

is that the speedway watts link? if so hows the quality? ive heard they might be to thin for fullsize applications as they were designed more for streetrods/minis? what did you use to fab the center pivot brace?

SCOTI · 09-11-2005, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DM310

.... I will get one tomorrow.

It's tomorrow . . .... where's our pics?

Looks cool. Get some front, rear, & side shots w/the wheels bolted up @ ride height & dumped.

Frizzle Fry · 09-11-2005, 03:44 PM

Looks damn good. Just one question: Have you calculated how much force will be applied to the front trailing arm bolts? Seem like a lot of leverage with the bags that far forward. There's going to be a metric-$hit-ton of force there. I'd hate to see a sweet truck do a pole-vault. It looks like you know what you're doing though.

DM310 · 09-11-2005, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by milehightoyz

is that the speedway watts link? if so hows the quality? ive heard they might be to thin for fullsize applications as they were designed more for streetrods/minis? what did you use to fab the center pivot brace?

Yes it is a speedway watts link. The quality is good. Another member here used it with good results so I feel comfortable using it. The brace is 1" square tubing.

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Originally Posted by Frizzle Fry

Looks damn good. Just one question: Have you calculated how much force will be applied to the front trailing arm bolts? Seem like a lot of leverage with the bags that far forward. There's going to be a metric-$hit-ton of force there. I'd hate to see a sweet truck do a pole-vault. It looks like you know what you're doing though.

It should be just fine I hope

....... j/k The trailing arms and the ECE crossmember should hold up just fine.

67Fleet · 09-12-2005, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Frizzle Fry

Looks damn good. Just one question: Have you calculated how much force will be applied to the front trailing arm bolts? Seem like a lot of leverage with the bags that far forward. There's going to be a metric-$hit-ton of force there. I'd hate to see a sweet truck do a pole-vault. It looks like you know what you're doing though.

That's what I was thinking too, it would be an shame to break a trailing arm cruising down the highway. You may want to just double-check to see how much force is going to be put to the front of those arms. Picture a see-saw. There's a fat kid on the end of one side and you go to jump on the other side close to the pivot point. That fat kid ain't gonna budge but you're laying on the ground next to a broken board. I'm just a little concerned that's all. Not trying to dog your work at all because it looks incredible. I just think the physics of the bags that far forward will put a lot of stress on the pivot-point on the front of those trailing arms.

DM310 · 09-12-2005, 04:57 PM

Thanks guys. I will look into it and get some #'s for you guys

DM310 · 09-12-2005, 05:22 PM

Oh and if there is a prob I can always reinforce the bottom. I know it wont pull the mount off though. Does any know what the force (lbs) is for a stock coil location? If I can get that number I will beable to figure out what it is for the location of my bags/

LONGHAIR · 09-12-2005, 06:30 PM

I wouldn't be as worried about the pivot point as I would the trailing arms themselves. They were never designed to lift the truck from that point. The stock spring location decreases the leverage applied greatly. The closer you move the fulcrum to the pivot point, the more pressure is applied to the lever itself. That is the price you pay for the increased lift.

Frizzle Fry · 09-13-2005, 06:42 PM

Maybe some trailing arm reinforcement would add a little margin. Here's a kit from ECE:

1low1967 · 09-14-2005, 11:23 AM

I have my bags mounted at almost the same spot and I renforced the crap out of them just because of past experience with minis and guys not renforcing them, The pivots will be fine just watch the side flex on the arms. 3/16 plate steel the sides to box them or 2x3 box tube or the is a company out there that makes a fully boxed arm but I cant remember now. Good luck and if I can find some good pics of my truck I'll throw them up

BTW truck is looking sweet.

BK · 09-24-2005, 05:25 AM

yeah, the speedway watts link works well, im "that other guy" thats running one... well, was, before my panel burned... but im building another one using the same frame so itll be back. Also, i mounted my bags about 10-14" ahead of the original coil location, worked awesome!!! Could ride with low enough pressure for a sweet ride and be high enough to clear stuff around town, and also had 19" of lift at the back bumper, while only going 1/4" off from center with that watts link.

BK · 10-04-2005, 12:34 AM

Ive got a 10" notch that extends forward to clear the trailing arms, bags mounted about 10" or so ahead of original spring perches. sorry for the crappy pics, only pics i have of it right now from my phone. im running a watts link on this setup, but the only pic i have of the watts link is through the burnt floor of my panel

09-10-2005, 07:50 PM	#1
DM310 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 256	new pics of suspension here we go Attached Images __________________ 66 C10 (under construction) 1.5" crossmember drop 2" Z'ed frame 8" rear notch Watts-link Bagged DJM 3" spindles

09-10-2005, 08:01 PM	#2
67Fleet Outlandish Trends - FL Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Orlando Posts: 1,396	SWEET!! That looks awesome. Great work. Nice welds too!! Everything looks super-clean. I'd be proud to roll that. I do have a question for you though. You mounted your bags pretty far forward of the axle. That will probably be good for extra lift, but won't it put a lot of stress on them there? __________________ -Bret 67 short-fleet sold! Last edited by 67Fleet; 09-10-2005 at 08:03 PM.

09-10-2005, 08:11 PM	#3
DM310 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 256	Thank you!. Yes I am sure there will be added stress but the bags should be able to handle it. I am not sure on what psi I will have to run at ride height on the rear yet. __________________ 66 C10 (under construction) 1.5" crossmember drop 2" Z'ed frame 8" rear notch Watts-link Bagged DJM 3" spindles Last edited by DM310; 09-10-2005 at 08:12 PM.

09-10-2005, 09:54 PM	#4
bigred66 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pineville, Mo Posts: 123	looks AWESOME __________________ Atom (bigRed66) 1966- C10 1995- Wide Body Talon 1987- Dodge Raider (4 sale) 2000- 4-door Nissan Frontier 2003- Ford Focus (wife)

09-10-2005, 10:37 PM	#6
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09-10-2005, 10:28 PM	#5
milehightoyz AttentionDeficitDisorder Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: COLORADO Posts: 600	hey dm310, your trucking is looking awesome. ive been looking into old threads as i am about to do a z and crossmember drop on my 78 2wd blazer frame. will you lay out on your rails with 2"z and 1.5"xdrop without lca interference? also what other promblems have you encountered with this combo? steering? trans tunnel tranns xmember etc? thanks john

09-11-2005, 01:48 AM	#8
bigbluthng Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: canyon country, ca, USA Posts: 336	that looks pretty sweet. i'm interested in the watt's link. you have any pictures of that? __________________

09-11-2005, 02:46 AM	#9
r0lf- Hotwheels? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Pleasant Hill, CA Posts: 1,145	Yeah, the bags sure are mounted pretty far forward, what bags are they? 2500's or 2600's? You might want to move em back or you might not use all of that notch. __________________ 1978 Money Pit - CUSTOM DELUXE!!!!

09-11-2005, 03:31 AM	#10
milehightoyz AttentionDeficitDisorder Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: COLORADO Posts: 600	what did you plate your z with 1/4"?? same for front frame horns or slightly thinner? do you plan on boxing the inside? do you foresee any interference on steering shaft and upca? sorry for all the questions, trying to get all my ?'s answer before i whip the sawzall out

09-11-2005, 02:11 PM	#13
a squarecan Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 232	Looks damn nice! I love the set-up, sure the bags a mounted pretty far forward, but it should ride like a queen! I was going to go that route but I have gotten my self going a much different route that is turning into a lot of work! Any ways frame looks sweet! Cant wait to see some pix once you get the body on the frame! Keith

09-11-2005, 02:22 PM	#14
milehightoyz AttentionDeficitDisorder Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: COLORADO Posts: 600	is that the speedway watts link? if so hows the quality? ive heard they might be to thin for fullsize applications as they were designed more for streetrods/minis? what did you use to fab the center pivot brace?

09-11-2005, 03:44 PM	#16
Frizzle Fry Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hillsboro Oregon Posts: 6,449	Looks damn good. Just one question: Have you calculated how much force will be applied to the front trailing arm bolts? Seem like a lot of leverage with the bags that far forward. There's going to be a metric-$hit-ton of force there. I'd hate to see a sweet truck do a pole-vault. It looks like you know what you're doing though.

09-12-2005, 04:57 PM	#19
DM310 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 256	Thanks guys. I will look into it and get some #'s for you guys __________________ 66 C10 (under construction) 1.5" crossmember drop 2" Z'ed frame 8" rear notch Watts-link Bagged DJM 3" spindles

09-12-2005, 05:22 PM	#20
DM310 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 256	Oh and if there is a prob I can always reinforce the bottom. I know it wont pull the mount off though. Does any know what the force (lbs) is for a stock coil location? If I can get that number I will beable to figure out what it is for the location of my bags/ __________________ 66 C10 (under construction) 1.5" crossmember drop 2" Z'ed frame 8" rear notch Watts-link Bagged DJM 3" spindles

09-12-2005, 06:30 PM	#21
LONGHAIR just can't cover up my redneck Join Date: May 2004 Location: Columbus OH Posts: 11,414	I wouldn't be as worried about the pivot point as I would the trailing arms themselves. They were never designed to lift the truck from that point. The stock spring location decreases the leverage applied greatly. The closer you move the fulcrum to the pivot point, the more pressure is applied to the lever itself. That is the price you pay for the increased lift.



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09-13-2005, 06:42 PM	#22
Frizzle Fry Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hillsboro Oregon Posts: 6,449	Maybe some trailing arm reinforcement would add a little margin. Here's a kit from ECE:

09-14-2005, 11:23 AM	#23
1low1967 Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Mohnton Posts: 87	I have my bags mounted at almost the same spot and I renforced the crap out of them just because of past experience with minis and guys not renforcing them, The pivots will be fine just watch the side flex on the arms. 3/16 plate steel the sides to box them or 2x3 box tube or the is a company out there that makes a fully boxed arm but I cant remember now. Good luck and if I can find some good pics of my truck I'll throw them up BTW truck is looking sweet. Attached Images

09-24-2005, 05:25 AM	#24
BK BK Built Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Oroville, WA Posts: 478	yeah, the speedway watts link works well, im "that other guy" thats running one... well, was, before my panel burned... but im building another one using the same frame so itll be back. Also, i mounted my bags about 10-14" ahead of the original coil location, worked awesome!!! Could ride with low enough pressure for a sweet ride and be high enough to clear stuff around town, and also had 19" of lift at the back bumper, while only going 1/4" off from center with that watts link.

10-04-2005, 12:34 AM	#25
BK BK Built Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Oroville, WA Posts: 478	Ive got a 10" notch that extends forward to clear the trailing arms, bags mounted about 10" or so ahead of original spring perches. sorry for the crappy pics, only pics i have of it right now from my phone. im running a watts link on this setup, but the only pic i have of the watts link is through the burnt floor of my panel Attached Images

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