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Joe67 · 09-14-2005, 05:26 PM

http://home.comcast.net/~taylortsims/C10.html

1968 Chevy Truck
LS1/T56/4:10

Naturally Aspirated:
452rwhp 419rwtq

checkout the AC Setup, where is that from?

This thing is nice

stllookn · 09-14-2005, 06:58 PM

No...but I want it!

70c10swb · 09-14-2005, 07:14 PM

This guy is a member here, sweet truck

Infact i use to have his truck on my desktop backround ill try to find his SN

EDIT:-

His SN is First Gen

SCOTI · 09-14-2005, 07:23 PM

That's 'FirstGen' out of the Dallas TX area.

Joe67 · 09-15-2005, 07:34 AM

Thanks for the ID

*72CSTC5* · 09-15-2005, 11:32 PM

Nice Cadillac escalade motor 6.0liter motor in that truck. Nice job of hiding the diagnostic plug just under the steering column. Very nice job.

shifty · 09-15-2005, 11:39 PM

$5 to anyone other than the owner who can identify where the PCM is located.

shifty · 09-15-2005, 11:40 PM

PS - you can't cheat and use the new pictures that got put up tonight!

http://home.comcast.net/~taylortsims/more.html

*72CSTC5* · 09-15-2005, 11:47 PM

Did you install that motor in that truck shifty or you know the guy personally? That motor is a drive by wire motor. How did you all set that up with the old style gas pedal?

cypress TX 72 · 09-16-2005, 12:24 AM

That A/C system is Vintage Air out of Cibilo Texas - Next to San Antonio.
But the control plate looks custom made.
Extremely clean and well thought out.

RicksTrucks · 09-16-2005, 01:16 AM

I have seen it and heard it. When he stepped on it, it would wake the whole neighborhood up. Really sweet.

Joe67 · 09-16-2005, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cypress TX 72

That A/C system is Vintage Air out of Cibilo Texas - Next to San Antonio.
But the control plate looks custom made.
Extremely clean and well thought out

Taylor tells me the system and controls are from Classic Auto Air

That plate setup is definately something to think about...

shifty · 09-16-2005, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 72CSTC5

Did you install that motor in that truck shifty or you know the guy personally? That motor is a drive by wire motor. How did you all set that up with the old style gas pedal?

The pedal just pushes in reverse. I don't know exactly how Taylor did it (it's not my truck or motor). His is a 6.0L LS1. I've got a 5.7L LS1.

My gallery with pics of the engine and my truck are here:

http://satellitehead.com/gallery

XXL · 09-16-2005, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shifty

$5 to anyone other than the owner who can identify where the PCM is located.

Didn't see the pics... but a good place to hide stuff like that is under a high hump cover while leaving the low hump metal in place. That's where I'm planning to hide a multitude of stuff like that.

shifty · 09-18-2005, 11:12 AM

Good idea. I haven't thought about that. I think it would stretch that far, too.

I was thinking about fabbing a platform for it to sit on, but I don't want all the spaghetti. If I keep my blower and heater core, I can't really stick it there. Ah, this is the fun of it all though, right? Figuring alll this stuff out ....

*FormerMember* · 09-18-2005, 11:18 AM

I am confused with you guys calling a 6.0L an LS1?

LS1 is an all aluminum block 5.7L.

6.0L is an LQ4, Iron block with aluminum heads. Uses the same engine diagnostic codes and EFI as a LS1.

5.3L is an LM7. Iron block, with aluminum heads. Uses the same engine diagnostic codes and EFI as a LS1.

shifty · 09-18-2005, 11:32 AM

The LQ4 is a 6.0L and came in the Escalade. I think that engine is an LQ4. His uses and F-Body PCM. I think the intake (and maybe heads?) is different on the LQ4 versus the LS1, but isn't it the same block? The intake is a few inches taller and the peripherals (A/C, alternator, etc) are in diff't places.

I can't explain that one to you. I have a book on tweaking these things out downstairs, but I gotta get off my ass and get my engine in today, so I'm heading to the store to get supplies. Maybe FirstGen can stop in and explain.

*FormerMember* · 09-18-2005, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shifty

The LQ4 is a 6.0L and came in the Escalade. I think that engine is an LQ4. His uses and F-Body PCM. I think the intake (and maybe heads?) is different on the LQ4 versus the LS1, but isn't it the same block? The intake is a few inches taller and the peripherals (A/C, alternator, etc) are in diff't places.

I can't explain that one to you. I have a book on tweaking these things out downstairs, but I gotta get off my ass and get my engine in today, so I'm heading to the store to get supplies. Maybe FirstGen can stop in and explain.

LS1 is an 5.7L aluminum block.

LQ4 is a 6.0L iron block.

shifty · 09-18-2005, 04:02 PM

Gotcha ... I couldn't begin to tell you then. I guess that's something he'd hafta tell you. All I know for sure is that the intake is 2-3" taller on the LQ4.

XXL · 09-18-2005, 08:37 PM

There's an LS2 6.0L engine that's used in the Corvette and others...

http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...s/0405htp_ls2/

GenIIIShorty · 09-18-2005, 08:44 PM

:tj: the truck motors are known as "LS-based Vortec motors" really confusing, cuz they aren't really LS motors, and they aren't really Vortec motors (Gen II truck motors). the whole family of them are known as Gen III motors (that's where the GenIII in my SN comes from, was hoping for an LQ4, but ended up with a buick 455. darn), the new LS2 and LS7 are Gen IV motors. for those of you wondering Gen I is pre-LT1. this all applies to SBCs, the big blocks are numbered differently and the are on like Gen VII. also, for those of you wanting to mod an LS1/6 on the cheap (yeah, ok), the 6.0L truck intake manifolds have BETTER flow numbers than the stock LS1/6 intakes, they had to compromise to get it to fit under the really low hoods they put on the F-Bodies/Corvettes.

FirstGen · 09-18-2005, 10:10 PM

Wow I should feel special having a thread all about my truck! Thanks for all the nice compliments guys!

To clear up some questions about my setup. The wiring harness and TB was converted back to the F-body style cable driven setup, NOT drive by wire which would be almost as easy to put in just alot more expensive if you need to replace a componet.

The A/C is from Classic Auto Air adapted to work with the 6.0L compressor and run off my computer (PCM adjusts for idle air and suck when a/c is on).

The 4.8/5.3/5.7/6.0 are all GenIII motors just like previously stated. I call the 6.0 a ls1 mostly for clarity. Nobody would understand what is was if I didn't say that. It technically has its own letter denomination like LQ4/LQ9.
The 6.0 has an iron block. It takes the same rods, crank, main caps, and has all the exact same provisions as the all aluminum 5.7 block. The heads are different and actually much better flowing than the LS1 and flow slightly less than the LS6 heads. The intake is alot taller, about 3 inches I would say but also flows better than the LS1 intake and slightly less than the LS6 intake. I think the 6.0's are the best bang for the buck out there. At least when I bought mine 18 months ago it was...

There is a ton of small differences in these things but most componets can be easily swapped back and forth. For instance I have a 6.0 longblock with truck accessories, a f-body throttle body, truck MAF, '02 f-body PCM, f-body tremec T-56, etc... you get the idea...

The iron blocks are ideal for big cubic inch buildups and lots of nitrous. You won't find many 408 stroker LS1 motors that aren't using a 6.0 iron block!

09-14-2005, 05:26 PM	#1
Joe67 67 is sold Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Troy, Michigan Posts: 6,733	Anyone know this '68 Stepside from Texas? http://home.comcast.net/~taylortsims/C10.html 1968 Chevy Truck LS1/T56/4:10 Naturally Aspirated: 452rwhp 419rwtq checkout the AC Setup, where is that from? This thing is nice __________________ Joe - Formerly 67c10step ------------------------------- 1967 Chevy Stepside - ECE 4/6, fuelcell, 5lug - SOLD gr8lakes - My ebay auctions Click here to order forum apparel :: Click here to become a subscribing member

09-14-2005, 06:58 PM	#2
stllookn Saving 1 truck at a time! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kent, WA Posts: 6,465	No...but I want it! __________________ '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 400/TH400 '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 468/TH400w/buckets '72 C20 Halfhorn (Longhorn w/o cab and front clip) '69 Flxible Cruiser (look up ugly in the dictionary)

09-14-2005, 07:14 PM	#3
70c10swb no brain no headache Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cape Cod MA Posts: 567	This guy is a member here, sweet truck Infact i use to have his truck on my desktop backround ill try to find his SN EDIT:- His SN is First Gen __________________ 1996 GMC Sierra z71 1970 SWB 2wd (project) Last edited by 70c10swb; 09-14-2005 at 07:23 PM.

09-14-2005, 07:23 PM	#4
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 22,076	That's 'FirstGen' out of the Dallas TX area. __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

09-15-2005, 07:34 AM	#5
Joe67 67 is sold Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Troy, Michigan Posts: 6,733	Thanks for the ID __________________ Joe - Formerly 67c10step ------------------------------- 1967 Chevy Stepside - ECE 4/6, fuelcell, 5lug - SOLD gr8lakes - My ebay auctions Click here to order forum apparel :: Click here to become a subscribing member

09-15-2005, 11:32 PM	#6
72CSTC5 Account Suspended Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Deer Park, Tx. Posts: 2,522	Nice Cadillac escalade motor 6.0liter motor in that truck. Nice job of hiding the diagnostic plug just under the steering column. Very nice job.

09-15-2005, 11:39 PM	#7
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,373	$5 to anyone other than the owner who can identify where the PCM is located. __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM.

09-15-2005, 11:40 PM	#8
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,373	PS - you can't cheat and use the new pictures that got put up tonight! http://home.comcast.net/~taylortsims/more.html __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM.

09-15-2005, 11:47 PM	#9
72CSTC5 Account Suspended Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Deer Park, Tx. Posts: 2,522	Did you install that motor in that truck shifty or you know the guy personally? That motor is a drive by wire motor. How did you all set that up with the old style gas pedal?

09-16-2005, 12:24 AM	#10
cypress TX 72 Saving one 72 at a time!! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 261	That A/C system is Vintage Air out of Cibilo Texas - Next to San Antonio. But the control plate looks custom made. Extremely clean and well thought out.

09-16-2005, 01:16 AM	#11
RicksTrucks Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Claremore, OK 74017 Posts: 2,639	I have seen it and heard it. When he stepped on it, it would wake the whole neighborhood up. Really sweet. __________________ 68 Short Stepside C-10 69 SWB C-10 70 Flatbed C-20 70 LWB C-20 BB402 70 LWB C-10 CST 70 LWB C-10 CST 71 Short Stepside Cheyenne C-10 72 LWB C-10 72 Blazer 4x4 4spd 95 Jeep Cherokee 4x4

09-18-2005, 11:12 AM	#15
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,373	Good idea. I haven't thought about that. I think it would stretch that far, too. I was thinking about fabbing a platform for it to sit on, but I don't want all the spaghetti. If I keep my blower and heater core, I can't really stick it there. Ah, this is the fun of it all though, right? Figuring alll this stuff out .... __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM.

09-18-2005, 11:18 AM	#16
FormerMember Account Suspended Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,051	I am confused with you guys calling a 6.0L an LS1? LS1 is an all aluminum block 5.7L. 6.0L is an LQ4, Iron block with aluminum heads. Uses the same engine diagnostic codes and EFI as a LS1. 5.3L is an LM7. Iron block, with aluminum heads. Uses the same engine diagnostic codes and EFI as a LS1.

09-18-2005, 11:32 AM	#17
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,373	The LQ4 is a 6.0L and came in the Escalade. I think that engine is an LQ4. His uses and F-Body PCM. I think the intake (and maybe heads?) is different on the LQ4 versus the LS1, but isn't it the same block? The intake is a few inches taller and the peripherals (A/C, alternator, etc) are in diff't places. I can't explain that one to you. I have a book on tweaking these things out downstairs, but I gotta get off my ass and get my engine in today, so I'm heading to the store to get supplies. Maybe FirstGen can stop in and explain. __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM.

09-18-2005, 04:02 PM	#19
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,373	Gotcha ... I couldn't begin to tell you then. I guess that's something he'd hafta tell you. All I know for sure is that the intake is 2-3" taller on the LQ4. __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM.



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09-18-2005, 08:37 PM	#20
XXL Señor Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Edge of the world Posts: 5,367	There's an LS2 6.0L engine that's used in the Corvette and others... http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...s/0405htp_ls2/ __________________ Craigslist \| ebay \| Engrishtees \| www.myattitudesucks.com \| Follow me on Twitter

09-18-2005, 08:44 PM	#21
GenIIIShorty JUNK COLLECTOR!!!!! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 514	:tj: the truck motors are known as "LS-based Vortec motors" really confusing, cuz they aren't really LS motors, and they aren't really Vortec motors (Gen II truck motors). the whole family of them are known as Gen III motors (that's where the GenIII in my SN comes from, was hoping for an LQ4, but ended up with a buick 455. darn), the new LS2 and LS7 are Gen IV motors. for those of you wondering Gen I is pre-LT1. this all applies to SBCs, the big blocks are numbered differently and the are on like Gen VII. also, for those of you wanting to mod an LS1/6 on the cheap (yeah, ok), the 6.0L truck intake manifolds have BETTER flow numbers than the stock LS1/6 intakes, they had to compromise to get it to fit under the really low hoods they put on the F-Bodies/Corvettes. __________________ baby The dark side! 2000 XLT PSD F-250 4x4! Offroad package 1970 C10 Short-step soon to be short fleet, maybe? Corvette in truck's clothing in work! Corvette IFS, IRS, TPI and Doug Nash 4+3 Last edited by GenIIIShorty; 09-18-2005 at 08:55 PM.

09-18-2005, 10:10 PM	#22
FirstGen Just Don't Stop! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dallas Posts: 1,239	Wow I should feel special having a thread all about my truck! Thanks for all the nice compliments guys! To clear up some questions about my setup. The wiring harness and TB was converted back to the F-body style cable driven setup, NOT drive by wire which would be almost as easy to put in just alot more expensive if you need to replace a componet. The A/C is from Classic Auto Air adapted to work with the 6.0L compressor and run off my computer (PCM adjusts for idle air and suck when a/c is on). The 4.8/5.3/5.7/6.0 are all GenIII motors just like previously stated. I call the 6.0 a ls1 mostly for clarity. Nobody would understand what is was if I didn't say that. It technically has its own letter denomination like LQ4/LQ9. The 6.0 has an iron block. It takes the same rods, crank, main caps, and has all the exact same provisions as the all aluminum 5.7 block. The heads are different and actually much better flowing than the LS1 and flow slightly less than the LS6 heads. The intake is alot taller, about 3 inches I would say but also flows better than the LS1 intake and slightly less than the LS6 intake. I think the 6.0's are the best bang for the buck out there. At least when I bought mine 18 months ago it was... There is a ton of small differences in these things but most componets can be easily swapped back and forth. For instance I have a 6.0 longblock with truck accessories, a f-body throttle body, truck MAF, '02 f-body PCM, f-body tremec T-56, etc... you get the idea... The iron blocks are ideal for big cubic inch buildups and lots of nitrous. You won't find many 408 stroker LS1 motors that aren't using a 6.0 iron block! __________________ 1968 C10 build in process TT LSA/6L90e/9"

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