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Old 10-18-2005, 01:39 PM   #1
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Unhappy Help Please other HEI problems



so ive got a 70 c20 (camper special not really important)
and im in the process of rebuilding it
Got an HEI Dizz for it and then confusion
the diagrams tell me to bypass the ballast resistor i never had one
well ummm theres a problem it tells me to run bat+ on the coil to the "I or i" terminal on the starter soliniod i dont have a third terminal on that
just the main line in and the switch terminal
the second problem is in my head power to the coil is provided by the starter??? where is the key in this circuit??? i know i would be able to start the engine but with out the fuse box in the circuit i wont be able to shut it off?
so to recap wheres my third terminal?
Is this going to work? will i be able to shut it off without a bat kill switch?
please send info thanks in advance
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Old 10-18-2005, 02:08 PM   #2
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Re: Help Please other HEI problems

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When I installed my HEI, I connected the + terminal of the HEI to the ignition
ing terminal on the ignition switch. Use a 14 or larger wire.
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Old 10-18-2005, 02:16 PM   #3
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Re: Help Please other HEI problems

fist off the original wire feeding the points dist is a resistance(ballast) wire and must be completely eliminated and a new switched wire installed to the distributor and when the key is turned off this wire goes dead turning the engine off// the 3rd wire (yellow)from the starter on points vehicles is also eliminated because it is just a resistor bypass for the points system/// look thru the FAQ section for better instructiopns
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Old 10-18-2005, 02:16 PM   #4
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Re: Help Please other HEI problems

I connected mine to the IGN UNFUSED terminal in my Fuse box.

Check out the FAQ on the subject:

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Old 10-18-2005, 02:18 PM   #5
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Re: Help Please other HEI problems

Welcome to the forums, Jabba.

Here is a list of articles from the "FAQ" forum here which should help.

Converting to HEI on an inline 6 (lots of wiring pictures and other pics):
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=148346

HEI swap (general):
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...ad.php?t=13698

Step By Step Upgrade to HEI Distributor:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...ad.php?t=17403

Determining proper HEI advance curve for your application:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...ad.php?t=62040

Hope this helps. If you ever want to know about some project, go to the FAQ forum here. You will find an "index" thread that shows every article published to the FAQ. A link to that is HERE:

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=157669

Welcome again. Good luck, post again if you need more help.
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Old 10-18-2005, 03:34 PM   #6
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Definitely take a look at shifty's "Converting to HEI on an inline 6" thread even if you have a V8. He shows how to install a new distributor power wire in the original location on the big square connector on the firewall that plugs into the back of the fuse panel. This is by far the cleanest way to do it.
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Old 10-18-2005, 06:14 PM   #7
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Sweet awsome thankx all ok now i have another problem
first some info '70 350 origanal block bored .030 over
'72 350 Heads solid rockers .030 over flat top pistons & rings
Weiand Stealth Intake eldbrk ?750cfm? carb(not sure on the exact Details) Deatils) eldbrk Energizer Cam hydrolic lifters crome molly rods
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rebuilt Th350
ok the crankshaft was first an orielly's reman got the bolts hand tight and it wouldnt turn Arnolds motor said they got a crank that would work perfect
the arnolds reman came with matched bearings in the box (.030over) it went in nice and pretty torqued em down and it spun nice the pistons went in with out any complications but the crank was hard to turn arnolds said it should be fine well its all put back together in the truck and it will not turn
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the starter works perfect(865C/A bat) i put a half in. dr. breaker bar on the Harmonic Bal. bolt and all i can do is tighten the bolt im afraid it will bust or strip if i go any tighter This truck has been my life blood for the last 15 years, im only 23, its in me, i cant live without it please someone give me the correct answer it saddens me greatly that ive done allllll this work and now .......... Jabba

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Old 10-18-2005, 06:19 PM   #8
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Re: Help Please other HEI problems

You'll get more responses if you start a new thread for this new issue.
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k i will can i delete this thread?
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Old 10-18-2005, 06:36 PM   #10
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You can delete it, but most people don't. If nobody posts more responses, the thread will be consumed slowly by the vast database.
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Old 10-18-2005, 06:49 PM   #11
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without search enabled I like to see these subjects come up once in a while. I definetly don't have everything memorized yet!!
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Old 10-18-2005, 06:53 PM   #12
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Re: Help Please other HEI problems

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without search enabled I like to see these subjects come up once in a while. I definetly don't have everything memorized yet!!
That's why I made the FAQ index thread, not to help you guys but because I can't ever remember where I saw anything.
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Old 10-18-2005, 06:55 PM   #13
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Re: Help Please other HEI problems

pjmoreland or shifty,
Does that tie-in of the power wire, also pertain to V8s??? I have my power wire connected at the fuse box. I guess what I am asking is the wiring the same for the power wire.
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Old 10-18-2005, 07:47 PM   #14
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53burb,

From what I understand, regardless of whether you have a V8, V6 or an L6, you're going to have a power wire that will start at the firewall and terminate at the (+) side of the HEI distributor - you CAN reuse the old wire, but you will want to replace it with something more robust. Pictures and examples are in my HEI swap thread for inline L6's above, just use something 12-14gauge and buy a connector from Napa as advertised in my thread. They're a few cents each. I give instructions on how to remove the firewall block, remove the wire from the block, insert the new wire into the block, then all you gotta do is addd a new spade and wire it up. It's easy, look at the thread, you'll be amazed (I was)

There should be no additional branches or splits in the wire. The HEI wire is typically pink or red, but I've heard of other colors. My stock wire with the points system was a white cloth wrapped wire, I replaced it with gas/heat/etc impermeable wire from home depot.

You will need to rewire or buy a new harness, whatever you think is easier. I will say this though: I do not show installation of an inline fuse - this would be a good idea to add.
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Old 10-19-2005, 07:11 PM   #15
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Re: Help Please other HEI problems

Thanks Shifty!!!!!
My HEI is currently connected to my fuse box (Ign Unfused) plug, like most people. I will definately do this connection soon, and I will also use my inline fuse, also. I like to use it as a cheap theft deterrent.

Thanks again,
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