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kevinr1970 · 12-08-2005, 02:28 AM

I was just looking closely at the gauge cluster in my donor '84 Blazer.
The oil pressure is measured in kPa and goes from 0 to 400.
The temp gauge is celcius and goes from 40 to 125.
The fuel gauge doesn't have an E and an F but little characters representing empty, half and full.
The weirdest one is the speedometer, or more specifically the odometer. It is 6 places with a 1/10 of a mile spot (total of 7). It reads 181098.7. I've never seen a 6 place odometer in this vintage gauge cluster.
I would guess it is a Canadian spec truck except MPH is dominant in the speedo?

86 GMG · 12-08-2005, 10:47 AM

maybe the speedo and gas have been changed for use in the US but the other havn't the speedo is cool though maybe a great factory switch modification

84 PUMPKIN · 12-08-2005, 11:26 AM

The six digit odometer is found in most (if not all) medium duty Chevy/GMC trucks made in the U.S. I've seen 25 or 30 medium duty clusters (while robbing the factory tachs) and they all had 6 digits. The gauges for the charging system and fuel are standard issue for 80/81- 87/91 style clusters. I think the fuel gauge changed from the E and F style when the speedo went to 85 mph. Don't know about the oil and temp gauges.

cliffsta · 12-08-2005, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 84 PUMPKIN

The six digit odometer is found in most (if not all) medium duty Chevy/GMC trucks made in the U.S. I've seen 25 or 30 medium duty clusters (while robbing the factory tachs) and they all had 6 digits. The gauges for the charging system and fuel are standard issue for 80/81- 87/91 style clusters. I think the fuel gauge changed from the E and F style when the speedo went to 85 mph. Don't know about the oil and temp gauges.

hmm.... well my truck only has a 5 digit + 1/10 mile odometer. My fuel gauge is E and F but I have the 85 MPH speedo.

I think that around this time GM just threw whatever gauges in these trucks.

84 PUMPKIN · 12-08-2005, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cliffsta

hmm.... well my truck only has a 5 digit + 1/10 mile odometer. My fuel gauge is E and F but I have the 85 MPH speedo.

I think that around this time GM just threw whatever gauges in these trucks.

If your truck is the '80 C10 in your sig then it's a light duty truck. Light duty trucks had 5 digit odometers and medium duty trucks had 6 digit odometers. I guess I missed the fuel gauge changeover by a year or two. Maybe 82 or 83.

You are correct about GM using whatever parts they had laying around. In the words of Captkaos "We're dealing with GM here so nothing is chiseled in stone".

longhorn71 · 12-09-2005, 01:30 AM

the last trucks here to have mph markings on the large numbers were 77s the kpa oil pressure and metric temp gagues stated around 81

Canada when to the metric system in 78

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evan · 12-12-2005, 06:26 PM

Is it just your camera, or are the needles in the first picture orange while the needles in the second picture are yellow???

Gazoo · 12-12-2005, 07:06 PM

The fuel gauge is definately Canadian - the F and E letters are always replaced by symbols in order to not conflict in English/French canadian markets. New vehicles, today will have the same differences.

TEAM THC · 12-12-2005, 07:40 PM

Very Interesting....................

84 PUMPKIN · 12-12-2005, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Gazoo

The fuel gauge is definately Canadian - the F and E letters are always replaced by symbols in order to not conflict in English/French canadian markets. New vehicles, today will have the same differences.

That is definately NOT just a fuel gauge for Canada. My 84 C10 and 86 K20 have that same style fuel gauge. Both made in Flint Michigan and delivered new to Alabama.

evan · 12-12-2005, 09:02 PM

My truck was built at the Oshawa, Ontario plant and delivered to Alberta and I've got oil pressure in PSI , a temp gauge that goes from C to H, and an E to F fuel gauge. At least they left the speedometer in km/h. At least they left the speedometer in km/h.

kevinr1970 · 12-12-2005, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by evan

Is it just your camera, or are the needles in the first picture orange while the needles in the second picture are yellow???

Must be the flash or something - they are all orange.

evan · 12-12-2005, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kevinr1970

Must be the flash or something - they are all orange.

Yeah, I just noticed the same thing happened in my pictures.

SanitysBane · 12-12-2005, 11:58 PM

I bought a Canadian Cluster from Russell, and it has the normal markings for full and empty on the gas tank. Everything on the cluster is the same, minus the speedo which is prodimiatly(sp?) in Khm, instead of Mph, but it looks like a 120 mph speedo which is why I did it.

longhorn71 · 12-13-2005, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Gazoo

The fuel gauge is definately Canadian - the F and E letters are always replaced by symbols in order to not conflict in English/French canadian markets. New vehicles, today will have the same differences.

nope.........my 2002 dodge has the f and e markings for the fuel gage as does my blazer (82) and the 05 chevys at work a marked f and e as well

Gazoo · 12-13-2005, 08:41 AM

I stand very corrected - my bad... Apparantly we'll go back to the original theory that GM is more random than logic... Apologies...

12-08-2005, 02:28 AM	#1
kevinr1970 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 2,316	Canadian Gauges? I was just looking closely at the gauge cluster in my donor '84 Blazer. The oil pressure is measured in kPa and goes from 0 to 400. The temp gauge is celcius and goes from 40 to 125. The fuel gauge doesn't have an E and an F but little characters representing empty, half and full. The weirdest one is the speedometer, or more specifically the odometer. It is 6 places with a 1/10 of a mile spot (total of 7). It reads 181098.7. I've never seen a 6 place odometer in this vintage gauge cluster. I would guess it is a Canadian spec truck except MPH is dominant in the speedo? __________________ 2009 Honda Fit CfC (bsf 44.9 mpg) 2000 Tahoe Limited 1991 GMC CrewCab Dually 2wd, will end up swb, not dually and replace CCswb below 1991 GMC CrewCab Dually 4x4, just going to fix things up for now 1982/1989 K5/GMC Jimmy 2wd 1987 GMC 1/2 ton swb 2wd Crew (sold) Last edited by kevinr1970; 10-04-2007 at 11:39 PM.

12-08-2005, 10:47 AM	#2
86 GMG Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Tulsa Oklahoma Posts: 943	Re: Canadian Gauges? maybe the speedo and gas have been changed for use in the US but the other havn't the speedo is cool though maybe a great factory switch modification __________________ square body trucks an addiction or an investment either way they consume all my extra time and money

12-08-2005, 11:26 AM	#3
84 PUMPKIN Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Alabama Posts: 166	Re: Canadian Gauges? The six digit odometer is found in most (if not all) medium duty Chevy/GMC trucks made in the U.S. I've seen 25 or 30 medium duty clusters (while robbing the factory tachs) and they all had 6 digits. The gauges for the charging system and fuel are standard issue for 80/81- 87/91 style clusters. I think the fuel gauge changed from the E and F style when the speedo went to 85 mph. Don't know about the oil and temp gauges. Last edited by 84 PUMPKIN; 12-08-2005 at 12:29 PM.

12-09-2005, 01:30 AM	#6
longhorn71 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: CANADA Posts: 1,681	Re: Canadian Gauges? the last trucks here to have mph markings on the large numbers were 77s the kpa oil pressure and metric temp gagues stated around 81 Canada when to the metric system in 78 .

12-12-2005, 06:26 PM	#7
evan Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: SK, Canada Posts: 488	Re: Canadian Gauges? Is it just your camera, or are the needles in the first picture orange while the needles in the second picture are yellow??? __________________ Evan B.

12-12-2005, 07:06 PM	#8
Gazoo Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 63	Re: Canadian Gauges? The fuel gauge is definately Canadian - the F and E letters are always replaced by symbols in order to not conflict in English/French canadian markets. New vehicles, today will have the same differences. __________________ 71 short fleetside

12-12-2005, 07:40 PM	#9
TEAM THC CUSTOM CHEVY FIEND Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: CHICO CA Posts: 227	Re: Canadian Gauges? Very Interesting....................

12-12-2005, 09:02 PM	#11
evan Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: SK, Canada Posts: 488	Re: Canadian Gauges? My truck was built at the Oshawa, Ontario plant and delivered to Alberta and I've got oil pressure in PSI , a temp gauge that goes from C to H, and an E to F fuel gauge. At least they left the speedometer in km/h. At least they left the speedometer in km/h. __________________ Evan B. Last edited by evan; 12-12-2005 at 09:05 PM.

12-12-2005, 11:58 PM	#14
SanitysBane Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Lubbock, Texas Posts: 2,121	Re: Canadian Gauges? I bought a Canadian Cluster from Russell, and it has the normal markings for full and empty on the gas tank. Everything on the cluster is the same, minus the speedo which is prodimiatly(sp?) in Khm, instead of Mph, but it looks like a 120 mph speedo which is why I did it. __________________ '96 Nissan Pathfinder '02 Firebird Trans Am. '88 K5 Blazer

12-13-2005, 08:41 AM	#16
Gazoo Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 63	Re: Canadian Gauges? I stand very corrected - my bad... Apparantly we'll go back to the original theory that GM is more random than logic... Apologies... __________________ 71 short fleetside



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