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matt_field · 12-09-2005, 11:59 AM

what bbc headers will fit my 72 2wd swb truck? the engine is a 402, it has what looks like square port exhaust, the headers i have leak really bad and i took them off and they look round? do they make headers with square ports? thanks, also what do i order them for, if i remember right was it a chevelle?

Bill72BB · 12-09-2005, 12:06 PM

Matt ; I'm real happy with the one I have in my Sig, and here is an old photo showing the clearence .

**1970 CST Short Wide** · 12-09-2005, 02:00 PM

I have the same ones Bill has.

I LIKE UM They fit real nice and install easy

cdyblu · 12-09-2005, 04:16 PM

I have Hookers on my 71 GMC. Two sugestions invest in a good set of locking header bolts and have you headers jet hot coated, it's well worth the cost

MrC1 · 12-09-2005, 05:13 PM

What exactly does the coaating do for you besides prevent rust?

I'm thiinkin we should bang our heads together and make a list (maybe a spreadsheet format?) of the best headers for each engine/body combo as far as general fit, spark plug access, ground clearance, sound, leaks, price, etc, etc. What say yousguys?

ratrod67 · 12-09-2005, 08:53 PM

Are you looking for "shorty style" headers? I tried the Chevelle shortys from Jegs and they didn't fit my 72 with BBC. I went to a long tube header from Hedman. They fit pretty good but are not exactly the tube size I wanted. I tried Hooker Super Comps first and there was no way they would fit. They hit the oilpan and the frame. Then I went to Hooker Comps after the Jegs guy said he knew for a fact they would fit. Nope. Here's a couple pics of the Headmans on my truck. The collectors are kinda low but my truck is pretty low compared to most.

cdyblu · 12-09-2005, 10:49 PM

My Hooker comps fit great.

The coating prevents rust, and realy helps keep under hood temps down.

It looks nice too

race-n-jason · 12-10-2005, 10:15 AM

I used Hedman shorties for a chevelle, and they worked great for me. I did have to trim the passenger frame rail a little, but no big deal.

Here is the right up --> LINK

FRENCHBLUE72 · 12-10-2005, 06:26 PM

I am in the process of installing some headman headders on my 454 in my 72 2wd truck if they fit well I will let you know and post some pics..

matt_field · 12-11-2005, 08:53 PM

hey ratrod... do the hedmans seal nice? fit nice on the heads? etc.. what was the part number on them, i went to the site and didnt see anything for a 1/2 67-72 with a big block, all it was was 3/4-1 tons for the big block headers, if you could help out thatd be awesome

matt_field · 12-11-2005, 09:02 PM

also, any starter issues with any of these headers?

ratrod67 · 12-11-2005, 09:28 PM

The part # for mine is 500-69820. They seem to be a good quality header so far. The tube size is 1 7/8 compared to the 2 1/4 I wanted. I'm using a mini starter so there is plenty of clearance. The flanges are super thick. I had to get longer ARP bolts. These use a "Ball and socket" collector and are supposed to be leakfree. I'll have to see over time. This is my 1st time to use Headmans.

**RPOZ11** · 12-11-2005, 10:00 PM

I purchased Thorley Tri-Y's and will be installing them on my truck
Will post those when mounted...
I like the mini starter idea; that will greatly help that area!

FRENCHBLUE72 · 12-11-2005, 11:34 PM

Here are the headman headders I installed this weekend.. The fit is nice and I really have no complaints of them they do hang below the frame but for now I will live with em that way... Mine are not coated but for the $$ I paid for em I got a pretty good deal.. Heres a few pics...

matt_field · 12-12-2005, 12:17 AM

hey french, whats the number on those, i like those headers but would like them ceramic coated, do they make those exact ones in that? thanks

Scottb · 12-12-2005, 02:24 AM

I'm poor so i bought the cheapie flow-tech ones from kragen- they work pretty good- about 4 years after i bought em, one of the pipes cracked at the collector- but i just rewelded it with no problems- sound really good and seem to flow well (was a world of difference between them and the cast ones). I highly recommend aluminum collector gaskets or you will replace gaskets every month or two...

Johns70 · 12-12-2005, 12:13 PM

i bought the dynomax ceramic coated headers for thr big block and they fit great and seal well except for the collectors, i ended up getting the aluminum gaskets and they worked great no more problems at all. just remember to run the engine a few times and cool and tighten the header bolts in between and they shouldn't leak.

70rs/ss · 12-12-2005, 12:36 PM

I used the Hooker comps for a 67-68 chevy truck. The ports matched the semi square port of the "oval port" heads. The headmans have a round port which does not match up well and causes leaks. The ball and socket thing sucks as well. The bolts continuously loosen and they leak. nylocks do not work because they melt. I guess if you dent the nut they may not back out. I like the Hookers way better than the Headmans (but I have both!)

matt_field · 12-12-2005, 03:26 PM

ratrod, does the silver coating stay on there nice? did you get the arp studs or the arp bolts? im gonna order that setup, it loooks nice

FRENCHBLUE72 · 12-12-2005, 07:10 PM

Matt mine are just like rat rods without the ceramic coating... The best I can do for you on a part# is 69110.. I bought my headders from board member .30 over he maybe able to help you out better on the part#

ratrod67 · 12-13-2005, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matt_field

ratrod, does the silver coating stay on there nice? did you get the arp studs or the arp bolts? im gonna order that setup, it loooks nice

I'm not sure how the coating will hold up. It's my 1st set of Headmans and they have only been on there a couple weeks. Hopefully they will last as long as the Hooker headers I usually use. I bought the ARP bolts to use with them.

kelsfine69 · 12-13-2005, 11:17 PM

I have Hooker Super Comps. Bought them 10 years ago and got tired of painting them black. So I took them out and had them coated. Didn't have to lift the engine but the did have to come out the bottom. Coating was worth every penny.

12-09-2005, 11:59 AM	#1
matt_field Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Detroit Lakes, Minnesota Posts: 885	bbc headers? what bbc headers will fit my 72 2wd swb truck? the engine is a 402, it has what looks like square port exhaust, the headers i have leak really bad and i took them off and they look round? do they make headers with square ports? thanks, also what do i order them for, if i remember right was it a chevelle? __________________ 1971 k5 blazer 80k mike survivor 1972 3/4 ton 4wd Cummins 12v 1967 swb 2wd 427bbc 1968 4wd shortbox 1971 Cheyenne swb k10 unrestored 1971 Cheyenne super 40k 402bb survivor 1967 Chevy k10 (first truck) 1968 L78 camaro survivor 18k miles 1969 z28 survivor 60k miles 1969 z28 survivor 39k miles 1969 z28 rs survivor 80k miles

12-09-2005, 12:06 PM	#2
Bill72BB Thats the Hillbilly way Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Torrance,Ca Posts: 5,979	Re: bbc headers? Matt ; I'm real happy with the one I have in my Sig, and here is an old photo showing the clearence . Attached Images __________________ BILL Torrance Calif 90504 Member DUF Club Member Old Farts Club 72 3/4ton Custom Camper BB402/400 trans Dynomax Cerama-coat headers , Hei distributor ,Edelbrock 1411 air,ps,pb,leafsprings ,98 chevy 60/40 seat,S10 shoulder belts tilt,3.54 Dana 60 rear. 16" Eagle wheels with LT265/75 16 tires,Gaylord Lid,H4 headlights with 100W relay conversion. " If I knew I was going to live this long I would have taken better care of myself " Marriage changes passion...suddenly you're in bed with a relative. A GUY'S PRAYER.... Lord, I pray for a nympho with huge boobs who owns a liquor store and likes to fish and hunt and has a Harley .Amen ,

12-09-2005, 02:00 PM	#3
1970 CST Short Wide Senior Moment Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pittsburg Ca Posts: 4,185	Re: bbc headers? I have the same ones Bill has. I LIKE UM They fit real nice and install easy __________________ 1970 CST LS 1 6 speed Ford 9 inch Detroit Tru Track, Dakota Didgital, Vintage Air, QA1 Coil Overs Front & Rear Lots of FUN 2013 GMC PU, Oldest Son 71 GMC LWB. QA1 Suspension, Angry SB. Youngest Son 2019 GMC Diesil Dually. Youngest Son 2017 Toyota SUV Daughters car 2018 Traverse , Wife’s Ride Pittsburg Ca 94565

12-09-2005, 04:16 PM	#4
cdyblu Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Green Bay, WI Posts: 44	Re: bbc headers? I have Hookers on my 71 GMC. Two sugestions invest in a good set of locking header bolts and have you headers jet hot coated, it's well worth the cost

12-09-2005, 05:13 PM	#5
MrC1 Dork For Days Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Dallas Posts: 407	Re: bbc headers? What exactly does the coaating do for you besides prevent rust? I'm thiinkin we should bang our heads together and make a list (maybe a spreadsheet format?) of the best headers for each engine/body combo as far as general fit, spark plug access, ground clearance, sound, leaks, price, etc, etc. What say yousguys? __________________ 1972 C20, 402/700R4 - My first classic truck, bought in September 2005. 85% transformed from "Farm" to "Cool" status! 1970 Dodge Challenger 440, 4sp (my other toy) 12.67 @ 117 MPH, with a pathetic 2.022 60' 2007 Dodge Charger SRT-8 2008 Cadillac CTS All-American garage, baby!

12-09-2005, 08:53 PM	#6
ratrod67 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: DFW Texas Posts: 2,269	Re: bbc headers? Are you looking for "shorty style" headers? I tried the Chevelle shortys from Jegs and they didn't fit my 72 with BBC. I went to a long tube header from Hedman. They fit pretty good but are not exactly the tube size I wanted. I tried Hooker Super Comps first and there was no way they would fit. They hit the oilpan and the frame. Then I went to Hooker Comps after the Jegs guy said he knew for a fact they would fit. Nope. Here's a couple pics of the Headmans on my truck. The collectors are kinda low but my truck is pretty low compared to most. Attached Images

12-09-2005, 10:49 PM	#7
cdyblu Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Green Bay, WI Posts: 44	Re: bbc headers? My Hooker comps fit great. The coating prevents rust, and realy helps keep under hood temps down. It looks nice too

12-10-2005, 10:15 AM	#8
race-n-jason -Praise the Lowered- Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Garland, Tx, USA Posts: 280	Re: bbc headers? I used Hedman shorties for a chevelle, and they worked great for me. I did have to trim the passenger frame rail a little, but no big deal. Here is the right up --> LINK __________________ Race-N-Jason ('71 Chevy C-10 LWB 454/TH350) ('07 Dodge Ram 2500, 5.9 Cummins/6-speed Manual)

12-10-2005, 06:26 PM	#9
FRENCHBLUE72 PROJECT 7DEUCE Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: GRANTS PASS OR Posts: 21,606	Re: bbc headers? I am in the process of installing some headman headders on my 454 in my 72 2wd truck if they fit well I will let you know and post some pics.. __________________ GO BIG GREEN GO DUCKS MEMBER #6377 72 k-5 daily driver 6'' lift 35'' 350-350-205 slowly getting rust free. Project "7DEUCE" check out my build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=267665 Tim Powell..R.I.P EastSideLowlife..... R.I.P..

12-11-2005, 08:53 PM	#10
matt_field Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Detroit Lakes, Minnesota Posts: 885	Re: bbc headers? hey ratrod... do the hedmans seal nice? fit nice on the heads? etc.. what was the part number on them, i went to the site and didnt see anything for a 1/2 67-72 with a big block, all it was was 3/4-1 tons for the big block headers, if you could help out thatd be awesome __________________ 1971 k5 blazer 80k mike survivor 1972 3/4 ton 4wd Cummins 12v 1967 swb 2wd 427bbc 1968 4wd shortbox 1971 Cheyenne swb k10 unrestored 1971 Cheyenne super 40k 402bb survivor 1967 Chevy k10 (first truck) 1968 L78 camaro survivor 18k miles 1969 z28 survivor 60k miles 1969 z28 survivor 39k miles 1969 z28 rs survivor 80k miles

12-11-2005, 09:02 PM	#11
matt_field Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Detroit Lakes, Minnesota Posts: 885	Re: bbc headers? also, any starter issues with any of these headers? __________________ 1971 k5 blazer 80k mike survivor 1972 3/4 ton 4wd Cummins 12v 1967 swb 2wd 427bbc 1968 4wd shortbox 1971 Cheyenne swb k10 unrestored 1971 Cheyenne super 40k 402bb survivor 1967 Chevy k10 (first truck) 1968 L78 camaro survivor 18k miles 1969 z28 survivor 60k miles 1969 z28 survivor 39k miles 1969 z28 rs survivor 80k miles

12-11-2005, 09:28 PM	#12
ratrod67 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: DFW Texas Posts: 2,269	Re: bbc headers? The part # for mine is 500-69820. They seem to be a good quality header so far. The tube size is 1 7/8 compared to the 2 1/4 I wanted. I'm using a mini starter so there is plenty of clearance. The flanges are super thick. I had to get longer ARP bolts. These use a "Ball and socket" collector and are supposed to be leakfree. I'll have to see over time. This is my 1st time to use Headmans.

12-11-2005, 10:00 PM	#13
RPOZ11 72 BB C30 Super LongHorn Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Chavez Ravine Posts: 1,606	Re: bbc headers? I purchased Thorley Tri-Y's and will be installing them on my truck Will post those when mounted... I like the mini starter idea; that will greatly help that area! __________________ 72 BB C/30 Longhorn Super HO72 No-Spin, #'s matching, Tilt, Tach, AC, AM/FM HO72 build : http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=714492 2017 SS

12-11-2005, 11:34 PM	#14
FRENCHBLUE72 PROJECT 7DEUCE Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: GRANTS PASS OR Posts: 21,606	Re: bbc headers? Here are the headman headders I installed this weekend.. The fit is nice and I really have no complaints of them they do hang below the frame but for now I will live with em that way... Mine are not coated but for the $$ I paid for em I got a pretty good deal.. Heres a few pics... Attached Images __________________ GO BIG GREEN GO DUCKS MEMBER #6377 72 k-5 daily driver 6'' lift 35'' 350-350-205 slowly getting rust free. Project "7DEUCE" check out my build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=267665 Tim Powell..R.I.P EastSideLowlife..... R.I.P..

12-12-2005, 12:17 AM	#15
matt_field Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Detroit Lakes, Minnesota Posts: 885	Re: bbc headers? hey french, whats the number on those, i like those headers but would like them ceramic coated, do they make those exact ones in that? thanks __________________ 1971 k5 blazer 80k mike survivor 1972 3/4 ton 4wd Cummins 12v 1967 swb 2wd 427bbc 1968 4wd shortbox 1971 Cheyenne swb k10 unrestored 1971 Cheyenne super 40k 402bb survivor 1967 Chevy k10 (first truck) 1968 L78 camaro survivor 18k miles 1969 z28 survivor 60k miles 1969 z28 survivor 39k miles 1969 z28 rs survivor 80k miles



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12-12-2005, 02:24 AM	#16
Scottb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 17	Re: bbc headers? I'm poor so i bought the cheapie flow-tech ones from kragen- they work pretty good- about 4 years after i bought em, one of the pipes cracked at the collector- but i just rewelded it with no problems- sound really good and seem to flow well (was a world of difference between them and the cast ones). I highly recommend aluminum collector gaskets or you will replace gaskets every month or two... __________________ 70 GMC C2500 BB 402, LSD Dana 60 rear, Converted to SM 465, Holley 750, Edelbrock Performer RPM air-gap intake, Flowtech Headers, 2.5" Flomaster Exhaust, HEI ignition, 81 Chevy disk Brakes. All work done by myself. last 1/4 mile (almost 3 years ago) 15.9 @ 86

12-12-2005, 12:13 PM	#17
Johns70 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spring Creek, nevada. U.S.A. Posts: 456	Re: bbc headers? i bought the dynomax ceramic coated headers for thr big block and they fit great and seal well except for the collectors, i ended up getting the aluminum gaskets and they worked great no more problems at all. just remember to run the engine a few times and cool and tighten the header bolts in between and they shouldn't leak. __________________ 69 chevy short wide box project 70 GMC jimmy project

12-12-2005, 12:36 PM	#18
70rs/ss Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Northern AZ Posts: 7,270	Re: bbc headers? I used the Hooker comps for a 67-68 chevy truck. The ports matched the semi square port of the "oval port" heads. The headmans have a round port which does not match up well and causes leaks. The ball and socket thing sucks as well. The bolts continuously loosen and they leak. nylocks do not work because they melt. I guess if you dent the nut they may not back out. I like the Hookers way better than the Headmans (but I have both!)

12-12-2005, 03:26 PM	#19
matt_field Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Detroit Lakes, Minnesota Posts: 885	Re: bbc headers? ratrod, does the silver coating stay on there nice? did you get the arp studs or the arp bolts? im gonna order that setup, it loooks nice __________________ 1971 k5 blazer 80k mike survivor 1972 3/4 ton 4wd Cummins 12v 1967 swb 2wd 427bbc 1968 4wd shortbox 1971 Cheyenne swb k10 unrestored 1971 Cheyenne super 40k 402bb survivor 1967 Chevy k10 (first truck) 1968 L78 camaro survivor 18k miles 1969 z28 survivor 60k miles 1969 z28 survivor 39k miles 1969 z28 rs survivor 80k miles

12-12-2005, 07:10 PM	#20
FRENCHBLUE72 PROJECT 7DEUCE Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: GRANTS PASS OR Posts: 21,606	Re: bbc headers? Matt mine are just like rat rods without the ceramic coating... The best I can do for you on a part# is 69110.. I bought my headders from board member .30 over he maybe able to help you out better on the part# __________________ GO BIG GREEN GO DUCKS MEMBER #6377 72 k-5 daily driver 6'' lift 35'' 350-350-205 slowly getting rust free. Project "7DEUCE" check out my build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=267665 Tim Powell..R.I.P EastSideLowlife..... R.I.P..

12-13-2005, 11:17 PM	#22
kelsfine69 18 Till I Die Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 1,522	Re: bbc headers? I have Hooker Super Comps. Bought them 10 years ago and got tired of painting them black. So I took them out and had them coated. Didn't have to lift the engine but the did have to come out the bottom. Coating was worth every penny. __________________ 2011 GMC Acadia 1969 GMC BBC LS7 2007 GMC Crew Duramax 1987 Camaro Iroc 350 Tuned Port Injection 42000Km 1987 Chevrolet Silverado 350 TBI 1987 Chevrolet Silverado 350 TBI(yes 2) Take me drunk, I'm too home... Last edited by kelsfine69; 01-14-2006 at 05:05 PM.

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