@#%* Oil Filter - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

texascowboy593 · 12-13-2005, 05:46 PM

Im either really dumb or really weak. The oil filter on my 67 wont come off... It is clockwise to remove isnt it? No telling how long its been on there. I put a hole in the stupid thing trying to get it to budge. I put the filter wrench on it then put a visegrip on that to tighten it, put 1 foot on the frame for leverage and still couldnt get it to move! 1st pic of wrench, 2nd of leaking filter...Any good way of loosening it b4 I set fire to it?!? thx

1969 C/K CST · 12-13-2005, 05:51 PM

Righty tighty-Lefty loosey. Man sized screwdriver.

l1n1b1 · 12-13-2005, 05:53 PM

I'm not sure but Daddy always said

"Righty-Tighty, Lefty-Loosy....Just like the cap on a wine bottle"

texascowboy593 · 12-13-2005, 05:55 PM

I thought it was reversed because you were screwing into threads. Now that you say wine bottle I get it!

Putter · 12-13-2005, 05:57 PM

That is EXACTLY why us "left-handers" have such a hard time getting our wives pregnant.
The whole time she is screwing, we are UNscrewing!!!!

67ChevyRedneck · 12-13-2005, 06:17 PM

I think you need to turn it this way:

Gosh damn my lysdexia. I'm just not gonna try anymore

It needs to turn from right to left, or counterclockwise

boundstaffpress · 12-13-2005, 06:18 PM

Now that you have it on there real tight, you might benefit from a craftsman strap wrench. Of course things are already dirty, so poking a "man sized screwdriver" through is still an option.

mocwon · 12-13-2005, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Putter

That is EXACTLY why us "left-handers" have such a hard time getting our wives pregnant.
The whole time she is screwing, we are UNscrewing!!!!

Now, now....

ChevLoRay · 12-13-2005, 07:19 PM

You need to think about which way you would turn it to tighten it...and, from under the engine, you'd reach up (with your right hand) and turn it from the front of the engine, toward the left (drivers) side of the vehicle. Just take your hand, hold it as if you were holding the oil filter, fingers up, and move your hand as if you were tightening it. Now, to take the filter off, you know that it turns the OPPOSITE direction. When you are under the truck, and looking towards the back of the truck, it's easy to get disoriented. Same thing happens to me, whether it is the filter or the drain plug.

Just wait until you are older, less agile and more forgetful. There will come a time when every move will be counted and you want them to work right.

RainFade · 12-13-2005, 07:26 PM

Imagine looking or actually look at the bottom of the filter from below.
Turn it counter clockwise (anti-clockwise for our commonwealth friends)
If really tight hammering the biggest screwdriver you can find through the canister works great..

68haywagon · 12-13-2005, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 67ChevyRedneck

I think you need to turn it this way:

Other way I thought is off

Mike

*screamin_c102* · 12-13-2005, 08:29 PM

After you get done with all that, you willl probably end up tearing the can off the hub. The hub (threaded part) has several small holes in it, I had to use a long drift (punch) and tap the hub in a counter clockwise direction. It will come off eventually.

Goodluck........Bill

**truckdude239** · 12-13-2005, 08:51 PM

just shove an screw driver though it and turn it rigty tighty lefty lossey

70c10swb · 12-13-2005, 08:59 PM

i love this type or wrench. It attaches to your 3/8 ratchet. mine as gotten me out of a lot of messes

texascowboy593 · 12-13-2005, 09:12 PM

Well thx for the info yall... I still dont have the damn thing off! I have now literally destroyed the filter with no way to get any kind of grip w/o crushing it even further! You think I could do a simple thing such as this but NO! Ive been working on this ONE THING since 3:00. My time is now spent and I have to go to bed so I can be gone for 2 days in Oklahoma... Maybe I can pull the engine to get better access to the filter (half-way serious). Things like this are so damn frustrating I dont even know where to begin!!!

The worst thing is that I can devote 2-3 hrs every OTHER week to my truck and I just wasted all that time over something that should have taken no more than 10-15 mins. Sorry about the rant but Im a little ticked at myself...

71chevytruckguy · 12-13-2005, 09:25 PM

i always used a pair of channel locks. and im pretty sure its counter-clock wise. everything's confusin when ur layin on ur back lookin up.

Robert1970C20rstbukt · 12-13-2005, 10:04 PM

If worse comes to worse you could always get one of those big pipe wrenches that use a big bicycle type chain to grip the pipe when you pull on the handle..........shoot the handle is about 2ft long so it oughtta come off with that kind of leverage!! A lot of guys that work with pipe or have worked in the oilfield will know what i'm talking about.

crazy longhorn · 12-13-2005, 10:04 PM

Lefty Lucy, Righty Tighty.....( dont confuse the 1st part with Lucy Juicy), or you guys wont get chit done

Your young minds will be elsewhere...knowhatamean

L

86SILVERADO · 12-13-2005, 10:13 PM

I think 67chevyredneck was playing a cruel joke on you. You need to drive a heavy duty screwdriver through it now and hit the handle of it with a BFH so that you are turning it counterclockwise if you are laying underneath the filter looking up at it. Gradual force will not do anything for you now you need to give it a real sharp whack. Use the screwdriver method. Punch it through as close to the top of the filter as possible but at least 1.5 inches below the top of the rim so you clear the boss inside it.

texascowboy593 · 12-13-2005, 10:22 PM

Ok yall, Im going to bed. Ill be back on the board Thursday sometime to check in. As soon as I get that !$%# filter off, Ill take a pic of the low down dirty filthy beast with which I will tangle with again and eventually destroy to my infinite delight and pleasure. Once Ive done that, I will drink to the end of that filters life! ShinerBock for all!

pebbleboy · 12-13-2005, 10:29 PM

This reminds me of trying to change the oil in the wifes 99 mazda 626. I couldn't get that one off either. I crushed the filter in half with channel locks then did the screwdriver trick till I almost rippied the thing in half. I used the channel locks again on what was left of it and it finally came off. It took awhile of cussing to get that changed.

After that I gladly took it somewhere. Damn foregin crap

Long Roof · 12-13-2005, 10:58 PM

When you put the next one on, remember, it only needs to be snugged up with your bare hand.
My father always told me if you can't take the filter off with your hand then the guy that put it on shouldn't be changing oil.

'Step away from the vehicle!'

Aaron

_Dick_ · 12-13-2005, 11:04 PM

Remember ,this is why you bought an old truck ,to have FUN . Also theres a rule about haveing to much . If that happens you have to paint the house.

Longhorn Man · 12-13-2005, 11:36 PM

Another thing... when installing a new filter, you are supposed to put a light coat of clean oil on teh gasket, this is why. It keeps the gasket from getting stuck on the engine.
Also, in all reality, with the gasket lubed, you are supposed to spin it on untill it is against the housing base, and then another 1/4 turn, there is nothing at all wrong with tightening it more. Your filter is not stuck from over tightening it, it is stuck from age/lack of oil on the gasket.

jimfulco · 12-14-2005, 01:20 AM

I peeled one down to the base plate one time, and I had to use a 1" cold chisel and a 3# sledge to get it off.

The best thing I ever found for removing a sticky one was a Lisle oil filter wrench that had a flat spiral band that wound around the filter body & squeezed tighter the harder you turned it. Never failed me, but the filter body has to be intact. Naturally, they don't make them any more

, but I think the 3-legged device posted above is what they replaced them with.

12-13-2005, 05:46 PM	#1
texascowboy593 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southeast Tx Posts: 1,302	*@#% Oil Filter** Im either really dumb or really weak. The oil filter on my 67 wont come off... It is clockwise to remove isnt it? No telling how long its been on there. I put a hole in the stupid thing trying to get it to budge. I put the filter wrench on it then put a visegrip on that to tighten it, put 1 foot on the frame for leverage and still couldnt get it to move! 1st pic of wrench, 2nd of leaking filter...Any good way of loosening it b4 I set fire to it?!? thx Attached Images __________________ "The rays of light thru the Shiner Bock bottle make me wanna turn the key and put down the throttle...and get lost down 35" - Jason Boland www.YouTube.com/user/593Films - Watch My Videos! 1977 Silverado K10 2014 Dodge Durango (Wife-mobile) 2008 Dodge Ram Lone Star Edition (Daily driver)

12-13-2005, 05:51 PM	#2
1969 C/K CST A.K.A- Crummy Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NC foothills Posts: 3,025	*Re: @#% Oil Filter** Righty tighty-Lefty loosey. Man sized screwdriver. __________________ 2003 Silverado Z71 Are fishermen all liars?

12-13-2005, 05:53 PM	#3
l1n1b1 67 Shortstep Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 100	*Re: @#% Oil Filter** I'm not sure but Daddy always said "Righty-Tighty, Lefty-Loosy....Just like the cap on a wine bottle" __________________ 67 SWB Step 69 LWB CST 71 LWB 94 SWB Step 05 1500 Dodge P/U Adapt, Improvise, Overcome

12-13-2005, 05:55 PM	#4
texascowboy593 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southeast Tx Posts: 1,302	*Re: @#% Oil Filter** I thought it was reversed because you were screwing into threads. Now that you say wine bottle I get it! __________________ "The rays of light thru the Shiner Bock bottle make me wanna turn the key and put down the throttle...and get lost down 35" - Jason Boland www.YouTube.com/user/593Films - Watch My Videos! 1977 Silverado K10 2014 Dodge Durango (Wife-mobile) 2008 Dodge Ram Lone Star Edition (Daily driver)

12-13-2005, 05:57 PM	#5
Putter More Cowbell.... Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Puckett, MS Posts: 3,569	*Re: @#% Oil Filter That is EXACTLY why us "left-handers" have such a hard time getting our wives pregnant. The whole time she is screwing, we are UNscrewing!!!! __________________ There once was a member from Puckett.....Who ( fill in the blank blank blank ) bucket**

12-13-2005, 06:17 PM	#6
67ChevyRedneck Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 23,090	*Re: @#% Oil Filter** I think you need to turn it this way: Gosh damn my lysdexia. I'm just not gonna try anymore It needs to turn from right to left, or counterclockwise __________________ Jesse James 1967 C10 SWB Stepside: 350/700R4/3.73 1965 Ford Mustang: 289/T5-5spd/3.25 Trac-Loc 1968 Pontiac Firebird: Project Fire Chicken! 2015 Silverado Double Cab 5.3L Z71 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4.0L 5spd 2020 Chevrolet Equinox Premium 2.0L Turbo 2011 Mustang V6 ~ Wife's ride American Born, Country by the Grace of God 1967 CST Shop Truck Rebuild! My 1967 C-10 Build Thread My Vintage Air A/C Install Project "On a Dime" Trying my hand at Home Renovation! 1965 Mustang Modifications! Last edited by 67ChevyRedneck; 12-14-2005 at 09:42 AM.

12-13-2005, 06:18 PM	#7
boundstaffpress Jamie Hyneman is my twin Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: La Junta, Colorado Posts: 705	*Re: @#% Oil Filter Now that you have it on there real tight, you might benefit from a craftsman strap wrench. Of course things are already dirty, so poking a "man sized screwdriver" through is still an option. __________________ Justin SOLD 1967 K10 Fleetside, 283, Front and Rear Posi SOLD Color Wiring Diagrams Now in High Resolution** V8 and Cab and Cab and Chassis

12-13-2005, 07:19 PM	#9
ChevLoRay Old Skool Club Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Benton, AR "The Heart of Arkansas" Posts: 10,880	*Re: @#% Oil Filter** You need to think about which way you would turn it to tighten it...and, from under the engine, you'd reach up (with your right hand) and turn it from the front of the engine, toward the left (drivers) side of the vehicle. Just take your hand, hold it as if you were holding the oil filter, fingers up, and move your hand as if you were tightening it. Now, to take the filter off, you know that it turns the OPPOSITE direction. When you are under the truck, and looking towards the back of the truck, it's easy to get disoriented. Same thing happens to me, whether it is the filter or the drain plug. Just wait until you are older, less agile and more forgetful. There will come a time when every move will be counted and you want them to work right. __________________ Member Nr. 2770 '96 GMC Sportside; 4.3/SLT - Daily driven....constantly needs washed. '69 C-10 SWB; 350/TH400 - in limbo The older I get, the better I was. Last edited by ChevLoRay; 12-13-2005 at 07:20 PM.

12-13-2005, 07:26 PM	#10
RainFade Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 215	*Re: @#% Oil Filter** Imagine looking or actually look at the bottom of the filter from below. Turn it counter clockwise (anti-clockwise for our commonwealth friends) If really tight hammering the biggest screwdriver you can find through the canister works great.. __________________ 71 K20 350/350/205, dealer air, 4" lift, Flowtech,Edel 1406 on 2101, procomp HEI,4.10's, 33x12.50x16.5 BFG MT's on slots. 4 wheel disc brakes. My lame K20 page My lame Eaton disc brake page

12-13-2005, 08:29 PM	#12
screamin_c102 Account Suspended Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Yoncalla Oregon Posts: 775	*Re: @#% Oil Filter** After you get done with all that, you willl probably end up tearing the can off the hub. The hub (threaded part) has several small holes in it, I had to use a long drift (punch) and tap the hub in a counter clockwise direction. It will come off eventually. Goodluck........Bill

12-13-2005, 08:51 PM	#13
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12-13-2005, 08:59 PM	#14
70c10swb no brain no headache Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cape Cod MA Posts: 567	*Re: @#% Oil Filter** i love this type or wrench. It attaches to your 3/8 ratchet. mine as gotten me out of a lot of messes __________________ 1996 GMC Sierra z71 1970 SWB 2wd (project)

12-13-2005, 09:12 PM	#15
texascowboy593 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southeast Tx Posts: 1,302	*Re: @#% Oil Filter** Well thx for the info yall... I still dont have the damn thing off! I have now literally destroyed the filter with no way to get any kind of grip w/o crushing it even further! You think I could do a simple thing such as this but NO! Ive been working on this ONE THING since 3:00. My time is now spent and I have to go to bed so I can be gone for 2 days in Oklahoma... Maybe I can pull the engine to get better access to the filter (half-way serious). Things like this are so damn frustrating I dont even know where to begin!!! The worst thing is that I can devote 2-3 hrs every OTHER week to my truck and I just wasted all that time over something that should have taken no more than 10-15 mins. Sorry about the rant but Im a little ticked at myself... __________________ "The rays of light thru the Shiner Bock bottle make me wanna turn the key and put down the throttle...and get lost down 35" - Jason Boland www.YouTube.com/user/593Films - Watch My Videos! 1977 Silverado K10 2014 Dodge Durango (Wife-mobile) 2008 Dodge Ram Lone Star Edition (Daily driver)

12-13-2005, 09:25 PM	#16
71chevytruckguy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Kernersville, NC Posts: 599	*Re: @#% Oil Filter** i always used a pair of channel locks. and im pretty sure its counter-clock wise. everything's confusin when ur layin on ur back lookin up. __________________ its a work in progess. 71 c-10 lwb, in the middle of frame off restoration. 69 c-10 swb, drag truck, 406 sbc, balanced, comp 292 cam, ported, polished, gasket matched, and bowl blended pro comp 210cc heads, 2.02/1.60 ferrea valves,1.6 roller rockers, re curved hei with msd 6al box, 2-step rev limter, accel 300+ wires, ported victor jr intake, holley 750 double pumper carb, dynomax 1 5/8 headers, 4 spd munci m-20 with super case and iron midplate, mr. gasket vertigate shifter, 5.38 pro gears with full spool, 33 spline moser axles and c-clip elimators, line-loc, 5 gal fuel cell, holley blue pump. 7.807 @ 88.37mph 1.60 60FT 80 g-20 van, tow rig, cammed 305, th350, 10 bolt 88 jeep wrangler, dd, 258, ax-15 swap, 4.5" lift, 33x12.50's, lockers, 3.55's

12-13-2005, 10:04 PM	#17
Robert1970C20rstbukt Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Beeville, Texas Posts: 1,943	*Re: @#% Oil Filter If worse comes to worse you could always get one of those big pipe wrenches that use a big bicycle type chain to grip the pipe when you pull on the handle..........shoot the handle is about 2ft long so it oughtta come off with that kind of leverage!! A lot of guys that work with pipe or have worked in the oilfield will know what i'm talking about. __________________ RJD 1984 Chevrolet C30 welding truck 454/SM465 1977 GMC C15 pickup 350/TH350 1970 Chevrolet C20 pickup 350/TH400 1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban 454/TH350 1969** GMC 8500 478M V6/5 spd winch truck



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12-13-2005, 10:04 PM	#18
crazy longhorn Fabricate till you "puke" Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ill Posts: 9,403	*Re: @#% Oil Filter** Lefty Lucy, Righty Tighty.....( dont confuse the 1st part with Lucy Juicy), or you guys wont get chit done Your young minds will be elsewhere...knowhatamean L __________________ 69 longhorn,4" chop,3/5 drop, 1/2 ton suspension/disc brakes,1 1/2" body drop,steel tilt clip, 5.3/Edelbrock rpm intake/600 carb, Hooker streetrod shorties,2 1/2" exhaust/ H pipe/50's Flows , 6 spd Richmond trans,12 bolt/ 3.40 gears....

12-13-2005, 10:13 PM	#19
86SILVERADO Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hills of Western Mass Posts: 626	*Re: @#% Oil Filter I think 67chevyredneck was playing a cruel joke on you. You need to drive a heavy duty screwdriver through it now and hit the handle of it with a BFH so that you are turning it counterclockwise if you are laying underneath the filter looking up at it. Gradual force will not do anything for you now you need to give it a real sharp whack. Use the screwdriver method. Punch it through as close to the top of the filter as possible but at least 1.5 inches below the top of the rim so you clear the boss inside it. __________________ 86 Silverado C10 back to 305 power! 67 C30 Dually Dump, with 350 transplant, Rockhauler 05 Duramax 3500 "If at first you don't succeed, try a bigger hammer" Member of the 1-Ton club!**

12-13-2005, 10:22 PM	#20
texascowboy593 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southeast Tx Posts: 1,302	*Re: @#% Oil Filter** Ok yall, Im going to bed. Ill be back on the board Thursday sometime to check in. As soon as I get that !$%# filter off, Ill take a pic of the low down dirty filthy beast with which I will tangle with again and eventually destroy to my infinite delight and pleasure. Once Ive done that, I will drink to the end of that filters life! ShinerBock for all! __________________ "The rays of light thru the Shiner Bock bottle make me wanna turn the key and put down the throttle...and get lost down 35" - Jason Boland www.YouTube.com/user/593Films - Watch My Videos! 1977 Silverado K10 2014 Dodge Durango (Wife-mobile) 2008 Dodge Ram Lone Star Edition (Daily driver)

12-13-2005, 10:58 PM	#22
Long Roof Old School, New Style Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Monroeville, Ohio Posts: 790	*Re: @#% Oil Filter** When you put the next one on, remember, it only needs to be snugged up with your bare hand. My father always told me if you can't take the filter off with your hand then the guy that put it on shouldn't be changing oil. 'Step away from the vehicle!' Aaron __________________ The Good: - 72 GMC Jimmy 4x4 - 307 cid / 350 th - 70 Chevy Suburban 1/2T 2wd - 454 cid /400 th - 96 Chevy Impala SS - mainly stock - 98 Chevy Tahoe LT 4x4 - all stock The Bad: - 86 Chevy Suburban 1/2T 4x4 - winter beater The Ugly: - 72 Chevy Suburban 1/2T 2wd - parts truck

12-13-2005, 11:04 PM	#23
_Dick_ PROUD TO BE A MEMBER Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Jax Florida Posts: 234	*Re: @#% Oil Filter** Remember ,this is why you bought an old truck ,to have FUN . Also theres a rule about haveing to much . If that happens you have to paint the house.

12-13-2005, 11:36 PM	#24
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	*Re: @#% Oil Filter** Another thing... when installing a new filter, you are supposed to put a light coat of clean oil on teh gasket, this is why. It keeps the gasket from getting stuck on the engine. Also, in all reality, with the gasket lubed, you are supposed to spin it on untill it is against the housing base, and then another 1/4 turn, there is nothing at all wrong with tightening it more. Your filter is not stuck from over tightening it, it is stuck from age/lack of oil on the gasket.

12-14-2005, 01:20 AM	#25
jimfulco Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Shreveport LA Posts: 3,170	*Re: @#% Oil Filter** I peeled one down to the base plate one time, and I had to use a 1" cold chisel and a 3# sledge to get it off. The best thing I ever found for removing a sticky one was a Lisle oil filter wrench that had a flat spiral band that wound around the filter body & squeezed tighter the harder you turned it. Never failed me, but the filter body has to be intact. Naturally, they don't make them any more , but I think the 3-legged device posted above is what they replaced them with.

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