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*72longbed* · 12-13-2005, 10:22 PM

I just looked in the FAQ and Search but no luck. Who knows the facts about the 69-72 4x4 hubcaps vs. 73-78 hubcaps. I've been talking with some hubcap dealers and they say that the only difference is the color of the center bowtie. They say that the same samping is used for both era's?

Is there really any other difference (when comparing 4x4, 3/4 ton, stainless steel) between these years other than the color of the Bowtie?

Thanks,
72longbed

I thought I saw this Posted on the Board at one time?

nu2-72 · 12-13-2005, 10:27 PM

The difference that I see is the Blue Bowtie is Yellow on 73 and up and the Bowtie area on 72 and back is raised where the 73 up is caved inward. I have sets of both.

*72longbed* · 12-13-2005, 10:35 PM

So that would lead me to believe that there are two different 'stampings' or toolings? Can anybody else verify this?

Thanks,
72longbed

nu2-72 · 12-13-2005, 10:53 PM

here is the out 72

Robert1970C20rstbukt · 12-13-2005, 11:05 PM

The 69-72 caps have the center bowed out, the 73-78 caps are bowed in, but can be pushed out and the bowtie can be painted. Then they'll look just like the 69-72 style. That's what I did with this stainless one, except the original 1970 cap is painted.

Longhorn Man · 12-13-2005, 11:30 PM

To throw a stick in the spokes, I have seen 3 NOS white 72 hub caps, that were concaved, or pushed in in the center. No idea what was up, but that's what I saw.
At one point, the yellow bow tie ones went to chrome instead of stainlenss. also.

cheyenne10 · 12-14-2005, 12:34 AM

I was thinking the chrome versions were the earlier ones. The inner rims used to crack more on these. The stainless inner bead rims usually bend and dent. I remember a couple of 1969 and 1970's 1/2 tons with the chrome caps. I think I have a couple of the newer 73 and up 3/4 ton caps that appear to be chromed outers on stainless cap.

The 1/2 ton caps all had the concaved centers. I again thought that the 69-72 3/4 ton caps (blue centers) were all convex and 73 and up 3/4 ton caps were the concaved ones. Both painted and stainless or chrome were available on all the years. Usually was an option and often went with base thru deluxe thing with base models more often having painted caps and fancier trucks had the stainless or chrome caps.

Then of course there was the full wheel cover caps on cst and cheyennes.

Longhorn Man · 12-14-2005, 05:50 AM

the concave ones may well have been 1/2 ton, that would explain it.

*72longbed* · 12-14-2005, 11:14 AM

Here's a pic of the K10 Stainless hubcap I have for sale. It definitly has a concave center, and definitly is an original Blue bowtie.

So I think I understand now that the 3/4 ton 69-72 were convex with Blue bowtie, and the 1/2 ton were concave with Blue Bowtie. Were the 73 and up 3/4 tons concave or convex?

Thanks,
72longbed

nu2-72 · 12-14-2005, 11:51 AM

Mine have all been concave on 73 up.
And do not forget wheel diameters are different. That should be a tell tale on tonage.

Longhorn Man · 12-14-2005, 03:41 PM

interesting, the yellow chrome one I had was convex.

Robert1970C20rstbukt · 12-14-2005, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longhorn Man

interesting, the yellow chrome one I had was convex.

That's exactly how the chrome one was that I have. It had the concave center with a yellow bowtie, I just pushed it out to make it convex and I painted the bowtie blue. I just saw a couple 3/4 ton hubcaps on a 78 chevy truck at the junkyard and they're the same way.

**PICKMUP** · 12-15-2005, 01:21 AM

Ouch! I've got a headache!
I also have some 3/4T NOS originals in both 69-72 & 73+ that are chrome. I don't know how or why some were done in chrome, but they are beautiful.
NOS 3/4T caps are going for near $100 ea while the small 1/2T are only about $20 ea.

*72longbed* · 12-15-2005, 10:09 AM

Well, I'm no 'Purest' about my truck so I have to ask, who has the correct paint code for Chevy Bowtie Blue??

I've been driving around with only two front hubcaps and plain black steel rims in the back. Doesn't look like I'll be finding any 69-72 originals for the rear, so I'm going to 'make' some.

Can this color Blue still be had? Maybe one of you guys has a PPG or Dupont code for it?

Thanks,
72longbed

**Joesjunk** · 12-15-2005, 06:48 PM

Krylon "True Blue" works pretty good. Not a real good pic, but here is one I painted.

Longhorn Man · 12-16-2005, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 72longbed

...I've been driving around with only two front hubcaps and plain black steel rims in the back. Doesn't look like I'll be finding any 69-72 originals for the rear...

You looking for nice ones, or is this on abeater.
if it is the latter, then shoot me a PM.

72 longhorn BB · 12-16-2005, 02:09 PM

3/4 T NOS for $100 ea? Where?

What about great conditionold stock 3/4 T?

What are they worth?

Just wondering.

thanks,

12-13-2005, 10:22 PM	#1
72longbed Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: PA Posts: 1,411	Who Knows Their Hubcaps?? I just looked in the FAQ and Search but no luck. Who knows the facts about the 69-72 4x4 hubcaps vs. 73-78 hubcaps. I've been talking with some hubcap dealers and they say that the only difference is the color of the center bowtie. They say that the same samping is used for both era's? Is there really any other difference (when comparing 4x4, 3/4 ton, stainless steel) between these years other than the color of the Bowtie? Thanks, 72longbed I thought I saw this Posted on the Board at one time?

12-13-2005, 10:27 PM	#2
nu2-72 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Amazonia, Mo. USA Posts: 2,821	Re: Who Knows Their Hubcaps?? The difference that I see is the Blue Bowtie is Yellow on 73 and up and the Bowtie area on 72 and back is raised where the 73 up is caved inward. I have sets of both. __________________ 72 3/4 4x4 350 4spd 72 3/4 4x4 350 auto 2004 Duramax Silverado 4x4 2006 Duramax Crew cab 4x4 2010 Harley Ultra Limited 2011 Harley Street Glide

12-13-2005, 10:35 PM	#3
72longbed Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: PA Posts: 1,411	Re: Who Knows Their Hubcaps?? So that would lead me to believe that there are two different 'stampings' or toolings? Can anybody else verify this? Thanks, 72longbed

12-13-2005, 10:53 PM	#4
nu2-72 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Amazonia, Mo. USA Posts: 2,821	Re: Who Knows Their Hubcaps?? here is the out 72 Attached Images __________________ 72 3/4 4x4 350 4spd 72 3/4 4x4 350 auto 2004 Duramax Silverado 4x4 2006 Duramax Crew cab 4x4 2010 Harley Ultra Limited 2011 Harley Street Glide

12-13-2005, 11:05 PM	#5
Robert1970C20rstbukt Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Beeville, Texas Posts: 1,943	Re: Who Knows Their Hubcaps?? The 69-72 caps have the center bowed out, the 73-78 caps are bowed in, but can be pushed out and the bowtie can be painted. Then they'll look just like the 69-72 style. That's what I did with this stainless one, except the original 1970 cap is painted. __________________ RJD 1984 Chevrolet C30 welding truck 454/SM465 1977 GMC C15 pickup 350/TH350 1970 Chevrolet C20 pickup 350/TH400 1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban 454/TH350 1969 GMC 8500 478M V6/5 spd winch truck

12-13-2005, 11:30 PM	#6
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Who Knows Their Hubcaps?? To throw a stick in the spokes, I have seen 3 NOS white 72 hub caps, that were concaved, or pushed in in the center. No idea what was up, but that's what I saw. At one point, the yellow bow tie ones went to chrome instead of stainlenss. also.

12-14-2005, 12:34 AM	#7
cheyenne10 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,512	Re: Who Knows Their Hubcaps?? I was thinking the chrome versions were the earlier ones. The inner rims used to crack more on these. The stainless inner bead rims usually bend and dent. I remember a couple of 1969 and 1970's 1/2 tons with the chrome caps. I think I have a couple of the newer 73 and up 3/4 ton caps that appear to be chromed outers on stainless cap. The 1/2 ton caps all had the concaved centers. I again thought that the 69-72 3/4 ton caps (blue centers) were all convex and 73 and up 3/4 ton caps were the concaved ones. Both painted and stainless or chrome were available on all the years. Usually was an option and often went with base thru deluxe thing with base models more often having painted caps and fancier trucks had the stainless or chrome caps. Then of course there was the full wheel cover caps on cst and cheyennes. __________________ Bob

12-14-2005, 05:50 AM	#8
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Who Knows Their Hubcaps?? the concave ones may well have been 1/2 ton, that would explain it.

12-14-2005, 11:14 AM	#9
72longbed Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: PA Posts: 1,411	Re: Who Knows Their Hubcaps?? Here's a pic of the K10 Stainless hubcap I have for sale. It definitly has a concave center, and definitly is an original Blue bowtie. So I think I understand now that the 3/4 ton 69-72 were convex with Blue bowtie, and the 1/2 ton were concave with Blue Bowtie. Were the 73 and up 3/4 tons concave or convex? Thanks, 72longbed Attached Images Last edited by 72longbed; 12-14-2005 at 12:47 PM.

12-14-2005, 11:51 AM	#10
nu2-72 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Amazonia, Mo. USA Posts: 2,821	Re: Who Knows Their Hubcaps?? Mine have all been concave on 73 up. And do not forget wheel diameters are different. That should be a tell tale on tonage. __________________ 72 3/4 4x4 350 4spd 72 3/4 4x4 350 auto 2004 Duramax Silverado 4x4 2006 Duramax Crew cab 4x4 2010 Harley Ultra Limited 2011 Harley Street Glide Last edited by nu2-72; 12-14-2005 at 11:52 AM.

12-14-2005, 03:41 PM	#11
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Who Knows Their Hubcaps?? interesting, the yellow chrome one I had was convex.

12-15-2005, 01:21 AM	#13
PICKMUP "Trucks with Class" Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: OLYMPIA, WA, USA Posts: 8,132	Re: Who Knows Their Hubcaps?? Ouch! I've got a headache! I also have some 3/4T NOS originals in both 69-72 & 73+ that are chrome. I don't know how or why some were done in chrome, but they are beautiful. NOS 3/4T caps are going for near $100 ea while the small 1/2T are only about $20 ea. Attached Images

12-15-2005, 10:09 AM	#14
72longbed Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: PA Posts: 1,411	Re: Who Knows Their Hubcaps?? Well, I'm no 'Purest' about my truck so I have to ask, who has the correct paint code for Chevy Bowtie Blue?? I've been driving around with only two front hubcaps and plain black steel rims in the back. Doesn't look like I'll be finding any 69-72 originals for the rear, so I'm going to 'make' some. Can this color Blue still be had? Maybe one of you guys has a PPG or Dupont code for it? Thanks, 72longbed

12-15-2005, 06:48 PM	#15
Joesjunk Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Independence MO. Posts: 7,697	Re: Who Knows Their Hubcaps?? Krylon "True Blue" works pretty good. Not a real good pic, but here is one I painted. Attached Images __________________ 72 3/4t Custom Deluxe 402/auto 66k Original paint 71 3/4t 4x4 Custom Deluxe 10k original miles Original paint 71 3/4t Cheyenne 402 70k original paint 72 3/4t 4x4 Custom deluxe 72 3/4t 4x4 Custom deluxe 91k original paint 72 Cheyenne/30 Dually 69 Camaro SS396 4-speed 13 GMC 2500HD Duramax I bought new 05 Jeep Wrangler "Willys Edition" 12k miles (I bought new) 85 3/4 ton 4x4 Scottsdale 33k miles original paint 86 1 ton 4x4 SRW Silverado 454 restored 80 1 ton 4x4 SRW Silverado 9,434 original miles!! original paint 95 GMC 1 ton dually 4x4 my dad bought new 95 GMC 3/4 ton 4x4, regular cab 454, 31k original miles 2002 2500HD 4x4 regular cab 6.0L 67k miles 2002 2500HD 4x4 regular cab 8.1L 28k miles 2003 GMC 2500HD 4x4 regular cab Diesel 93k miles 67-72 Parts for sale

12-16-2005, 02:09 PM	#17
72 longhorn BB Registered User Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Michigan Posts: 312	Re: Who Knows Their Hubcaps?? 3/4 T NOS for $100 ea? Where? What about great conditionold stock 3/4 T? What are they worth? Just wondering. thanks, __________________ Chuck 1972 C-20 Longhorn 402 BB .030" over (409?), curved HEI, RV cam, quadrajet, dual 3" exhaust, TH 400 ported w/shift kit 1999 K1500 Suburban (old style) 5.7L Vortec 4L60E "No matter where you go, ........ there you are"



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