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**1970 CST Short Wide** · 12-21-2005, 02:43 PM

I recently came across a bunch of Old Tools. I dont know what the lone one is. Anybody Know ??

l1n1b1 · 12-21-2005, 02:47 PM

It looks to be circa 1700's....Early wood drill....the opening on the top was for a board (similar to a 2x4) to be inserted through it so that you could apply pressure to it by leaning into it with your chest.....

**Palf70Step** · 12-21-2005, 02:51 PM

That would be my guess is a drill....though I can't provide the learned information my predicessor did.

Jebb1978 · 12-21-2005, 02:52 PM

Yeah it's a really old drill. My friend has one he still uses, very cool!

*screamin_c102* · 12-21-2005, 03:37 PM

Egg Beater......

Seriously though,I find it interesting that the teeth dont go all the way around the drive gear. Seems to be designed for a back and forth motion not a full rotary motion like a drill.

Brainchild · 12-21-2005, 04:13 PM

I can't say for sure,but it sure looks like a lot of work

Cool stuff to have though

Professor · 12-21-2005, 05:32 PM

If there are not 360 degrees of teeth on the main gear, indicating that the only use of the thing would be to make the shaft move in a back-and-forth rotation by a similar back-and-forth rotation of the crank handle, it almost looks like an old valve lapper. ... for lapping in valves into the cylinder head (or, in the case of a flat-head engine, into the engine block).

smirch9 · 12-21-2005, 05:36 PM

Try here www.papaswrench.com Papa will be able to tell you, in fact he is a member here to!

Opper77 · 12-21-2005, 06:01 PM

It is indeed a drill. If you look closer, the flat section is recessed below the teeth, and there are 3 patches of teeth that look to be at 120 deg to eachother. It will go all the way around...after the last tooth passes on the top the first one on the other side is just coming into engagement. If you had to cut teeth with a file or whatever back in those days, would you not just cut only what you need and not all 360 deg?

Being smart is not necessarily being lazy.

Professor · 12-21-2005, 06:06 PM

Good point, Opper. Its the little swivel attachment of the working end that makes me think its a valve lapping tool.

**kwmech** · 12-21-2005, 07:15 PM

That is the original cordless drill.

*screamin_c102* · 12-21-2005, 07:17 PM

Cool

**1970 CST Short Wide** · 12-21-2005, 07:20 PM

The teeth are in sections so as to make the bit go back and forth as you turn the handle. There's a gear at each end of the teeth and it only hits one set of teeth at a time makeing it change direction. the lapping tool has my vote so far.

Thanks for all the input.

71swb4x4 · 12-21-2005, 07:22 PM

It looks like a tool we used to use to make rope. Maybe we were using an old drill to make rope, I was only 8 or 9 years old at the time so I really can't be sure.

*FormerMember* · 12-21-2005, 08:00 PM

That was my thought, a rope winder.

Older than internal combustion engines is my guess.

Shorty Cox · 12-22-2005, 09:18 AM

The consensus at my office is, IT IS A COTTER KEY REMOVER!!!!!!!!!!

71RestoRod · 12-23-2005, 11:25 AM

As others stated... It's a valve lapping tool. The teeth are set up to use the handle in any one of three positions but in a back and forth motion. It looks like it might be missing the piece that sits on the valve... Here are a couple ones similar to it:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Valve-Lapping-To...QQcmdZViewItem

jamis · 12-23-2005, 01:31 PM

I think the guy who last did some daily driver body work for me uses these tools.

***Liz*** · 12-23-2005, 01:51 PM

1970 CST Short Wide papawswrench has a site dedicated to old tools also. Its a newer site that is growing, but there are some very helpful people over there also. http://papawswrench.com

i so missed smirchs post sorry for the double

but its a good place to check out

fastwillie 696969 · 12-23-2005, 02:01 PM

i saw the 3 stooges use it for mixing batter (knuck knuck knuck )

**tnblazerk5** · 12-23-2005, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamis

I think the guy who last did some daily driver body work for me uses these tools.

No3Fan4Ever · 12-23-2005, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 70blowngmc

i saw the 3 stooges use it for mixing batter (knuck knuck knuck )

Oh a wise guy, huh............bwop, bwop, bwop. honk, honk, honk, blip(two fingers right beyween the eyes

papawswrench · 12-24-2005, 10:29 AM

Sorry guys - I missed this post !
That is most likely a valve lapping tool , missing an attachment . It would alternate direction and lap the valve seat .
There are some like it that were used as paint mixers in the old days also . Judging by the old carpenter tools in the picture , that would be my guess as to what it was used for by the owner . Definitely "old school " !

papawswrench · 12-24-2005, 01:57 PM

Here is one on Ebay---

Link--http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Antique-...QQcmdZViewItem

Blue Beard · 12-24-2005, 10:03 PM

Looks like something used for the valve lapping, or the seats.

But they had something similiar to this not only for rope winding but for the wire cables...

12-21-2005, 02:43 PM	#1
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12-21-2005, 02:47 PM	#2
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12-21-2005, 02:51 PM	#3
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12-21-2005, 02:52 PM	#4
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12-21-2005, 03:37 PM	#5
screamin_c102 Account Suspended Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Yoncalla Oregon Posts: 775	Re: Old Tools What is this ? Egg Beater...... Seriously though,I find it interesting that the teeth dont go all the way around the drive gear. Seems to be designed for a back and forth motion not a full rotary motion like a drill. Last edited by screamin_c102; 12-21-2005 at 03:42 PM.

12-21-2005, 04:13 PM	#6
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12-21-2005, 05:32 PM	#7
Professor Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Fayetteville, Arkansas Posts: 160	Re: Old Tools What is this ? If there are not 360 degrees of teeth on the main gear, indicating that the only use of the thing would be to make the shaft move in a back-and-forth rotation by a similar back-and-forth rotation of the crank handle, it almost looks like an old valve lapper. ... for lapping in valves into the cylinder head (or, in the case of a flat-head engine, into the engine block).

12-21-2005, 05:36 PM	#8
smirch9 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Coweta, Oklahoma Posts: 2,389	Re: Old Tools What is this ? Try here www.papaswrench.com Papa will be able to tell you, in fact he is a member here to! __________________ 1999 GMC 2500--Natural Gas Powered baby! 2007 Chevrolet Tahoe Have you subscribed? Click here. Order your site t-shirts and apparel here! Last edited by smirch9; 12-21-2005 at 05:37 PM.

12-21-2005, 06:01 PM	#9
Opper77 Ob-Gyn Kenobi Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 489	Re: Old Tools What is this ? It is indeed a drill. If you look closer, the flat section is recessed below the teeth, and there are 3 patches of teeth that look to be at 120 deg to eachother. It will go all the way around...after the last tooth passes on the top the first one on the other side is just coming into engagement. If you had to cut teeth with a file or whatever back in those days, would you not just cut only what you need and not all 360 deg? Being smart is not necessarily being lazy. __________________ '85 GMC Shortbox... I used to have a firm handle on life....then it broke off. Last edited by Opper77; 12-21-2005 at 06:01 PM.

12-21-2005, 06:06 PM	#10
Professor Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Fayetteville, Arkansas Posts: 160	Re: Old Tools What is this ? Good point, Opper. Its the little swivel attachment of the working end that makes me think its a valve lapping tool.

12-21-2005, 07:15 PM	#11
kwmech Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Colfax-California Posts: 8,649	Re: Old Tools What is this ? That is the original cordless drill.

12-21-2005, 07:17 PM	#12
screamin_c102 Account Suspended Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Yoncalla Oregon Posts: 775	Re: Old Tools What is this ? Cool

12-21-2005, 07:20 PM	#13
1970 CST Short Wide Senior Moment Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pittsburg Ca Posts: 4,192	Re: Old Tools What is this ? The teeth are in sections so as to make the bit go back and forth as you turn the handle. There's a gear at each end of the teeth and it only hits one set of teeth at a time makeing it change direction. the lapping tool has my vote so far. Thanks for all the input. __________________ 1970 CST LS 1 6 speed Ford 9 inch Detroit Tru Track, Dakota Didgital, Vintage Air, QA1 Coil Overs Front & Rear Lots of FUN 2013 GMC PU, Oldest Son 71 GMC LWB. QA1 Suspension, Angry SB. Youngest Son 2017 Toyota SUV Daughters car 2018 Traverse , Wife’s Ride Pittsburg Ca 94565 Last edited by 1970 CST Short Wide; 12-21-2005 at 07:21 PM.

12-21-2005, 07:22 PM	#14
71swb4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brookings, SD Posts: 10,497	Re: Old Tools What is this ? It looks like a tool we used to use to make rope. Maybe we were using an old drill to make rope, I was only 8 or 9 years old at the time so I really can't be sure. __________________ Some people are like slinkies, they aren't good for anything, but you can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.

12-21-2005, 08:00 PM	#15
FormerMember Account Suspended Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,051	Re: Old Tools What is this ? That was my thought, a rope winder. Older than internal combustion engines is my guess.



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12-22-2005, 09:18 AM	#16
Shorty Cox Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Liberal, Ks, Us Posts: 1,091	Re: Old Tools What is this ? The consensus at my office is, IT IS A COTTER KEY REMOVER!!!!!!!!!!

12-23-2005, 11:25 AM	#17
71RestoRod Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Evergreen, CO Posts: 492	Re: Old Tools What is this ? As others stated... It's a valve lapping tool. The teeth are set up to use the handle in any one of three positions but in a back and forth motion. It looks like it might be missing the piece that sits on the valve... Here are a couple ones similar to it: http://cgi.ebay.com/Valve-Lapping-To...QQcmdZViewItem Attached Images __________________ 71 Blazer / GMPP ZZ383 / MPFI / 700R4 / 4-Wheel Disk / Ground-up frame off almost completed resto-mod

12-23-2005, 01:31 PM	#18
jamis F.A.S.T. president Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 1,883	Re: Old Tools What is this ? I think the guy who last did some daily driver body work for me uses these tools. __________________ F.A.S.T. President and Founder Fabricators for the Advancement of Sawsall Technology "A fear of the Sawsall is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." ~Sigmund Freud, "General Introduction to Psychoanalysis" Last edited by jamis; 10-05-2007 at 07:13 AM.

12-23-2005, 01:51 PM	#19
*Liz* Catchy title goes here.. Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Rockwell, NC Posts: 39,767	Re: Old Tools What is this ? 1970 CST Short Wide papawswrench has a site dedicated to old tools also. Its a newer site that is growing, but there are some very helpful people over there also. http://papawswrench.com i so missed smirchs post sorry for the double but its a good place to check out Last edited by Liz; 12-23-2005 at 01:52 PM. Reason: overlooked smirchs post somehow..

12-23-2005, 02:01 PM	#20
fastwillie 696969 ~Rest In Peace~ Join Date: May 2005 Location: CALIFORNIA NOR CAL Posts: 9,707	Re: Old Tools What is this ? i saw the 3 stooges use it for mixing batter (knuck knuck knuck ) __________________ is it fast ? it has a lighting bolt donut? B___H please, I can remove 90% of your so called "beauty" with a kleenex Last edited by fastwillie 696969; 12-23-2005 at 02:02 PM.

12-24-2005, 10:29 AM	#23
papawswrench Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Alvin ,TX Posts: 2,172	Re: Old Tools What is this ? Sorry guys - I missed this post ! That is most likely a valve lapping tool , missing an attachment . It would alternate direction and lap the valve seat . There are some like it that were used as paint mixers in the old days also . Judging by the old carpenter tools in the picture , that would be my guess as to what it was used for by the owner . Definitely "old school " ! __________________ papawswrench Certified wrench hound ! Tool Talk Randomview PapawsImages https://www.flickr.com/photos/nhankamer/

12-24-2005, 01:57 PM	#24
papawswrench Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Alvin ,TX Posts: 2,172	Re: Old Tools What is this ? Here is one on Ebay--- Link--http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Antique-...QQcmdZViewItem __________________ papawswrench Certified wrench hound ! Tool Talk Randomview PapawsImages https://www.flickr.com/photos/nhankamer/

12-24-2005, 10:03 PM	#25
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