68-72 reproduction long fleet bedsides - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

northerngmc · 12-23-2005, 09:04 PM

Do anyone know if/when the 68-72 reproduction long fleet bedsides will be available?

68haywagon · 12-23-2005, 09:05 PM

Most likely never. The repro companies don't like us

Mike

**truckdude239** · 12-23-2005, 09:08 PM

i'd wish they would mine are nothing but bondo
and primer

northerngmc · 12-23-2005, 09:10 PM

Mar-K has a part number for them in their online catalog!

**truckdude239** · 12-23-2005, 09:17 PM

what is the number i got the numbers but it says these parts aren't yet avilble

68haywagon · 12-23-2005, 10:31 PM

Well we have a Mar-K vendor on the board...maybe he'll chime in.

Mike

PICKMUP · 12-23-2005, 10:36 PM

Well, MAR-Ks short fleet bedsides are just the same import repros everyone sells...they just charge more than anyone else...
So, I am sure they are probably just waiting for imports of the long fleet sides, too.
I haven't heard any rumors, yet. You will know it first here on this board.

68haywagon · 12-23-2005, 10:42 PM

Well hopefully I'll have a nice bed from another board member this upcoming spring/summer. I did inquire quite a while ago to goodmark and they said there was no plans for ever reproducing them again. There was a place in canada that had them listed as "coming soon" with a very ridiculous price. I will see if I can find it.

Mike

FRENCHBLUE72 · 12-24-2005, 12:59 AM

Guess I had better hold onto the long fleet bed sides that I had been thing about getting rid of..

northerngmc · 12-24-2005, 04:15 AM

Mrk-K says Dec 2006.

I heard that they want to break even on short bed sides first!

**special-K** · 12-24-2005, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by northerngmc

Mrk-K says Dec 2006.

I heard that they want to break even on short bed sides first!

They haven`t?If they actually produce them(and I`m not sure they do)then they should have made plenty off sales to the many vendors that would have bought them wholesale,as well as retail sales.They`ve been out for many years.Many vendors like us in the dark about whether they are producers or middlemen.Some will print them to be coming soon just so you will keep checking with then until they are actually made.I`m not saying this is so with Mark-K since I really don`t know.

FRENCHBLUE72 · 12-24-2005, 01:14 PM

I would pm wes at classic heart beat as he is pretty good about knowing if parts are gonna be reproduced or not...

northerngmc · 12-25-2005, 01:22 AM

So I guess I won't be getting a set from Xmas in the morning!

**special-K** · 12-25-2005, 08:47 AM

Pickmup already said he hasn`t heard tell.He`s a dealer.

classicchev · 12-25-2005, 04:41 PM

Hey Northern, Ihave a couple decent sides, let me know if you need some, wont fit in a stocking though.

roger0080 · 12-25-2005, 05:17 PM

I can't belive their isn't a manufactorer producing these yet. Whoever can make these fleetside fendors and get the price down (less mega-greed) to a decent price could really clean up in the marketplace for a long long time on this. Like every non-Californa/Arizona native truck is a canidate for bed replacements.

71 longbed · 12-25-2005, 11:07 PM

goodmark industries sad there is no need to make longbed panels. they said that there are more longbed panels out there than short. if everybody would email them about longbed panels they might just start making them. so start sending them emails for longbeds.

MAR-Ktech · 12-26-2005, 02:19 PM

I will try to clear up a couple things about Mar-K involvement here. We do not manufacture the fleet bedsides, we purchase from an importer. What we do (did) was inspect each part, return damaged and defective bedsides to the supplier, and repackage the cherry picked good ones in stronger boxes or crates for re-shipping to our customers. The time and cost to do this was not practical so we will probably not continue carrying the fleet bedsides. We may have one pair left in stock.

Regarding the long fleet bedsides that show up on the website, that is a mistake. It will be removed. We do not plan to manufacture the long fleet bedside. Projects with this much large tooling and presses required are beyond the production capability of our company. Sorry for the confusion this may have caused.

Mar-Ktech

roger0080 · 12-26-2005, 11:43 PM

Thanks for the answer MAR-Ktech, but may I ask (genuinely) since there are short bed fleet tooling and presses already stamping out these out fenders out, how much more can it cost to build, I presume from scratch, the same fendor only 4 feet longer? Would it be a $500K tooling job? Any ideas?

Thanks.
-Roger

Green Machine · 12-27-2005, 08:43 PM

So if I read between the lines, Mar-k did have a supplier making those. Is that supplier still making them even if they are not so good ? Could it be possible to bring up the quality on those rather than retool ?

Oh, I don't think they are 4 foot longer, that would be a longhorn on steroids

northerngmc · 12-27-2005, 09:10 PM

I understand MAR-K to say that they are no longer going to carry the SWB fleetsides and that LWB fleetsides are not being reproduced.

I think other parts vendors are still selling SWB fleetsides.

Yes, 4 feet longer would be quite the truck.

LWB are 8ft, but are SWB 6 or 6.5 ft?

roger0080 · 12-27-2005, 09:47 PM

Yeah yeah I see know 4 feet is ridiculous but I hope you got the gist of the message!

MAR-Ktech · 12-28-2005, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by northerngmc

I understand MAR-K to say that they are no longer going to carry the SWB fleetsides and that LWB fleetsides are not being reproduced.

I think other parts vendors are still selling SWB fleetsides.

This is correct. Sorry I was not clear on this. They are still being produced and being imported. Our corporate decision is that we will not carry them at this time because of quality problems. These are the same quality issues that have been reported in these forums. We were dealing with an importer, not directly with the overseas manufacturer. Other vendors are still selling the bedsides. To my knowledge the long bedsides are not being reproduced, but a more accurate answer may be available from an importer that is working directly with the overseas manufacturer.

Mar-Ktech

MAR-Ktech · 12-28-2005, 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roger0080

Thanks for the answer MAR-Ktech, but may I ask (genuinely) since there are short bed fleet tooling and presses already stamping out these out fenders out, how much more can it cost to build, I presume from scratch, the same fendor only 4 feet longer? Would it be a $500K tooling job? Any ideas?

Thanks.
-Roger

Roger:
I would not even want to guess the cost of tooling for these parts. Multiple operations for each of four parts (inner and outer skin, each side) in dies 9 or 10 feet long, presses the size of a childs bedroom, etc, etc. Other board members probably have experience with this type tooling, but not at Mar-K.

Mar-Ktech

weasel29gm · 12-28-2005, 10:13 PM

I used to work in a stamping plant, and to launch a a repo is costly. GM junked all the dies years ago. We had a plant manager that had contacts at GM. Remember when the 67-72 Burb sides was talked about bein' reproduced? He made some calls to GM about the old dies, all were scraped. If Dyacorn can stamp a '69 Camaro body,how come they don't the LWB sides? Supply and demand. As far as fitment goes is steel we're usin' these days. I've seen panels change in a hours time due to a roll change in the blanker area. Unless you find OEM,most of the time you'll have issues. When the SWB repos came out I was ready to buy a pair, I got a deal on some used,for less than one repo cost.

12-23-2005, 09:04 PM	#1
northerngmc Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Whitehorse YK Canada Posts: 2,651	68-72 reproduction long fleet bedsides Do anyone know if/when the 68-72 reproduction long fleet bedsides will be available? __________________ Blaine 59 GMC 9314 a.k.a. Whoopee 68 C20 50th Anniversary a.k.a. The Rat http://www.flickr.com/photos/northerngmc/ http://www.members.tripod.com/P-wee/index_032.htm 1.61803 is one H of a lot better than 3.14159, no really it is!

12-23-2005, 09:05 PM	#2
68haywagon I'm watching you! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Levittown, PA Posts: 1,822	Re: 68-72 reproduction long fleet bedsides Most likely never. The repro companies don't like us Mike __________________ 2012 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 Z71 4WD 1993 Chevrolet C-1500 W/T - Blue - 4.3L V-6, 4 speed auto - Dad's (RIP) 1992 Chevrolet S10 - LS swap project 1968 Chevrolet C-10 longbed fleetside - sold

12-23-2005, 09:08 PM	#3
truckdude239 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lewisville, Nc Posts: 10,237	Re: 68-72 reproduction long fleet bedsides i'd wish they would mine are nothing but bondo and primer __________________ David fuller Ase Certified Mechanic Click here to help support our board!! 1971 Chevy c-10 under going a 4.8l LSx swap Build Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=421305 2007 Honda Accord my daily 145kmiles 2002 Honda Accord 4 door With 330k(sisters car) 2005 toyota Avalon 228k( brothers car) 2002 Sububran 5.3 245k 2000 Tahoe 5.3l 378 General manager for Marco's Carwash & lube

12-23-2005, 09:10 PM	#4
northerngmc Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Whitehorse YK Canada Posts: 2,651	Re: 68-72 reproduction long fleet bedsides Mar-K has a part number for them in their online catalog! __________________ Blaine 59 GMC 9314 a.k.a. Whoopee 68 C20 50th Anniversary a.k.a. The Rat http://www.flickr.com/photos/northerngmc/ http://www.members.tripod.com/P-wee/index_032.htm 1.61803 is one H of a lot better than 3.14159, no really it is!

12-23-2005, 09:17 PM	#5
truckdude239 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lewisville, Nc Posts: 10,237	Re: 68-72 reproduction long fleet bedsides what is the number i got the numbers but it says these parts aren't yet avilble __________________ David fuller Ase Certified Mechanic Click here to help support our board!! 1971 Chevy c-10 under going a 4.8l LSx swap Build Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=421305 2007 Honda Accord my daily 145kmiles 2002 Honda Accord 4 door With 330k(sisters car) 2005 toyota Avalon 228k( brothers car) 2002 Sububran 5.3 245k 2000 Tahoe 5.3l 378 General manager for Marco's Carwash & lube

12-23-2005, 10:31 PM	#6
68haywagon I'm watching you! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Levittown, PA Posts: 1,822	Re: 68-72 reproduction long fleet bedsides Well we have a Mar-K vendor on the board...maybe he'll chime in. Mike __________________ 2012 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 Z71 4WD 1993 Chevrolet C-1500 W/T - Blue - 4.3L V-6, 4 speed auto - Dad's (RIP) 1992 Chevrolet S10 - LS swap project 1968 Chevrolet C-10 longbed fleetside - sold

12-23-2005, 10:36 PM	#7
PICKMUP "Trucks with Class" Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: OLYMPIA, WA, USA Posts: 8,144	Re: 68-72 reproduction long fleet bedsides Well, MAR-Ks short fleet bedsides are just the same import repros everyone sells...they just charge more than anyone else... So, I am sure they are probably just waiting for imports of the long fleet sides, too. I haven't heard any rumors, yet. You will know it first here on this board.

12-23-2005, 10:42 PM	#8
68haywagon I'm watching you! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Levittown, PA Posts: 1,822	Re: 68-72 reproduction long fleet bedsides Well hopefully I'll have a nice bed from another board member this upcoming spring/summer. I did inquire quite a while ago to goodmark and they said there was no plans for ever reproducing them again. There was a place in canada that had them listed as "coming soon" with a very ridiculous price. I will see if I can find it. Mike __________________ 2012 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 Z71 4WD 1993 Chevrolet C-1500 W/T - Blue - 4.3L V-6, 4 speed auto - Dad's (RIP) 1992 Chevrolet S10 - LS swap project 1968 Chevrolet C-10 longbed fleetside - sold

12-24-2005, 12:59 AM	#9
FRENCHBLUE72 PROJECT 7DEUCE Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: GRANTS PASS OR Posts: 21,608	Re: 68-72 reproduction long fleet bedsides Guess I had better hold onto the long fleet bed sides that I had been thing about getting rid of.. __________________ GO BIG GREEN GO DUCKS MEMBER #6377 72 k-5 daily driver 6'' lift 35'' 350-350-205 slowly getting rust free. Project "7DEUCE" check out my build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=267665 Tim Powell..R.I.P EastSideLowlife..... R.I.P..

12-24-2005, 04:15 AM	#10
northerngmc Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Whitehorse YK Canada Posts: 2,651	Re: 68-72 reproduction long fleet bedsides Mrk-K says Dec 2006. I heard that they want to break even on short bed sides first! __________________ Blaine 59 GMC 9314 a.k.a. Whoopee 68 C20 50th Anniversary a.k.a. The Rat http://www.flickr.com/photos/northerngmc/ http://www.members.tripod.com/P-wee/index_032.htm 1.61803 is one H of a lot better than 3.14159, no really it is!

12-24-2005, 01:14 PM	#12
FRENCHBLUE72 PROJECT 7DEUCE Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: GRANTS PASS OR Posts: 21,608	Re: 68-72 reproduction long fleet bedsides I would pm wes at classic heart beat as he is pretty good about knowing if parts are gonna be reproduced or not... __________________ GO BIG GREEN GO DUCKS MEMBER #6377 72 k-5 daily driver 6'' lift 35'' 350-350-205 slowly getting rust free. Project "7DEUCE" check out my build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=267665 Tim Powell..R.I.P EastSideLowlife..... R.I.P..

12-25-2005, 01:22 AM	#13
northerngmc Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Whitehorse YK Canada Posts: 2,651	Re: 68-72 reproduction long fleet bedsides So I guess I won't be getting a set from Xmas in the morning! __________________ Blaine 59 GMC 9314 a.k.a. Whoopee 68 C20 50th Anniversary a.k.a. The Rat http://www.flickr.com/photos/northerngmc/ http://www.members.tripod.com/P-wee/index_032.htm 1.61803 is one H of a lot better than 3.14159, no really it is!

12-25-2005, 08:47 AM	#14
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,852	Re: 68-72 reproduction long fleet bedsides Pickmup already said he hasn`t heard tell.He`s a dealer. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

12-25-2005, 04:41 PM	#15
classicchev Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Calgary Alberta Posts: 1,936	Re: 68-72 reproduction long fleet bedsides Hey Northern, Ihave a couple decent sides, let me know if you need some, wont fit in a stocking though. __________________ 67- 72 Parts collecter

12-25-2005, 05:17 PM	#16
roger0080 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Carver County, Minnesota, USA Posts: 626	Re: 68-72 reproduction long fleet bedsides I can't belive their isn't a manufactorer producing these yet. Whoever can make these fleetside fendors and get the price down (less mega-greed) to a decent price could really clean up in the marketplace for a long long time on this. Like every non-Californa/Arizona native truck is a canidate for bed replacements. __________________ 72 Chev C-10 90% restored (former AZ truck) ... 71 Chev K-20 Cheyenne my vacation crusier... 72 Chev C-10 Now retired and striped after many faithful miles... 72 GMC 1500 Retired to the junk yard after bought new in '71...



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12-25-2005, 11:07 PM	#17
71 longbed Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: ohio Posts: 36	Re: 68-72 reproduction long fleet bedsides goodmark industries sad there is no need to make longbed panels. they said that there are more longbed panels out there than short. if everybody would email them about longbed panels they might just start making them. so start sending them emails for longbeds. __________________

12-26-2005, 02:19 PM	#18
MAR-Ktech Truck Parts Mfg. Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 697	Re: 68-72 reproduction long fleet bedsides I will try to clear up a couple things about Mar-K involvement here. We do not manufacture the fleet bedsides, we purchase from an importer. What we do (did) was inspect each part, return damaged and defective bedsides to the supplier, and repackage the cherry picked good ones in stronger boxes or crates for re-shipping to our customers. The time and cost to do this was not practical so we will probably not continue carrying the fleet bedsides. We may have one pair left in stock. Regarding the long fleet bedsides that show up on the website, that is a mistake. It will be removed. We do not plan to manufacture the long fleet bedside. Projects with this much large tooling and presses required are beyond the production capability of our company. Sorry for the confusion this may have caused. Mar-Ktech __________________ GET MAR-K Quality! Restoration and Custom Pickup Parts for Chevy, GMC, Ford, Dodge and Custom Trucks

12-26-2005, 11:43 PM	#19
roger0080 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Carver County, Minnesota, USA Posts: 626	Re: 68-72 reproduction long fleet bedsides Thanks for the answer MAR-Ktech, but may I ask (genuinely) since there are short bed fleet tooling and presses already stamping out these out fenders out, how much more can it cost to build, I presume from scratch, the same fendor only 4 feet longer? Would it be a $500K tooling job? Any ideas? Thanks. -Roger __________________ 72 Chev C-10 90% restored (former AZ truck) ... 71 Chev K-20 Cheyenne my vacation crusier... 72 Chev C-10 Now retired and striped after many faithful miles... 72 GMC 1500 Retired to the junk yard after bought new in '71...

12-27-2005, 08:43 PM	#20
Green Machine Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Estherville, Iowa Posts: 3,371	Re: 68-72 reproduction long fleet bedsides So if I read between the lines, Mar-k did have a supplier making those. Is that supplier still making them even if they are not so good ? Could it be possible to bring up the quality on those rather than retool ? Oh, I don't think they are 4 foot longer, that would be a longhorn on steroids __________________ 1968 C10 307 3spd Long Fleet ------ http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=201103 1970 C10 305 Super T10 Long Fleet --- http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=202285 1971 C20 383 TH350 Dana Posi ----- http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=206894 2001 GMC Sierra 1500 C3 6.0

12-27-2005, 09:10 PM	#21
northerngmc Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Whitehorse YK Canada Posts: 2,651	Re: 68-72 reproduction long fleet bedsides I understand MAR-K to say that they are no longer going to carry the SWB fleetsides and that LWB fleetsides are not being reproduced. I think other parts vendors are still selling SWB fleetsides. Yes, 4 feet longer would be quite the truck. LWB are 8ft, but are SWB 6 or 6.5 ft? __________________ Blaine 59 GMC 9314 a.k.a. Whoopee 68 C20 50th Anniversary a.k.a. The Rat http://www.flickr.com/photos/northerngmc/ http://www.members.tripod.com/P-wee/index_032.htm 1.61803 is one H of a lot better than 3.14159, no really it is!

12-27-2005, 09:47 PM	#22
roger0080 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Carver County, Minnesota, USA Posts: 626	Re: 68-72 reproduction long fleet bedsides Yeah yeah I see know 4 feet is ridiculous but I hope you got the gist of the message! __________________ 72 Chev C-10 90% restored (former AZ truck) ... 71 Chev K-20 Cheyenne my vacation crusier... 72 Chev C-10 Now retired and striped after many faithful miles... 72 GMC 1500 Retired to the junk yard after bought new in '71...

12-28-2005, 10:13 PM	#25
weasel29gm SLOW BUT SURE,BUT CLOSER Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: eleanor wv usa Posts: 3,094	Re: 68-72 reproduction long fleet bedsides I used to work in a stamping plant, and to launch a a repo is costly. GM junked all the dies years ago. We had a plant manager that had contacts at GM. Remember when the 67-72 Burb sides was talked about bein' reproduced? He made some calls to GM about the old dies, all were scraped. If Dyacorn can stamp a '69 Camaro body,how come they don't the LWB sides? Supply and demand. As far as fitment goes is steel we're usin' these days. I've seen panels change in a hours time due to a roll change in the blanker area. Unless you find OEM,most of the time you'll have issues. When the SWB repos came out I was ready to buy a pair, I got a deal on some used,for less than one repo cost. __________________ 69 C-10, OWNED 38YRS... 350 over 30, 350 Turbo, 3:73 Posi P/S, P/B Black with red and black int. ''LOVE THESE OLD ''TRUCKS.......

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