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ScienceGuy · 01-06-2006, 01:59 AM

I would love to powder coat my frame and suspension parts..but hey I'm on a teachers salary..Any alternatives that look good and are durable?

cdowns · 01-06-2006, 02:02 AM

rustoleum $8 a quart// it's all in the prep work

**dennislbrooks** · 01-06-2006, 07:49 AM

Zero-Rust is another choice, can be sprayed, rolled, or brushed--or all 3.

cypress TX 72 · 01-06-2006, 08:11 AM

POR-15
POR-15
POR-15
POR-15
All in the prep is a fact...

chevyfarmer · 01-06-2006, 09:24 AM

1. sandblast
2. epoxy primer
3. chassis black paint with hardner.

Longhorn Man · 01-06-2006, 09:30 AM

POR15 is harder, and more durable than anything else listed here so far (including the powedercoat) AND is a rust converter.

BubbaGreen · 01-06-2006, 09:50 AM

I originally tried zerorust - black. However, I didnt think it was all that durable, the finish looked good but was easily scuffed and scratched.
I ended up putting on eastwoods chassis black extreme - satin. So far I am totally impressed, however, time will tell.
POR-15 is another good/great choice, it was a little too glossy for my tasted and the sell a semi-gloss black and I have used it on a few things but it seems to seperate a bit during the drying process which gives it a swirly gloss/flat black appreance, ok for small surfaces, but not sure the outcome on a frame...it is extremely durable.
Also, how well you prep the work makes all the difference. I had my frame sandblasted, took two hours and cost me 150.00

Longhorn Man · 01-06-2006, 09:57 AM

You have to paint over the POR anyways, so get the normal gloss stuff, and cover it with some run of the mill paint.

**StingRay** · 01-06-2006, 01:20 PM

Epoxy paint. Rustoleum makes some good stuff.

72MARIO · 01-06-2006, 04:09 PM

If you decide to go balck and epoxy prime. GET BLACK TINTED PRIMER. That way when it gets chipped they will not be yellow or grey scratches.

POR 15 is hammer proof. My buddie did his frame with it and we hit it with a 5 pound hammer and it did not chip. If I would have knowan about POR 15 I would have blasted my frame then used the POR 15. He just painted over the rust and it's not smooth enough for me.

cypress TX 72 · 01-07-2006, 04:30 AM

Here is a POR'd Frame - I bet a Chainsaw couln't scratch that paint.
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krue · 01-07-2006, 05:18 AM

That frame is purdy!

Tx Firefighter · 01-07-2006, 07:36 AM

POR15 is the only way to go.

Like Andy said, it needs to be painted, so get the POR15 paint rather than the normal POR15 stuff. They sell a whole line of paint and other products.

Sweet72 · 01-07-2006, 08:21 AM

Once you POR-15 something you better like it cause it's gonna stay for a long, long time. I started applying POR to my frame and later decided to go with Eastwood Chassis Black. The POR was VERY HARD to remove with the pressure blaster, so hard that I had to score it with a utility knife so the abrasive had somewhere to get ahold of. The abrasive was bouncing off like it was armor plated! I've found that POR-15 is real finicky to apply and store, so if you go this route read and follow the directions closely or you'll be disappointed.

jamis · 01-07-2006, 09:48 AM

I used rustoleam, If your truck is low enough, nobody will ever see the frame anyway.

Powder coating is the way to go for trailer queens and show stoppers. IF your absolutely sure you wont do some cutting or welding on the frame at a later date or all that money you spent on a flawless job is not flawless any more. I had to cut and weld on my frame for header clearance….glad I didn’t invest in powder coating.

Yes I am jealous of you guys with the powder coated frames, there’s no denying how good they look

Never used por15 but I may give it a try on my next project.

Huck · 01-07-2006, 09:51 AM

POR15 works well on frame's buttt--it interesting in that it needs a somewhat rougher surface to really hold well. Too smooth and it doesn't hold as tight. Also as Andy says, you got to get the metal clean of any oil, grease, or loose dirt for the paint to hold and then you really need to paint over the por15 for UV protection. That said, it will last longer they you will keep the truck.

SLIMJIM · 01-07-2006, 02:13 PM

Cypress TX,

Is that por 15 rust preventative gloss black on that frame, or the por Hardnose paint with the hardener additive? That frame looks great.

I will be sandblasting my frame myself and I want to use the silver por 15, with the marine clean and metal ready. What do ya'll reckon would be enough to do a whole frame and suspension with two coats plus the inside floorboards and undercarriage, two quarts? A Gallon? Thanks.

SLIMJIM

*FormerMember* · 01-07-2006, 03:32 PM

The only problem I had with POR is on a flexible frame, it will crack as the frame flexes and it doesn't.

Buy your POR15 on Ebay. I bought a complete engine kit in Chevy Orange for 19.99. That's cleaner, silver POR15 and chevy orange paint plus brushes, scrubbies, tape, etc.

ScienceGuy · 01-09-2006, 02:20 AM

I agree with krue, your frame is sweet..

01-06-2006, 01:59 AM	#1
ScienceGuy Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: N. California Posts: 35	Alternatives to powder coat I would love to powder coat my frame and suspension parts..but hey I'm on a teachers salary..Any alternatives that look good and are durable? __________________ 72 Chevy C10 Custom Deluxe 03 Camary (Family Ride) 96 Jetta (piece of sh**)

01-06-2006, 02:02 AM	#2
cdowns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: daytonabeach Posts: 22,956	Re: Alternatives to powder coat rustoleum $8 a quart// it's all in the prep work __________________ 71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY

01-06-2006, 07:49 AM	#3
dennislbrooks Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Williamsburg, Ohio Posts: 1,798	Re: Alternatives to powder coat Zero-Rust is another choice, can be sprayed, rolled, or brushed--or all 3.

01-06-2006, 08:11 AM	#4
cypress TX 72 Saving one 72 at a time!! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 261	Re: Alternatives to powder coat POR-15 POR-15 POR-15 POR-15 All in the prep is a fact...

01-06-2006, 09:24 AM	#5
chevyfarmer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Owosso, Mi Posts: 242	Re: Alternatives to powder coat 1. sandblast 2. epoxy primer 3. chassis black paint with hardner. __________________ 67 short wide 355ci 3 on tree 69 short wide 250ci 3 on tree 68 long wide 283 3 on tree 72 2wd Blazer project 454 5 speed

01-06-2006, 09:30 AM	#6
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: Alternatives to powder coat POR15 is harder, and more durable than anything else listed here so far (including the powedercoat) AND is a rust converter.

01-06-2006, 09:50 AM	#7
BubbaGreen Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Cedar Park, TX Posts: 686	Re: Alternatives to powder coat I originally tried zerorust - black. However, I didnt think it was all that durable, the finish looked good but was easily scuffed and scratched. I ended up putting on eastwoods chassis black extreme - satin. So far I am totally impressed, however, time will tell. POR-15 is another good/great choice, it was a little too glossy for my tasted and the sell a semi-gloss black and I have used it on a few things but it seems to seperate a bit during the drying process which gives it a swirly gloss/flat black appreance, ok for small surfaces, but not sure the outcome on a frame...it is extremely durable. Also, how well you prep the work makes all the difference. I had my frame sandblasted, took two hours and cost me 150.00 __________________ 71 Chevy C-10 SWB Fleetside RamJet-350/4L60e & Compushift/3.73Posi See it at www.prismnet.com/~grzanich

01-06-2006, 09:57 AM	#8
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: Alternatives to powder coat You have to paint over the POR anyways, so get the normal gloss stuff, and cover it with some run of the mill paint.

01-06-2006, 01:20 PM	#9
StingRay Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Saskatoon,SK,Canada Posts: 2,476	Re: Alternatives to powder coat Epoxy paint. Rustoleum makes some good stuff. __________________ Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Canada

01-06-2006, 04:09 PM	#10
72MARIO Registered User Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Huntsville Ontario Canada Posts: 4,051	Re: Alternatives to powder coat If you decide to go balck and epoxy prime. GET BLACK TINTED PRIMER. That way when it gets chipped they will not be yellow or grey scratches. POR 15 is hammer proof. My buddie did his frame with it and we hit it with a 5 pound hammer and it did not chip. If I would have knowan about POR 15 I would have blasted my frame then used the POR 15. He just painted over the rust and it's not smooth enough for me. __________________ 1968 Suburban numbers matching all original truck now equipped with 6.0/4L80 on Accuair http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=625017 1967 C/20 6.0/4L80 Roofing Truck 1990 V2500 Suburban "Plow Truck" 2005 TAHOE DD

01-07-2006, 04:30 AM	#11
cypress TX 72 Saving one 72 at a time!! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 261	Re: Alternatives to powder coat Here is a POR'd Frame - I bet a Chainsaw couln't scratch that paint.

01-07-2006, 05:18 AM	#12
krue Designated A-hole! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Mississippi Posts: 36,448	Re: Alternatives to powder coat That frame is purdy! __________________ "If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!" Being stupid ain't illegal. We're Still Debt Free Except for the House!!! www.daveramsey.com 70 GMC SWB Stepside project "Green Booger" soon to be 6.0l/4l80e 93 S-10 "Poppaw's Truck"

01-07-2006, 07:36 AM	#13
Tx Firefighter Watch out for your cornhole ! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Azle, Texas Posts: 14,162	Re: Alternatives to powder coat POR15 is the only way to go. Like Andy said, it needs to be painted, so get the POR15 paint rather than the normal POR15 stuff. They sell a whole line of paint and other products. __________________ I'm on the Instagram- @Gearhead_Kevin

01-07-2006, 08:21 AM	#14
Sweet72 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 1,534	Re: Alternatives to powder coat Once you POR-15 something you better like it cause it's gonna stay for a long, long time. I started applying POR to my frame and later decided to go with Eastwood Chassis Black. The POR was VERY HARD to remove with the pressure blaster, so hard that I had to score it with a utility knife so the abrasive had somewhere to get ahold of. The abrasive was bouncing off like it was armor plated! I've found that POR-15 is real finicky to apply and store, so if you go this route read and follow the directions closely or you'll be disappointed. __________________ '72 GMC SWB C1500 Custom, frame-off in progress. 383 SBC, 9:1CR, Comp Cams XE262H, Scat internal balanced crank, Eagle SIR 6" rods, Keith Black dish pistons, Dart Iron Eagle 72/180 heads, Weiand Stealth intake, Stewart stage I water pump, Holley 4bbl vac sec, TH350 with B&M Shift Improver Kit. 12 bolt positraction.

01-07-2006, 09:48 AM	#15
jamis F.A.S.T. president Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 1,883	Re: Alternatives to powder coat I used rustoleam, If your truck is low enough, nobody will ever see the frame anyway. Powder coating is the way to go for trailer queens and show stoppers. IF your absolutely sure you wont do some cutting or welding on the frame at a later date or all that money you spent on a flawless job is not flawless any more. I had to cut and weld on my frame for header clearance….glad I didn’t invest in powder coating. Yes I am jealous of you guys with the powder coated frames, there’s no denying how good they look Never used por15 but I may give it a try on my next project. __________________ F.A.S.T. President and Founder Fabricators for the Advancement of Sawsall Technology "A fear of the Sawsall is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." ~Sigmund Freud, "General Introduction to Psychoanalysis" Last edited by jamis; 01-07-2006 at 09:52 AM.



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01-07-2006, 09:51 AM	#16
Huck Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Shelbyville, KY Posts: 3,261	Re: Alternatives to powder coat POR15 works well on frame's buttt--it interesting in that it needs a somewhat rougher surface to really hold well. Too smooth and it doesn't hold as tight. Also as Andy says, you got to get the metal clean of any oil, grease, or loose dirt for the paint to hold and then you really need to paint over the por15 for UV protection. That said, it will last longer they you will keep the truck.

01-07-2006, 02:13 PM	#17
SLIMJIM Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Charleston, South Carolina Posts: 285	Re: Alternatives to powder coat Cypress TX, Is that por 15 rust preventative gloss black on that frame, or the por Hardnose paint with the hardener additive? That frame looks great. I will be sandblasting my frame myself and I want to use the silver por 15, with the marine clean and metal ready. What do ya'll reckon would be enough to do a whole frame and suspension with two coats plus the inside floorboards and undercarriage, two quarts? A Gallon? Thanks. SLIMJIM __________________ 1970 Chevrolet Blazer 2 wheel drive - SOLD

01-07-2006, 03:32 PM	#18
FormerMember Account Suspended Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,051	Re: Alternatives to powder coat The only problem I had with POR is on a flexible frame, it will crack as the frame flexes and it doesn't. Buy your POR15 on Ebay. I bought a complete engine kit in Chevy Orange for 19.99. That's cleaner, silver POR15 and chevy orange paint plus brushes, scrubbies, tape, etc.

01-09-2006, 02:20 AM	#19
ScienceGuy Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: N. California Posts: 35	Re: Alternatives to powder coat I agree with krue, your frame is sweet.. __________________ 72 Chevy C10 Custom Deluxe 03 Camary (Family Ride) 96 Jetta (piece of sh**)

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