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Old 01-18-2006, 04:51 AM   #1
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Cars in Barns type of Packrats stay away

You guys have those dudes who you know that you can deal with, and then there are those people that are complete packrats that hoard everything that in their little minds MIGHT be of use to the 200 projects that they never work on or tore down and will never put back together. I gotta get pics this weekend of this one cats stash none of it is of any value at this point due to ........ IAMGONNARESTORETHATITIS loosely translated rotted literally into the ground anyone else know these types of dudes feel free to post Mike
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Old 01-18-2006, 04:53 AM   #2
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Theres a guy close to me that won't sell anything. Has a 69 Z-28 427,4-speed that covered by tarp in a old garage. Owned over 30 yrs. One guy needed a 12 bolt posi, '' yea I got one'' Took a hour to dig for it,found it. ""Oh! not for sale'' Thats the way he is!! LOL!!!
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Old 01-18-2006, 08:28 AM   #4
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I had a friend years back that always held on to 409 engines and parts, along with rare early small block and big block parts. He always said he was going to use them for projects. Well, he dropped dead a few years back, and all those parts were thrown away by his wife, not knowing what they were worth. She didn't even tell anyone she was doing this. Just called in a scrap dealer and had the stuff removed. I often wonder if that junk man knew what he got from her.....
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Old 01-18-2006, 09:59 AM   #5
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Mike,
I AM that guy, BUT, the HUGE difference with me is, I share the wealth. I keep EVERYTHING, but I take it one step further and try to either trade or give away as much stuff as I can EVERY year. It is something I TRULY enjoy, and it winds up helping A LOT of other people do something THEY truly enjoy. If you HOARD and let stuff rot, you are not doing ANYBODY any good. That's the nice part about this board for me, it gives me a chance to mingle with my fellow hoarders, and we ALL wind up helping each other out with either parts or knowledge or friendship or ALL 3. Pretty cool concept I think. Take care, Mike
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Old 01-18-2006, 10:14 AM   #6
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I'm afraid I'm "that guy" as well. The '58 apache has been sittin since about '97. Had several offers to buy it. I don't want to sell it. The poor '67 has been sittin for a year and a half. That's about to change.

My dad has a 67 firebird hardtop, a 68 firebird ragtop, and a 68 firebird ragtop sprint that have been sitting for at least 20 years. The 67 was ameturely restore in the early 90's and driven for a few years, but has been sitting since then.

Look at the car/truck lists in some peoples avatars. They can't be drivin them all.
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There was a salvage yard in my home town like that. You could see the part from the road, but they said they didn't have it. If you pressed them, they'd tell you never to come back. Only did business with body shops and the salvage community. I still get angry when I drive by there.
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Cool stories guys I am not trying to offend anyone just kind of poke fun at the unrealistic behaviors of some people keep the stories coming and pics if you got em thanks Mike
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Old 01-18-2006, 10:53 AM   #9
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Nah, not offended. I've been upset by some non-sellers before. I wanted to buy a 69 GTO that had been sitting for about 10 years. I even had a decent amount of cash for it. No sale. It sat for a few more years and then the guy sold it to another guy I know for 900 bucks! I offered him 1500 a few years earlier. It was a really solid car from the west he bought and never did anything with. Oh well, I was 17 and probably would have killed myself in it
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Old 01-18-2006, 10:58 AM   #10
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I AM that guy, BUT, the HUGE difference with me is, I share the wealth. I keep EVERYTHING, but I take it one step further and try to either trade or give away as much stuff as I can EVERY year. It is something I TRULY enjoy, and it winds up helping A LOT of other people do something THEY truly enjoy. If you HOARD and let stuff rot, you are not doing ANYBODY any good. That's the nice part about this board for me, it gives me a chance to mingle with my fellow hoarders, and we ALL wind up helping each other out with either parts or knowledge or friendship or ALL 3. Pretty cool concept I think. Take care, Mike

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Old 01-18-2006, 01:46 PM   #11
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unfortunately, i've got (2) of them close to me. one's got a 69/70 wrecker that i've eyed ever since i bought my house in '99, and the other is a 69 short step. i've stopped to talk to both of them, they guy with the wrecker says he still uses it, but i've only seen it move once. the other, he gave me some song and dance about how hopped up the motor & tranny are and how he used to drag race everyone and win before he had kids, and is going to fix up the truck and start driving it for a DD here soon. That was 2 years ago, and he did move it after i stopped and talked to him, but it doesn't look like he's working on it... oh well, and i've got crap i'm dying to get rid of and haven't been able to...
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Old 01-18-2006, 03:16 PM   #12
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Had a 67 Fairlane years ago I really liked but sold in a moment of weakness, now it sits on a farm pasture rotting away..been there for well over a decade, and they won't sell because they "are gonna restore it someday"..riiight. They can't even put it inside the barn. A friend's brother had a 1970 AMC Javelin Mark Donohue signature car, all the spoilers, 360 ram air, tach, etc..all there, never monkeyed with, and I tried for YEARS to buy it. I offered him $2000 (this was in the late 80's) but he never thought I was serious. Wouldn't a normal person at least call me out on the offer and see?Eventually the clown ends up selling it to some guy for $400 who wrapped it around a pole within weeks. I still ask him wth he was smoking back then.
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I only own one car that is not for sale, so check the sig and offer away J/K!! I have seen many of, "Well I'm going to fix/restore that." My brother who passed away 6 months ago tried to buy a 67 chevelle about 10 years ago and offered $3500 (back then they were not as hot of a ticket and it was not in great shape) anyways the guy refused to sell, then he went a little nuts (litterally, he started obsessing about the rat droppings in it and made himself sick) he GAVE it away!! My brother was sick. I have been trying to track it down as it has been cleaned up and sold at least once. Anyways the only one I will not sell is the 70 Camaro, unless someone insults me with money, does that make me sellwhore (sell anything for $$$?)
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I guess you guys probably figured out right away that I am a packrat just by how my signature says that I still have my FIRST CAR (27 years now). It doesn't get much PACKRATTIER than THAT I don't guess! I'm not much of a SELLER, but I try to keep the IMPORTANT ones dry, and the rest of them I keep in an orderly manner for the neighbors sake. If you were sitting at the bottom of my driveway, you would say I had 4 or 5 cars here NOT the ACTUAL 21 (at last count) I also try to keep my parts collection orderly as well. (organized messes as I like to call them) Long Live the (progressive)PACKRAT!
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Yep, NW Tennessee is full of those people isn't it Craig? Grandpas neighbor has an 86 SS ElCamino, it was a PERFECT black cherry colored car....the water pump went bad about 10 years ago, and it's sat ever since, under a lean-to. He won't come off it, he's "gonna fix it someday" We have our fair share of those kinda folks around here too, for instance the 71 Plymouth Duster 340/4speed car that sat in a back alley next to a shed near here for years (since 1983). The for sale sign in the window was so faded we could barely get the number off of it. We called a few times, never got any reply, drove back by about a month later, and the car was gone. I can only assume it was moved inside the shed it was sitting next to, to rot.
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i guess am well on my way to that my only problem is that i am 21 and am in the military and about half way across the country from my stuff last time i went home dad had helped alot of it disappear including a big block truck
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When I was in college, I saw a 69 z28 at a gas station with the front end up and motor obviously out. This was in 1979. It was a clean car, red with black stripes, black interior. It sat for probably a year and I decided to stop and ask about it. Owner ran the station and told me it wasn't for sale, he was just rebuilding the motor. Not a nice guy, told me don't bother coming back. Lots of years passed and I would always go by whenever I was in town to see if it had moved, it never did. It did gradually disappear behind and under a mound of tires, starters, water pumps, and misc parts. After more than twenty years, I went by and it was still there. I made a trip back with my trailer and a pocket full of cash and stopped to ask about it, same guy says he is going to fix it up. I told him he said the same thing 20 years ago, just tell me a price. He said he wasn't interested. Couple of years later the place closed and I had my camera with me and snapped some pics that were published in a Muscle Car magazine that had a decaying muscle car of the month feature. It was enough to make you sick. Car had less than 70k miles and was nice and clean when parked in '79. After living under a pile of parts and tires for over 20 years it was junk, windshield and door glass broken out. All the sheet metal was rusted and or dented, and the interior was trash. I HATE idiots like that.
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I just ran across one of "those people"..lol. I noticed a 67 C10 sitting in a field that I hadn't seen before...it look pretty bad, but I stopped to see if I could find out who owned it.

Well I finally found the right house for the owner. The mother answered the door and told me that it's her son's truck, it belonged to his grandfather and that it has been sitting back there for at least 15 years...the reason I could see it now, was that they had to move if as they are clearing out some land for her sisters house..and get this..she told me that the wheels were completely locked up and they had to drag it across the property with a another truck!

So I asked the obvious..."Will he sell it?"...the answer was "no"....so I guess it will just sit and rot into the ground!
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I happened to be one of those also. The major difference is that all the good stuff . except whats in line to be stripped, is stored inside and organized. The process takes time and my feeling is after all the time, effort and money getting these parts, I am going to wait until my projects are done. You never know what you might need, usually it's what you just got rid of.
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There used to be a 63 Impala locally that just sat in front of a shop. I stopped and asked about buying it several times over about a 10 year period. I was always told "It will never be for sale". Then one day...poof, it was gone. I didn't see it for a couple of years. The ironic thing is that now the new owner has brought it to our shop for a restoration.
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I limit myself to stuff I can use now. I turn stuff down because my dad is one of those guys. One junk truck, one engine to rebuild and parts for the truck I have. My dad has a 75 Corvette, a 51 Lincoln a 68 GTO and a 90 454SS, none of which he drives, all but the GTO could sell now after 5-10 years of talking him into it.
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I should not talk since I have owned my 67 for 10 years and have only driven it once (when I moved to a new house). I did start restoring it a few years ago. Now that the kids are a little older and my other projects are somewhat done, it might actually be completed this spring!

I had my brother's 65 Mustang in my yard with no brakes for 2 years. I would get notes on the door, in the mailbox, on the car or people stopping me to ask if it was for sale at least once a month. Some people would even offer to haul it away for free (such nice people)! I could not believe how rude some people got when I said my brother was going to fix it up. We fixed the brakes after the 2 years and he drove it for another 5 before we completely rebuilt the engine and repainted the car. It just proves that sometimes the good intentions actually to end in results.

I watched an 85 Grand National sit in the grass at a local trans shop for 7 years. I was told it was not for sale everytime I asked. There was never a reason given. Then the shop closed and the car is gone to who knows where.

I am currently watching an 84 Grand National less than 1/2 mile from my house. It has been sitting in the driveway rotting for 3 years now. I have not knocked on the door yet since I am working on the truck but there is still a chance it will be mine!
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I'm the opposite of a hoarder. My budget helps in this regard. I'm selling my first car right now on e-bay. 1971 chevelle. I'd rather someone else enjoy it, than have it take up space and get dented, rust, deteriorate. That car was my prize posession in high school, and I'd love to see someone else have that much fun. I just hope they live out of town so I don't have to watch them run it into a phone pole.
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