Tire Balancing

[Tynee]

For you guys running the super fattie's, how do you balance them? I've got a buddy who's tried several different shops w/ no luck finding one who could balance a tire as wide as his, including a heavy truck repair joint.

I remember a thread from a while ago about somebody running golf balls, and that didn't work. Also mentioned in that thread was this: http://www.innovativebalancing.com/

Does anybody know anything about this particular product, or one like it? Pro's/Con's?

[2wdBlazer]

they balanced my 38's on a regular balancer. I have a borgeson U-joint on my steering shaft with a built in Vibration dampner. Works excellent.

[LONGHAIR]

A heavy-duty truck tire shop should be able to "true" them. This involves shaving off the high spots and making them truly round.....balancing will be far easier and use much less weight. It may sound counter-productive to actually cut some of the tread off, but they will last longer and ride better.
Most of the time they are quieter while running down the road too.

[4x4Poet]

Hunter's GSP 9700 balancer can solve some problems regular spin balancers can't. Locate a GSP9700 near you on the site button by that name. Also read how it works by, in part, placing force on the tread with a roller to simulate road conditions.

[Zoomad75]

Air soft BB's. Wont rust like regular bb's and won't beat the hell out of the inside of the tire like golf balls will. Plus they are big enough not to fit through the valve stem. Cheap too. CK5.com had a couple of big discussions on it a while back. One guy took the time to figure out how many bb's it took to measure out to certain amount.

Plus unlike dyna beads and Equal, you could reuse the bb's if you wanted to when the tires wore out..Besides balancing at the tread is much more accurate than wieghts on the rim. Plus they correct for the life of the tire and don't get knocked off when wheeling.

[4x4Poet]

Hunter GSP9700 operators should be able to weight patch the inside of the tire. Adds expense to the balancing effort, but weight at the inside of the tread plies is better than rim-placed weight as Zoomad75 stated. Less weight at tire than rim is required since the farther from the hub the more affect weight has on balance. Centrifugal force physics, ya know. The tire shaving/trueing idea has great merit as well. Especially for tires with deep lugs.

[Zoomad75]

I know the truing works too. It is shocking to see just how much rubber gets shaved off of the tires you just spend $200 plus for though.

A Repair shop owner I've talked to that did it for OTR trucks said the trucking companies got more mileage out of the tires than ones balance normally. Less wear and tear due to the lack of vibration issues...Still sickening to see the pile when they get done with your new swampers or other big balonies.

[LONGHAIR]

Oh yeah, almost sickening to see it cut off. But they really are so much better after. The first time I ever saw this done was in the late eighties, on a brand new set of Super Swampers. They were the first set of 42" TSLs I mounted. They were put on a friend of mine's '87LWB C20. After a few days of bad/bouncy ride, and rebalancing, he took them to a big truck tire shop. They took off more than a quarter inch of the tread in the high spots. They were the best riding and quietest tires you ever saw. It was like a totally different truck. Since the tire is not fighting with the road or the truck they last a lot longer too, even though part of the tread is removed.

[tornado_tech]

When I had my boggers balanced, I had the local Goodyear shop put in the powder that they use for semi tires. It cost right about $10 for each tire but you never have to worry about weights falling off when wheeling.

[Tynee]

Thanks for all the input, fellas. Just linked my buddy thread.

[bronx]

I have Dyna Beads in my 39,5" boggers and it works great.

[krue]

Will this work for any tires?

[LONGHAIR]

I wouldn't believe that those tiny pellets could do anything on a huge off-road tire. Plus I'm not sure that I would trust them to not hurt the inside to the tire anyway. I can see them frozen into a big blob if the there is any moisture it the air used to inflate the tire too. I used to work in a 4X4 repair/accessory shop and I have seen many tires with water inside them. Big tires take a lot of air volume and you can never be sure how dry the source was when you inflated them. And it still doesn't make them round.....truing is the best way.

[Tynee]

So, if you decide to trust that the beads won't damage the inside of your tire, and that they won't freeze, what's stopping a guy from having his brand new tires trued, then using the beads in them as well?

[Chevrolet4x4s]

So do you just put in the beads and they go to the light spot of the tire?Also will this work on normal tires(as in stock to 33s) other than monster boggers ?
Thanks
Shane

[Tynee]

Yeah, check out the link above, they've got a chart that shows the proper amount of beads by tire size.

[Zoomad75]

THis is an old thread from CK5.com but recently brought up with more info. About halfway through it one guy gives a pretty good explaintion of how anything inside the tire can balance it. The items used or brought up range from the bb's, golf balls, mouse balls (the computer kind!), equal and air soft bb's.

http://coloradok5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64357

It is a good read, plus there are other threads over there on the same subject that go into more detail on the airsoft bb concept.

[LONGHAIR]

Balanced maybe..........but that still doesn't make them truly round. You can balance an square, but it won't ride very well.

[big86]

Powder balancing.... I had it done in my 37" Swampers, works fine.