The 9,999,999th Eaton ID Question... - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

Misled · 02-26-2006, 02:55 PM

.....OK, before ya bust my butt or not searching....I did, and I'm either too dumb to find the answer or this really is confusing....

Identifying numbers found...
Casting number "3934635" on the 3rd member
"T PW 052 702" stamped on the 3rd member

I was under the "assumption" that the HO72 had the load bolt. My red circled area is the load bolt, correct? This is a from my son's 1970 K20 and there were only a couple owners before us, so I think it is all original, which most sources say this should be the HO52. The stamped number includes a "52"......I suppose that would be too simplistic, huh?!?!?

I will also assume that I have the open differential, since each side will spin opposite of each other in my fingers. (I know, I'm REAL high tech!!!)

Can ya guys (gals) help me?!?!?!?!

Thanks,

Misled

Rod · 02-26-2006, 04:41 PM

The same guts would bolt into either diff the H052 or H072...so not sure what you want to know..but either will work..and yah that one has the load bolt. It's not the guts that matter really..you just take that whole third member and swap it in....that's the easy way. They both use the same axle spline count. The load bolts on both the H052 or H072...but on the latter years.
And from what I can see from your pic its not as detroit locker...I got em ..and there is no locker as I can see the inner gear in the pic.

Longhorn Man · 02-26-2006, 06:33 PM

I have owned 2 HO52's, and they both had that deflection bolt, just like my HO72.

Misled · 02-26-2006, 07:09 PM

Thanks guys, for your help........

I guess the big reason I'm asking is for proper documentation of the truck, buying parts, and for my own knowledge.

I would have thought, that there was a definative way (casting numbers, stamps, etc.) to tell what these axles are. Engine blocks and many other parts have a way of being positively ID'ed........

Take care,

Misled

1969 GMC · 02-27-2006, 01:24 AM

There may be, but it is not at all as well documented as Chevy engines.
EDIT: both of my Eaton 3rd members had the pinion and ring gear tooth counts stamped into them, and it looks like it was done by hand. I couldn't see any markings on the one that came factory with the locker.

It is an open diff, I can see spider gears in the 2nd pic.

**special-K** · 02-27-2006, 10:13 AM

No differentiation because there`s no differencr,same parts.The difference is in the brakes/outer area.And,the fact that no HO52s were narrow.

Rod · 02-27-2006, 11:47 AM

I did look up the casting number but it wasn't in my parts book. "3934635"..if the last number was a 4 then it would have been in there...but even so all it listed was the rear cover casting piece for 68-72 3/4 and 1 ton trucks.

Longhorn Man · 02-27-2006, 05:58 PM

And no HO72's were set up for coils.

02-26-2006, 02:55 PM	#1
Misled Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Nashport, OH Posts: 549	The 9,999,999th Eaton ID Question... .....OK, before ya bust my butt or not searching....I did, and I'm either too dumb to find the answer or this really is confusing.... Identifying numbers found... Casting number "3934635" on the 3rd member "T PW 052 702" stamped on the 3rd member I was under the "assumption" that the HO72 had the load bolt. My red circled area is the load bolt, correct? This is a from my son's 1970 K20 and there were only a couple owners before us, so I think it is all original, which most sources say this should be the HO52. The stamped number includes a "52"......I suppose that would be too simplistic, huh?!?!? I will also assume that I have the open differential, since each side will spin opposite of each other in my fingers. (I know, I'm REAL high tech!!!) Can ya guys (gals) help me?!?!?!?! Thanks, Misled Attached Images Last edited by Misled; 02-26-2006 at 02:59 PM.

02-26-2006, 04:41 PM	#2
Rod Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Eastern - Manitoba Canada, Winnipeg Posts: 4,369	Re: The 9,999,999th Eaton ID Question... The same guts would bolt into either diff the H052 or H072...so not sure what you want to know..but either will work..and yah that one has the load bolt. It's not the guts that matter really..you just take that whole third member and swap it in....that's the easy way. They both use the same axle spline count. The load bolts on both the H052 or H072...but on the latter years. And from what I can see from your pic its not as detroit locker...I got em ..and there is no locker as I can see the inner gear in the pic. __________________ Senior active founding member. 70 3/4 ton GMC Suburban 4x4 250/4 spd. 71 1/2 ton Suburban Chevy 4x4, 350/350 72 Chev 1 ton tow truck 402BB w/Holmes 440 wrecker on propane 2005 FLSTSCI Harley Springer 85 FXSB Harley Lowrider 72 Triumph 650 Bonneville 5spd "Poor people don't have hobbies" Quote from wife. Last edited by Rod; 02-26-2006 at 04:44 PM.

02-26-2006, 06:33 PM	#3
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: The 9,999,999th Eaton ID Question... I have owned 2 HO52's, and they both had that deflection bolt, just like my HO72.

02-26-2006, 07:09 PM	#4
Misled Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Nashport, OH Posts: 549	Re: The 9,999,999th Eaton ID Question... Thanks guys, for your help........ I guess the big reason I'm asking is for proper documentation of the truck, buying parts, and for my own knowledge. I would have thought, that there was a definative way (casting numbers, stamps, etc.) to tell what these axles are. Engine blocks and many other parts have a way of being positively ID'ed........ Take care, Misled

02-27-2006, 01:24 AM	#5
1969 GMC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The Rubber City Posts: 5,498	Re: The 9,999,999th Eaton ID Question... There may be, but it is not at all as well documented as Chevy engines. EDIT: both of my Eaton 3rd members had the pinion and ring gear tooth counts stamped into them, and it looks like it was done by hand. I couldn't see any markings on the one that came factory with the locker. It is an open diff, I can see spider gears in the 2nd pic. __________________ 1969 GMC K2500 1996 Honda Accord 2007 Kawasaki KLR 650 Last edited by 1969 GMC; 02-27-2006 at 01:25 AM.

02-27-2006, 10:13 AM	#6
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: The 9,999,999th Eaton ID Question... No differentiation because there`s no differencr,same parts.The difference is in the brakes/outer area.And,the fact that no HO52s were narrow. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

02-27-2006, 11:47 AM	#7
Rod Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Eastern - Manitoba Canada, Winnipeg Posts: 4,369	Re: The 9,999,999th Eaton ID Question... I did look up the casting number but it wasn't in my parts book. "3934635"..if the last number was a 4 then it would have been in there...but even so all it listed was the rear cover casting piece for 68-72 3/4 and 1 ton trucks.

02-27-2006, 05:58 PM	#8
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: The 9,999,999th Eaton ID Question... And no HO72's were set up for coils.



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