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454_72_4X4 · 03-18-2006, 10:58 PM

Just thought I'd post up some pics of my 250 rebuild.
I guess it's not really a rebuild though. More like a disassembly/cleaning/swapping parts/reassembly...

Here's what it looked like a couple weeks ago!

I skipped al the disassembly and cleaning pics. Who wants to see that anyway...

Tad cleaner.

Shifter rails/forks installed.

Input gear/shaft installed. (idler gear/shaft is in there too.)

454_72_4X4 · 03-18-2006, 11:09 PM

Output shaft and bearing installed.

Front output shaft installed.

Threaded rollpin access holes.

Factory adapter installed.

4x4Poet · 03-19-2006, 06:25 AM

Awesome! I need to do the same.

White on an NP205? Bold color choice...

**BOSS** · 03-19-2006, 10:46 AM

Looks nice,i should have done mine while it was out but i was in a hurry to get it going

454_72_4X4 · 03-19-2006, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 4x4Poet

Awesome! I need to do the same.

White on an NP205? Bold color choice...

Actually it's gray primer with clear coat over it! LOL
I still have to touch up the spots where I removed to much paint on the gasket surfaces.

I picked the gray because it kinda looks "industrial" and it'll be easy to spots the leaks....

I'm gonna try to pick up the NV4500 later today, (from a friend), so I can go through it also and cut the output shaft off to the correct length for the AA adapter kit.
No need to hurry for me, since I'm still waiting on $, (tax return), to order the adapter kit.

4x4Poet · 03-20-2006, 07:32 AM

You clearcoated primer??

That seems even bolder.

454_72_4X4 · 03-21-2006, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4x4Poet

You clearcoated primer??

That seems even bolder.

Nah, not bold, just easy... I didn't have any gray paint but I did have primer and clear coat!! LOL

**Phuloi68** · 03-21-2006, 12:35 AM

you putting a new indicator light switch in?

454_72_4X4 · 03-21-2006, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Phuloi68

you putting a new indicator light switch in?

Yea, I'll have to get one of those.
At first I thought I might just bend the terminal back up and try to use this one, but when I bent it up I found out it has/had 2 terminals...

My truck doesn't have the indicator light so I didn't know about the 2 terminals.
Now I'll have to find a place for the indicator light too!

**Phuloi68** · 03-21-2006, 01:06 AM

Not sure on the 72 truck(think thats what your working on) but the instrument cluster for 73-87 is the same for 2wd or 4wd. You just have to add the bulb to the 2wd to make it work. Of course, you need the switch and wire too.

454_72_4X4 · 03-21-2006, 01:18 AM

Yep, mime is a 72. I don't think the 72 and earlier ever came with a 4x4 light but then again, I could be wrong. Before I found this board I didn't know they came with alot of stuff!

BLAZERMAN · 03-21-2006, 01:19 AM

Youve been busy Tracey, looks great!! Wanna do another?

454_72_4X4 · 03-21-2006, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BLAZERMAN

Youve been busy Tracey, looks great!! Wanna do another?

Sure, send it on over. I'll trade ya 205 rebuild labor for a NV4500 Chevy inputand/or output shaft! (For my "new" Dodge NV that was supposed to be a Chevy NV....

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**Phuloi68** · 03-21-2006, 01:36 AM

When I started playing around with a 4wd I didn't think the (73-87) 2wd cluster had the light and lettering but it did. Hopefully the 72 is the same. Just add the bulb socket.
Went to chevy to get a new switch. They couldn't come up with one. Got one from a shop in calif. It had a chevy p/n and I went back to chevy and they said, oh yea, we got it. Go figure.

454_72_4X4 · 03-21-2006, 01:49 AM

Don't suppose you still have that part number would ya? I've been wondering how much of a battle it would be to get that switch.

**Phuloi68** · 03-21-2006, 02:01 AM

p/n 14024304 If they don't come up with it, niehoff ignition parts back-up lgt sw p/n dr-130t is the same thing. They all have a p/n15121 493 stamped on them but I can't identify who the manuf is.
If that don't get it for you, let me know and I will come up with thee shop in calif who supplied me with mine. They have rebuild kits, and about anything else needed for transfer cases

**Phuloi68** · 03-21-2006, 02:05 AM

By the way, the paint job looks good. I just took a can of black spray paint and did mine.
Also, that switch is, or was, 12 bucks.

smokekiki · 03-21-2006, 09:46 AM

The 72 did not have a light.You will need to add one.

OLDCHEV4X4 · 03-21-2006, 12:56 PM

What did you have to do to switch it over to the bolt on yoke.

454_72_4X4 · 03-22-2006, 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phuloi68

p/n 14024304 If they don't come up with it, niehoff ignition parts back-up lgt sw p/n dr-130t is the same thing. They all have a p/n15121 493 stamped on them but I can't identify who the manuf is.
If that don't get it for you, let me know and I will come up with thee shop in calif who supplied me with mine. They have rebuild kits, and about anything else needed for transfer cases

Thanks! That will probably save alot of hassle at the parts store.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLDCHEV4X4

What did you have to do to switch it over to the bolt on yoke.

Basically you have to change the output shaft itself, the rear bearing retainer, the speedo gear, and add the yoke. Everything bolts up and fits fine.
Those 15 little needle bearings between the input shaft and the output shaft are a little of an adventure but not to bad. A little gun grease or vaseline and they stay in place while you put the two shafts together.

I did change the small housing that the rear bearing retainer bolts to also, but that was just because the other housing vent was perfectly in front of one of the bolts that holds the housing to the case body...

(Open end wrench only to get it out.) Now I can use a socket/ratchet.

**Canadian694x4** · 03-22-2006, 01:36 AM

Nice Work!!

**Phuloi68** · 03-22-2006, 02:00 AM

Not sure if I saved you some work or not. After I sent that last night, I looked at the different places I had dealt with and things have changed.
I have a folder of everything I have bought or fixed on my truck so I know the stuff existed a year ago.
GM Parts direct does not list the switch anymore. Maybe chevy has a new p/n for the 14024304.
Under the Niehoff webb site, I don't see the DR-130t number. I know it existed cause I have one right in front of me in the box.
check: http://niehoff.com/catalogs/oeint_public.asp put in the p/n 14024304
The vendor I got one in calif from, the 800 # is not any good. I do have his Email address if that is any good.
Wish I knew the manuf cause that 15121 is right on the switch.

454_72_4X4 · 03-22-2006, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phuloi68

Not sure if I saved you some work or not. After I sent that last night, I looked at the different places I had dealt with and things have changed.
I have a folder of everything I have bought or fixed on my truck so I know the stuff existed a year ago.
GM Parts direct does not list the switch anymore. Maybe chevy has a new p/n for the 14024304.
Under the Niehoff webb site, I don't see the DR-130t number. I know it existed cause I have one right in front of me in the box.
check: http://niehoff.com/catalogs/oeint_public.asp put in the p/n 14024304
The vendor I got one in calif from, the 800 # is not any good. I do have his Email address if that is any good.
Wish I knew the manuf cause that 15121 is right on the switch.

The 14024304 number comes right up at the Niehoff sight! Even has a pic of it.
The local parts store should be able to cross reference it and find me one somehow.
The Niehoff site says "Manufacturer, GM" and "Description, BW". Could the "BW" stand for Borg Warner maybe?
I'll try the parts store today and see what they come up with and post it back here.

Thanks alot, even if the #'s aren't exact, it's alot more than I had!

454_72_4X4 · 03-24-2006, 12:45 AM

Got the switch today! Had to order it yesterday but it came in this morning.

The guy at the parts store, (Carquest), said the 14024304 is a GM number. He recognized it right off as being a GM number when I got confused and told him it was a Niehoff number.

He cross referenced it and came up with the number EC TCA3, which is in a CarQuest box but says "A product of Standard Motor Products, Inc."
My cost was $16.83.
A little higher than your estimate/cost but I suppose everything costs more all the time.
Kinda dissapointed it didn't come with a new gasket, since I lost one out of my 205 gasket kit, but that's a minor detail.

Thanks again for the numbers and effort to look 'em up!

**Phuloi68** · 03-24-2006, 01:03 AM

Just out of curosity, did it have that 15121 number stamped on it?
Thanks for the updated number, I will add it to my info.

03-18-2006, 10:58 PM	#1
454_72_4X4 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: N.E. MO Posts: 1,749	Few pics of my NP205 rebuild Just thought I'd post up some pics of my 250 rebuild. I guess it's not really a rebuild though. More like a disassembly/cleaning/swapping parts/reassembly... Here's what it looked like a couple weeks ago! I skipped al the disassembly and cleaning pics. Who wants to see that anyway... Tad cleaner. Shifter rails/forks installed. Input gear/shaft installed. (idler gear/shaft is in there too.) __________________ 72 C20 4X4 454 4 speed 89 Trans Am (was) 305 TPI 700r4 93 C1500 2wd Extended cab 350 700r4 98 Sonoma (TPI outa the Trans Am) 03 Yamaha 660 Raptor 03/04 660 Raptor 07 700 Raptor 85 Honda Odyssey

03-18-2006, 11:09 PM	#2
454_72_4X4 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: N.E. MO Posts: 1,749	Re: Few pics of my NP205 rebuild Output shaft and bearing installed. Front output shaft installed. Threaded rollpin access holes. Factory adapter installed. __________________ 72 C20 4X4 454 4 speed 89 Trans Am (was) 305 TPI 700r4 93 C1500 2wd Extended cab 350 700r4 98 Sonoma (TPI outa the Trans Am) 03 Yamaha 660 Raptor 03/04 660 Raptor 07 700 Raptor 85 Honda Odyssey

03-19-2006, 06:25 AM	#3
4x4Poet Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: "Under Montana skies." Posts: 1,836	Re: Few pics of my NP205 rebuild Awesome! I need to do the same. White on an NP205? Bold color choice... __________________ '71 GMC K20 Suburban, '71 GMC K10 Suburban, '72 Chevy C10 CST Suburban, '72 Chevy K20 clunker pickup.

03-19-2006, 10:46 AM	#4
BOSS Just here to help Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Norwood,Mo Posts: 3,890	Re: Few pics of my NP205 rebuild Looks nice,i should have done mine while it was out but i was in a hurry to get it going __________________ Support our site Norwood Survivor

03-20-2006, 07:32 AM	#6
4x4Poet Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: "Under Montana skies." Posts: 1,836	Re: Few pics of my NP205 rebuild You clearcoated primer?? That seems even bolder. __________________ '71 GMC K20 Suburban, '71 GMC K10 Suburban, '72 Chevy C10 CST Suburban, '72 Chevy K20 clunker pickup.

03-21-2006, 12:35 AM	#8
Phuloi68 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Valparaiso, In Posts: 1,114	Re: Few pics of my NP205 rebuild you putting a new indicator light switch in? __________________ Phuloi68 Indy survivor Norwood survivor Big Sandy survivor for those who fight for it... F R E E D O M has a price the protected will never know.

03-21-2006, 01:06 AM	#10
Phuloi68 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Valparaiso, In Posts: 1,114	Re: Few pics of my NP205 rebuild Not sure on the 72 truck(think thats what your working on) but the instrument cluster for 73-87 is the same for 2wd or 4wd. You just have to add the bulb to the 2wd to make it work. Of course, you need the switch and wire too. __________________ Phuloi68 Indy survivor Norwood survivor Big Sandy survivor for those who fight for it... F R E E D O M has a price the protected will never know.

03-21-2006, 01:18 AM	#11
454_72_4X4 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: N.E. MO Posts: 1,749	Re: Few pics of my NP205 rebuild Yep, mime is a 72. I don't think the 72 and earlier ever came with a 4x4 light but then again, I could be wrong. Before I found this board I didn't know they came with alot of stuff! __________________ 72 C20 4X4 454 4 speed 89 Trans Am (was) 305 TPI 700r4 93 C1500 2wd Extended cab 350 700r4 98 Sonoma (TPI outa the Trans Am) 03 Yamaha 660 Raptor 03/04 660 Raptor 07 700 Raptor 85 Honda Odyssey

03-21-2006, 01:19 AM	#12
BLAZERMAN Currently Blazerless Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: St. Joseph Mo. Posts: 4,828	Re: Few pics of my NP205 rebuild Youve been busy Tracey, looks great!! Wanna do another? __________________ 1972 C/30 133" W.B. C&C 1970 GMC 3500 157" W.B. single wheel C&C

03-21-2006, 01:36 AM	#14
Phuloi68 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Valparaiso, In Posts: 1,114	Re: Few pics of my NP205 rebuild When I started playing around with a 4wd I didn't think the (73-87) 2wd cluster had the light and lettering but it did. Hopefully the 72 is the same. Just add the bulb socket. Went to chevy to get a new switch. They couldn't come up with one. Got one from a shop in calif. It had a chevy p/n and I went back to chevy and they said, oh yea, we got it. Go figure. __________________ Phuloi68 Indy survivor Norwood survivor Big Sandy survivor for those who fight for it... F R E E D O M has a price the protected will never know.

03-21-2006, 01:49 AM	#15
454_72_4X4 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: N.E. MO Posts: 1,749	Re: Few pics of my NP205 rebuild Don't suppose you still have that part number would ya? I've been wondering how much of a battle it would be to get that switch. __________________ 72 C20 4X4 454 4 speed 89 Trans Am (was) 305 TPI 700r4 93 C1500 2wd Extended cab 350 700r4 98 Sonoma (TPI outa the Trans Am) 03 Yamaha 660 Raptor 03/04 660 Raptor 07 700 Raptor 85 Honda Odyssey

03-21-2006, 02:01 AM	#16
Phuloi68 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Valparaiso, In Posts: 1,114	Re: Few pics of my NP205 rebuild p/n 14024304 If they don't come up with it, niehoff ignition parts back-up lgt sw p/n dr-130t is the same thing. They all have a p/n15121 493 stamped on them but I can't identify who the manuf is. If that don't get it for you, let me know and I will come up with thee shop in calif who supplied me with mine. They have rebuild kits, and about anything else needed for transfer cases __________________ Phuloi68 Indy survivor Norwood survivor Big Sandy survivor for those who fight for it... F R E E D O M has a price the protected will never know.

03-21-2006, 02:05 AM	#17
Phuloi68 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Valparaiso, In Posts: 1,114	Re: Few pics of my NP205 rebuild By the way, the paint job looks good. I just took a can of black spray paint and did mine. Also, that switch is, or was, 12 bucks. __________________ Phuloi68 Indy survivor Norwood survivor Big Sandy survivor for those who fight for it... F R E E D O M has a price the protected will never know.

03-21-2006, 09:46 AM	#18
smokekiki Mike Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: west chester pa Posts: 2,473	Re: Few pics of my NP205 rebuild The 72 did not have a light.You will need to add one. __________________ 70'c/10, 71 suburban4x4 402bb, 72suburban 4/6 drop, 72k/5 4x4 blazer 4" lift 35 tires

03-21-2006, 12:56 PM	#19
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03-22-2006, 01:36 AM	#21
Canadian694x4 Born To Lose Club Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Calgary, Alberta/Oxenden, Ontario, Great White North Posts: 13,307	Re: Few pics of my NP205 rebuild Nice Work!! __________________ Brian Smith - "Born To Lose" 1969 Chevrolet K10 LWB Fleetside - Proud Owner For 22 Yrs - 1 of 208 Built & Sold In Canada!- 283 V8/350TH/NP208, 2" All Spring Lift, 32" Good Year MT/R's. 1972 GMC K2500 Custom LWB Fleetside - Proud Owner For 3 Yrs - 1 of 571 Built & Sold In Canada! - 350 V8/SM465/NP205, 4” Rough Country Lift, 33” Interco TSL Thornbirds 2007.5 GMC Sierra SLE 2500HD 4x4 - Proud Owner For 17 Yrs- 6.6L V8 Duramax Diesel/Allison 1000, 2" Lift, 33" Mickey Thompson MTZ's. 2008 Yamaha Raptor 700r - Proud Owner For 15 Yrs - ITP Mud Lites. 2015 John Deere 1025R - Proud Owner For 8 Yrs - 24HP Diesel/H120/54D/260B/SB1154.

03-22-2006, 02:00 AM	#22
Phuloi68 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Valparaiso, In Posts: 1,114	Re: Few pics of my NP205 rebuild Not sure if I saved you some work or not. After I sent that last night, I looked at the different places I had dealt with and things have changed. I have a folder of everything I have bought or fixed on my truck so I know the stuff existed a year ago. GM Parts direct does not list the switch anymore. Maybe chevy has a new p/n for the 14024304. Under the Niehoff webb site, I don't see the DR-130t number. I know it existed cause I have one right in front of me in the box. check: http://niehoff.com/catalogs/oeint_public.asp put in the p/n 14024304 The vendor I got one in calif from, the 800 # is not any good. I do have his Email address if that is any good. Wish I knew the manuf cause that 15121 is right on the switch. __________________ Phuloi68 Indy survivor Norwood survivor Big Sandy survivor for those who fight for it... F R E E D O M has a price the protected will never know. Last edited by Phuloi68; 03-22-2006 at 02:03 AM.

03-24-2006, 12:45 AM	#24
454_72_4X4 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: N.E. MO Posts: 1,749	Re: Few pics of my NP205 rebuild Got the switch today! Had to order it yesterday but it came in this morning. The guy at the parts store, (Carquest), said the 14024304 is a GM number. He recognized it right off as being a GM number when I got confused and told him it was a Niehoff number. He cross referenced it and came up with the number EC TCA3, which is in a CarQuest box but says "A product of Standard Motor Products, Inc." My cost was $16.83. A little higher than your estimate/cost but I suppose everything costs more all the time. Kinda dissapointed it didn't come with a new gasket, since I lost one out of my 205 gasket kit, but that's a minor detail. Thanks again for the numbers and effort to look 'em up! __________________ 72 C20 4X4 454 4 speed 89 Trans Am (was) 305 TPI 700r4 93 C1500 2wd Extended cab 350 700r4 98 Sonoma (TPI outa the Trans Am) 03 Yamaha 660 Raptor 03/04 660 Raptor 07 700 Raptor 85 Honda Odyssey

03-24-2006, 01:03 AM	#25
Phuloi68 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Valparaiso, In Posts: 1,114	Re: Few pics of my NP205 rebuild Just out of curosity, did it have that 15121 number stamped on it? Thanks for the updated number, I will add it to my info. __________________ Phuloi68 Indy survivor Norwood survivor Big Sandy survivor for those who fight for it... F R E E D O M has a price the protected will never know.

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