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5150 · 05-09-2006, 12:37 PM

see ten and I were talking this weekend about his quick ratio steering box he has on his truck and he mentioned that he thought the same thing could be achieved by some newer model gear boxes. Anybody have any idea which ones? or are we wrong?

**Palf70Step** · 05-09-2006, 01:04 PM

I know 1980 - 87 full size truck boxes are, I think it might even include any of the 73-87 boxes from the fullsize trucks.

5150 · 05-12-2006, 01:51 PM

Anybodyelse want to back up Bill's comment before I go to the junkyard?

sdmahr · 05-12-2006, 03:13 PM

I'm interested in this too as I am in the process of wanting to install a power gear-box and a quicker ratio box that is a BOLT UP would be great. So far all I hear is that the fittings are metric o-ring vs. the old type.

Anybody have a years recommendation? We can always have hoses made with the proper fittings to match old-style pump to new-style boxes.

Longhorn Man · 05-12-2006, 03:19 PM

73 - 87 boxes work, and they are variable rate boxes, but as far as I know, there are no quick ratio boxes from another aplication that'll work.

PanelDeland · 05-12-2006, 03:34 PM

OK I'll jump in with both feet.I would like Rack and pinion but I haven't seen any except the new one out that uses a thinner aftermarket crossmember.When looking at the original crossmember I thought the lower control arm mounts would make an Ideal point to put a bracket to locate said Rack.It would probably require more than just those 2 mounting points.Has anyone seen one or heard of a "bolt-in" type system to do this.

Longhorn Man · 05-12-2006, 03:57 PM

some one came on here about 3 years ago asking about interest, he was looking into making a bolt in R&P unit... no clue what ever happened with the idea.

5150 · 05-12-2006, 04:45 PM

Andy-Explain Variable Rate Box?

Mine is leaking at where the steering shaft goes into the box. I actually ahve a later model front end on my truck so somebody has already changed over the power steering pump. Hell, I might already have a 73-87 gear box.

LUV2XCLR8 · 05-12-2006, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yellow69

Andy-Explain Variable Rate Box?

I believe that is what is on "GQ"

*Taken from the PO's list of New parts

AGR STEERING BOX (VARIABLE RATIO)

Longhorn Man · 05-12-2006, 05:03 PM

It's hard to explain... think, slow steering at center... and faster steeering past a 1/4 turn from center. You really wouldn't notice it onless you pay real close attention... or go from one to another.

LUV2XCLR8 · 05-12-2006, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longhorn Man

You really wouldn't notice it onless you pay real close attention... or go from one to another.

Trust me, you do w/ 35's

Longhorn Man · 05-12-2006, 05:20 PM

good point

LUV2XCLR8 · 05-12-2006, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longhorn Man

good point

In all seriousness I agree w/ Andy, on a lowered 2wd you might
hardly ever notice the differance, but you have 20's, so maybe

Ackattack · 05-12-2006, 05:29 PM

I was reading about guys with first gen camaros using 3rd gen camaro quick ratio boxes, but have no idea if they'll just bolt in.

I'm going to be replacing mine soon since it leaks.

Longhorn Man · 05-12-2006, 06:01 PM

Camaro boxes are inside the frame, trucks are outside.
Wouldn't work.

crazy longhorn · 05-12-2006, 06:23 PM

I have an 84 Burb box on my longhorn.....love it. It took 1 full turn out of the lock to lock,as compaired to the old 69 box. The meteric fittings were an easy "hassel", just used the hoses & fitting (rear of the pump) from the Burb. I really like the feel of the steering, & will say that that old 133" longhorn is easier to park than the kids Ferd ranger! Im not sure why, but it takes some doing to turn that Ferd around? I am 2wd, lowered, with 15"(basically stock height tires for a 1/2 ton), & will say the box was a nice addition to my old truck, & noticable......

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5150 · 05-12-2006, 06:25 PM

I just would like to know when I go get the 73-87 gear box, am I upgrading or am I getting the same? I guess I won't know until I do it. Either way I don't have a problem with my steering just don't like the small leak. Figured if there was an upgrade on a newer style gear box would do it while the old one is out.

Bob Moore · 05-12-2006, 08:03 PM

Yellow 69 - If your steering is now 4+ turns lock to lock you probably have the original box. The newer and variable ratio box will be in the 3+ lock to lock area. Lock to lock means how many turns hard left all the way to hard right.

Hope this helps a little bit - Bob

kbs71 · 05-13-2006, 04:48 AM

Was surfing and came across this. For you guys that REALLY want rack and pinion steering check out this link.
http://www.jimmeyerracing.com/ifs7.html

LUV2XCLR8 · 05-13-2006, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbs71

Was surfing and came across this.

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

GRAYGHOST · 05-13-2006, 08:10 AM

If you have a small leak, put you some trans-x in your pump. It stopped the leak on my pump. It's worth a shot.

cheford · 05-03-2007, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longhorn Man

Camaro boxes are inside the frame, trucks are outside.
Wouldn't work.

Hi, I'm new to this site and was inquiring about rack and pinion. As mentioned in my introduction, I'm building a 56 f100 panel truck on a 72 c10 frame and would like to have the steering linkage on the inside of the frame if possible because I don't want to hack a hole in my newly fabricated inner fenders. Could or would it be possible to convert to a Camaro box with some fabricating or would I be considered out to lunch

John

05-09-2006, 12:37 PM	#1
5150 C10 Club Tennessee Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: White House, TN 37188 Posts: 8,281	Power Steering Gear Box Options? see ten and I were talking this weekend about his quick ratio steering box he has on his truck and he mentioned that he thought the same thing could be achieved by some newer model gear boxes. Anybody have any idea which ones? or are we wrong? __________________ Bryan www.gmtruckshow.com Project "Andes"-Halen's First Truck Project: Patina Burb for he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer. Romans 13:4

05-09-2006, 01:04 PM	#2
Palf70Step State of Confusion! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gulfport, MS USA Posts: 46,762	Re: Power Steering Gear Box Options? I know 1980 - 87 full size truck boxes are, I think it might even include any of the 73-87 boxes from the fullsize trucks. __________________ Bill 1970 Chevy Custom/10 LWB Fleetside 2010 Toyota Tacoma PreRunner SR5 Double Cab - DD Member of Louisiana Classic Truck Club (LCTC) Bill's Gallery Life isn't tied with a bow, but it's still a gift. Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God! Last edited by Palf70Step; 05-09-2006 at 01:05 PM.

05-12-2006, 01:51 PM	#3
5150 C10 Club Tennessee Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: White House, TN 37188 Posts: 8,281	Re: Power Steering Gear Box Options? Anybodyelse want to back up Bill's comment before I go to the junkyard? __________________ Bryan www.gmtruckshow.com Project "Andes"-Halen's First Truck Project: Patina Burb for he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer. Romans 13:4

05-12-2006, 03:13 PM	#4
sdmahr Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: South Texas....the Valley Posts: 199	Re: Power Steering Gear Box Options? I'm interested in this too as I am in the process of wanting to install a power gear-box and a quicker ratio box that is a BOLT UP would be great. So far all I hear is that the fittings are metric o-ring vs. the old type. Anybody have a years recommendation? We can always have hoses made with the proper fittings to match old-style pump to new-style boxes.

05-12-2006, 03:19 PM	#5
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Power Steering Gear Box Options? 73 - 87 boxes work, and they are variable rate boxes, but as far as I know, there are no quick ratio boxes from another aplication that'll work.

05-12-2006, 03:34 PM	#6
PanelDeland I am a Referee of life. Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Greensboro N.C. Posts: 13,993	Re: Power Steering Gear Box Options? OK I'll jump in with both feet.I would like Rack and pinion but I haven't seen any except the new one out that uses a thinner aftermarket crossmember.When looking at the original crossmember I thought the lower control arm mounts would make an Ideal point to put a bracket to locate said Rack.It would probably require more than just those 2 mounting points.Has anyone seen one or heard of a "bolt-in" type system to do this. __________________ The 47-present Chevrolet and GMC Truck Message Board Network,it's owners,moderators,members,and associates of any type should not be held responsible for my opinion. You can't fix stupid,not even with duct tape. "My appearance is due to the fact that "GOD" does punish you for having too much fun!" Barrett-Jackson has perfected alchemy,they make rust into gold! "You can lead a horse to water but you can't saddle a duck" "Cleverly disguised as a 'Responsible Adult' "Sometimes your Knight in shining armor is just a retard in tinfoil"

05-12-2006, 03:57 PM	#7
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Power Steering Gear Box Options? some one came on here about 3 years ago asking about interest, he was looking into making a bolt in R&P unit... no clue what ever happened with the idea.

05-12-2006, 04:45 PM	#8
5150 C10 Club Tennessee Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: White House, TN 37188 Posts: 8,281	Re: Power Steering Gear Box Options? Andy-Explain Variable Rate Box? Mine is leaking at where the steering shaft goes into the box. I actually ahve a later model front end on my truck so somebody has already changed over the power steering pump. Hell, I might already have a 73-87 gear box. __________________ Bryan www.gmtruckshow.com Project "Andes"-Halen's First Truck Project: Patina Burb for he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer. Romans 13:4

05-12-2006, 05:03 PM	#10
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Power Steering Gear Box Options? It's hard to explain... think, slow steering at center... and faster steeering past a 1/4 turn from center. You really wouldn't notice it onless you pay real close attention... or go from one to another.

05-12-2006, 05:20 PM	#12
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Power Steering Gear Box Options? good point

05-12-2006, 05:29 PM	#14
Ackattack Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Valley Center KS Posts: 3,525	Re: Power Steering Gear Box Options? I was reading about guys with first gen camaros using 3rd gen camaro quick ratio boxes, but have no idea if they'll just bolt in. I'm going to be replacing mine soon since it leaks. __________________ Project Bruiser: 68 Pro-Touring C-10 5.3L / 4L60E Project Ironhide: 97 GMC Crew Cab 4x4 Cummins SOLD: '69 GMC 1/2T SWB TBI'd: Project No Buck Assembly Manual Index Sign up Thread!!! Factory Service Manual Index

05-12-2006, 06:01 PM	#15
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Power Steering Gear Box Options? Camaro boxes are inside the frame, trucks are outside. Wouldn't work.

05-12-2006, 06:23 PM	#16
crazy longhorn Fabricate till you "puke" Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ill Posts: 9,403	Re: Power Steering Gear Box Options? I have an 84 Burb box on my longhorn.....love it. It took 1 full turn out of the lock to lock,as compaired to the old 69 box. The meteric fittings were an easy "hassel", just used the hoses & fitting (rear of the pump) from the Burb. I really like the feel of the steering, & will say that that old 133" longhorn is easier to park than the kids Ferd ranger! Im not sure why, but it takes some doing to turn that Ferd around? I am 2wd, lowered, with 15"(basically stock height tires for a 1/2 ton), & will say the box was a nice addition to my old truck, & noticable...... L __________________ 69 longhorn,4" chop,3/5 drop, 1/2 ton suspension/disc brakes,1 1/2" body drop,steel tilt clip, 5.3/Edelbrock rpm intake/600 carb, Hooker streetrod shorties,2 1/2" exhaust/ H pipe/50's Flows , 6 spd Richmond trans,12 bolt/ 3.40 gears....

05-12-2006, 06:25 PM	#17
5150 C10 Club Tennessee Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: White House, TN 37188 Posts: 8,281	Re: Power Steering Gear Box Options? I just would like to know when I go get the 73-87 gear box, am I upgrading or am I getting the same? I guess I won't know until I do it. Either way I don't have a problem with my steering just don't like the small leak. Figured if there was an upgrade on a newer style gear box would do it while the old one is out. __________________ Bryan www.gmtruckshow.com Project "Andes"-Halen's First Truck Project: Patina Burb for he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer. Romans 13:4

05-12-2006, 08:03 PM	#18
Bob Moore Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tacoma WA Posts: 1,365	Re: Power Steering Gear Box Options? Yellow 69 - If your steering is now 4+ turns lock to lock you probably have the original box. The newer and variable ratio box will be in the 3+ lock to lock area. Lock to lock means how many turns hard left all the way to hard right. Hope this helps a little bit - Bob __________________ 67 C-20 LWB, tilt, speed alert, vac, 454, T400 67 C-10 SWB, factory air with more to follow



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05-13-2006, 04:48 AM	#19
kbs71 71 rustless in texas Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 257	Re: Power Steering Gear Box Options? Was surfing and came across this. For you guys that REALLY want rack and pinion steering check out this link. http://www.jimmeyerracing.com/ifs7.html __________________ "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." "No one really listens to anyone else, and if you try it for a while you'll see why" 71 C-10 LWB presently in a perpetual state of disassembly '96 Toyota (my work car) '04 Mustang Convertable (wife's car & other money pit) Latest aquesition and why my trucks still in the garage covered with junk.. 2010 Aqua Blue metallic 6 speed Manual LS3 2SS/RS Camaro (I want one of these in my truck FAQ here VENDORS here SUPPORT THE BOARD here My second favorite SITE

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GRAYGHOST Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Spring, Tx. Posts: 31	Re: Power Steering Gear Box Options? If you have a small leak, put you some trans-x in your pump. It stopped the leak on my pump. It's worth a shot.

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