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tom71 · 05-18-2006, 11:08 PM

i ve heard of people using serpentine set ups from a astro van that was a cheap way to go any body no what year van and engine size ? or other alternatives ???thanks tom

chevy_fatman · 05-18-2006, 11:12 PM

You can use a serpentine setup from any 4.3 vortec, which years I'm not quite sure.

wibilly · 05-18-2006, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chevy_fatman

You can use a serpentine setup from any 4.3 vortec, which years I'm not quite sure.

is this still using the short water pump?

Aarons72s · 05-18-2006, 11:22 PM

Hi,
They use a long, reverse rotation water pump. If you watch Trucks they just did something similar using a 4.3l from an s10 onto a replacement V8.
I hope this helps.

TugOwar · 05-19-2006, 12:03 AM

Bookmarked this thread, hopefully someone will have the year models necessary for this swap. Great info.

TugOwar · 05-19-2006, 08:42 AM

ttt

Putter · 05-19-2006, 09:18 AM

I don't think the year model is really a factor....as long as it is a serpentine set up. I think there are a few different variations, though. Like one has a seperate narrow belt for the power steering, I think, while others have only the one wider belt. I saw a set up on a full sized Buick (Park Avenue I think) on Wednesday evening that had everything on the passenger side and an electric water pump (stock). Not even a serpentine bracket at all on the driver's side.
Late 80's thru late 90's should be safe.

krue · 05-19-2006, 09:21 AM

I have '93 4.3 or smallblock. Doesn't matter if it's s-10, blazer, or truck as far as I can tell. Try to get the aluminum brackets.

Chris H · 05-19-2006, 09:46 AM

***Edited by Moderator***

2 things not to overlook when making the serpentine swap:
-the water pump needs to match the serpentine setup, it runs backwards from the "normal" pump
-the fan blades are also pitched in the opposite direction so the "normal" fan wont work

Similar setups are found on pickups/tahoes/suburbans from 1988 and newer, as well as 4.3 S10s and Astros.

TugOwar · 05-19-2006, 10:51 AM

Good info, thanks guys.

Ya know the sad thing is, my bank account doesn't grow at the same rate my "to-do" list does.

**Palf70Step** · 05-19-2006, 04:44 PM

As mentioned, any of the 4.3, 305, 350 serpentine set ups will work as long as they are pre-96. When the Vortec V8 came out they changed all the mountings (alternator on Passenger side). If you don't have AC, you can get an AC delete pulley from the dealer. The only thing you have to watch for is pulley alignmentment. Some of the earlier 4.3's crank pulley won't work on the V-8 because the 4.3 used a thinner damper, thus the pulley is deeper. Not sure of the year though. Mine is off a 94 4.3 and everything is the same as the V8 except some of the upper bracing rods, which many folks don't use (without a problem either).

aitch · 05-19-2006, 07:02 PM

I plan to go to electric fan(s). How does this series serpentine work with electric fans?

**Palf70Step** · 05-19-2006, 08:17 PM

That is all anyone is running that has gone with it. Mine isn't hooked up yet, but I have some fans from a Windstar with the big V6, I know one with fans from a dodge, and other various brands plus aftermarket kits too.

krue · 05-19-2006, 11:55 PM

Chris H if you wanna sell, please do it on the Parts Board. (Or at least use pm)

Chris H · 05-20-2006, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krue

Chris H if you wanna sell, please do it on the Parts Board. (Or at least use pm)

My apologies.
It was more for info on what one could expect to pay for a nice complete setup, but point taken.

05-18-2006, 11:08 PM	#1
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05-18-2006, 11:12 PM	#2
chevy_fatman Where's my beer? Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I live in the state of denial.... Posts: 5,621	Re: what serpintine set up to use ? You can use a serpentine setup from any 4.3 vortec, which years I'm not quite sure. __________________ Paul How do you make the invisible, visible?.........You take it away.

05-18-2006, 11:22 PM	#4
Aarons72s Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: oklahoma Posts: 10,670	Re: what serpintine set up to use ? Hi, They use a long, reverse rotation water pump. If you watch Trucks they just did something similar using a 4.3l from an s10 onto a replacement V8. I hope this helps.

05-19-2006, 12:03 AM	#5
TugOwar Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Pleasanton, TX Posts: 1,723	Re: what serpintine set up to use ? Bookmarked this thread, hopefully someone will have the year models necessary for this swap. Great info.

05-19-2006, 08:42 AM	#6
TugOwar Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Pleasanton, TX Posts: 1,723	Re: what serpintine set up to use ? ttt

05-19-2006, 09:18 AM	#7
Putter More Cowbell.... Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Puckett, MS Posts: 3,569	Re: what serpintine set up to use ? I don't think the year model is really a factor....as long as it is a serpentine set up. I think there are a few different variations, though. Like one has a seperate narrow belt for the power steering, I think, while others have only the one wider belt. I saw a set up on a full sized Buick (Park Avenue I think) on Wednesday evening that had everything on the passenger side and an electric water pump (stock). Not even a serpentine bracket at all on the driver's side. Late 80's thru late 90's should be safe. __________________ *There once was a member from Puckett.....Who ( fill in the blank blank blank* ) bucket** Last edited by Putter; 05-19-2006 at 09:20 AM.

05-19-2006, 09:21 AM	#8
krue Designated A-hole! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Mississippi Posts: 36,450	Re: what serpintine set up to use ? I have '93 4.3 or smallblock. Doesn't matter if it's s-10, blazer, or truck as far as I can tell. Try to get the aluminum brackets. __________________ "If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!" Being stupid ain't illegal. We're Still Debt Free Except for the House!!! www.daveramsey.com 70 GMC SWB Stepside project "Green Booger" soon to be 6.0l/4l80e 93 S-10 "Poppaw's Truck"

05-19-2006, 09:46 AM	#9
Chris H 72 C30 Trailer Queen Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: SE MN, USA Posts: 794	Re: what serpintine set up to use ? *Edited by Moderator* 2 things not to overlook when making the serpentine swap: -the water pump needs to match the serpentine setup, it runs backwards from the "normal" pump -the fan blades are also pitched in the opposite direction so the "normal" fan wont work Similar setups are found on pickups/tahoes/suburbans from 1988 and newer, as well as 4.3 S10s and Astros. __________________ Chris H 72 C30 133" 72 C30 157" flat-dump 69 C10 short fleet 71 ElCamino 2000 K2500 crewcab shortbed (sold, sorry old friend) 2005 GMC 2500HD shortcrew Duramax 2006 K1500 RCSB and a couple other projects/parts Last edited by krue; 05-19-2006 at 11:57 PM.

05-19-2006, 10:51 AM	#10
TugOwar Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Pleasanton, TX Posts: 1,723	Re: what serpintine set up to use ? Good info, thanks guys. Ya know the sad thing is, my bank account doesn't grow at the same rate my "to-do" list does.

05-19-2006, 04:44 PM	#11
Palf70Step State of Confusion! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gulfport, MS USA Posts: 46,761	Re: what serpintine set up to use ? As mentioned, any of the 4.3, 305, 350 serpentine set ups will work as long as they are pre-96. When the Vortec V8 came out they changed all the mountings (alternator on Passenger side). If you don't have AC, you can get an AC delete pulley from the dealer. The only thing you have to watch for is pulley alignmentment. Some of the earlier 4.3's crank pulley won't work on the V-8 because the 4.3 used a thinner damper, thus the pulley is deeper. Not sure of the year though. Mine is off a 94 4.3 and everything is the same as the V8 except some of the upper bracing rods, which many folks don't use (without a problem either). __________________ Bill 1970 Chevy Custom/10 LWB Fleetside 2010 Toyota Tacoma PreRunner SR5 Double Cab - DD Member of Louisiana Classic Truck Club (LCTC) Bill's Gallery Life isn't tied with a bow, but it's still a gift. Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God!

05-19-2006, 07:02 PM	#12
aitch Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: N.W. Arkansas Posts: 456	Re: what serpintine set up to use ? I plan to go to electric fan(s). How does this series serpentine work with electric fans? __________________ 69 GMC 3/4 ton LWB 383 TH400 Dana 60 '84 300ZX '79 Nova (for sale)

05-19-2006, 08:17 PM	#13
Palf70Step State of Confusion! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gulfport, MS USA Posts: 46,761	Re: what serpintine set up to use ? That is all anyone is running that has gone with it. Mine isn't hooked up yet, but I have some fans from a Windstar with the big V6, I know one with fans from a dodge, and other various brands plus aftermarket kits too. __________________ Bill 1970 Chevy Custom/10 LWB Fleetside 2010 Toyota Tacoma PreRunner SR5 Double Cab - DD Member of Louisiana Classic Truck Club (LCTC) Bill's Gallery Life isn't tied with a bow, but it's still a gift. Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God!

05-19-2006, 11:55 PM	#14
krue Designated A-hole! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Mississippi Posts: 36,450	Re: what serpintine set up to use ? Chris H if you wanna sell, please do it on the Parts Board. (Or at least use pm) __________________ "If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!" Being stupid ain't illegal. We're Still Debt Free Except for the House!!! www.daveramsey.com 70 GMC SWB Stepside project "Green Booger" soon to be 6.0l/4l80e 93 S-10 "Poppaw's Truck"



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