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chevyman 68 C/10 · 08-09-2002, 06:51 AM

I have seen postings on here that a wiper motor from a mid 80's f@rd pickup was being used to replace the gm original to obtain delay. I know some companys make add ons but i want to make it look factory with it hooked up to the late model GM switch on the tilt. Who has done this and will a Lincoln Cont. wiper motor from a mid 80's work just as well?

Tips and maybe help with wireing would be great.

Woody · 08-09-2002, 08:40 AM

If I remember this right, a ford wiper switch was used, and our orginal motor. I could be wrong.....Any how, If I knew more about what to pull a switch out of this shouldn't be too hard to figure out. Then probably have to mount the F' switch in our dash and install our knob. Any one with a delay wiper switch from a ford??

Church · 08-09-2002, 09:29 AM

I am currently testing my switch that will work with the 67-up wiper motors. It will intall just like the factory switch and will have a delay built in just like the new GM switches have. You will be able to use any knob of your choice on this switch. I hope to have all the kinks worked out soon.

Longhorn Man · 08-09-2002, 07:02 PM

Awsome..last time it rained I was trying to remember who was doing this, and if there was any progress.

woodrow59 · 08-09-2002, 07:34 PM

LOL RAIN ??? what's that ???? Only thing I need wipers for here is to get the smog off !!!!!! LOL

(still want to know how to do it)

Longhorn Man · 08-09-2002, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by woodrow59
Only thing I need wipers for here is to get the smog off !!!!!! LOL (still want to know how to do it)

For those light smog days huh?

woodrow59 · 08-09-2002, 08:42 PM

was only a code orange today ,,,,, could I get one that adjust to smog alerts ????? LOLOL

*racedvl* · 08-09-2002, 10:34 PM

Church, I would be one of the first in line to buy something like that!! I'll start saving now...

ChevLoRay · 08-09-2002, 10:41 PM

I have manual-delay wipers on my truck. I just have to figure out how long it's been since the last time they wiped and turn the switch again! Work better now that I changed the blades, too. I'm thinking about putting on some Rain-X, but the windshield has numerous cracks on the passenger side....aw, it don't matter anyway. Don't hurt the running part, none.

chevyman 68 C/10 · 08-10-2002, 06:57 AM

Church let us know how that is going, it sounds like a perfect solution to light rain- smog days ha ha .

Church · 08-10-2002, 08:45 AM

Sounds like a few of you are interested, that's good. I was hoping I was not wasting my time on this switch! I CAN'T STAND how irritating it is when it is just a heavy mist coming down and you have to keep reaching over there and turn the wiper on ,then off, then on , then back off over & over & over!! I wanted my truck to have the comfort of todays trucks, like ps, pb, pw, a/c, cruise, tilt, delay wipers, remote locks, etc. My wife told me I now will have to keep my 67 until my toes are turned up, since I have so much money in it now. I told her no problem, I plan on keepin' it until then! hehehe So why not have all of todays comfort in the stylin' 67-72's?

*Gee_Emm* · 08-10-2002, 11:11 AM

I thought we had delay wipers already, fast and slow ??? :p

If anything I would love to make the damn things go faster, man they are slow, not that this stuff matters to me since I don't drive my truck in the rain anymore. :P

*Zkast* · 08-10-2002, 11:12 AM

I'm curious about using a headlight switch for this? Might be a bit wierd at first... Pull switch one notch out for slow, full out for high then adjust the speed with the rheostat. Most of GM's intermittant wipers used variable resistance for the adjustable speed. Ford uses frequency. So as long as the rheostat would handle the low voltage/low current draw I dont see why this couldnt be adapted over.

Basicly if this idea worked out, you would go buy a new headlight switch W/harness (availible at aftermarket auto parts) and with a simple schematic, wire in the switch in place of your old wiper switch.

Whatcha guys think? If feed back is good I'll get to work on this asap

Bill72BB · 08-10-2002, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gee_Emm
I thought we had delay wipers already, fast and slow ??? :p

If anything I would love to make the damn things go faster, man they are slow, not that this stuff matters to me since I don't drive my truck in the rain anymore. :P

Thats the way I feel they need to be faster but Delayed would be nice .
What am I talking about we have only had 1.34 in of rain this year maybe I should just take them off.

Bill

TERRYP · 08-10-2002, 08:03 PM

On my 66, I used Mazda levers with a Chevy Van column, added tilt and telescope. Now I have hi-beam flash, lights and wipers on the stalks, variable intermittent wipers. I use the cruize set button to kill the tail lights for flashing trucks, and the cruize resume to activate the BU lights manually. I used a mazda wiper motor, it was real easy to fit it where the stock motor went, I use the stock bellcrank arms. Real nice, as wash squirts, wipes twice, then stops, unlike chevy. I tried to use a newer motor, but they are sett to go to a park position that is the reverse direction we want. Some Mazda's (identical to small fords) have no delay, some a set selay, some are variable, but the motor is the same. Here is a picture with the covers removed, tilted down and out.

chevyman 68 C/10 · 08-10-2002, 09:55 PM

Sounds like a workable deal on the mazda wiper,TERRYP, but i want a GM column. I wonder how hard the wiring would be to wire to a GM column.

Maybe you could use a test light and give me a idea of how to wire the motor in.

Church I am trying to do pretty much the same thing. Driveablity and a few luxurys. I almost bought a new chevy truck but I got to thinking I would much rather have a modernized old classic that no one else had.

I also will have it for ever, heck my wife asked for one of her on last week and she has a 99 GMC, a very nice truck. I quess she is begining to love these trucks as much as I do.

TERRYP · 08-11-2002, 12:03 AM

I am using a GM column, but if you are talking about control levers, there are some problems. You cannot get pull for flash lights becaiuse GM uses a HI-LO switch, and there are only 2 positions. You could get intermittent wipers with GM controls by remoting the mazda delay box, but no pull the lever for one wipe, which is probably the most useful feature for wipers, but you could have the wash switch just give one wipe, and use a separate switch for washer fluid. The motors in mazda's are smaller, but I had to cut away a portion of the 'tub' the chevy motor bolts to because the mazda motor is has a shorter overall shaft, but it is set for intermittent operation. The output shaft is larger than the GM, so I filed it down to match teh chevy bellcrank. here is the schematic, power goes to motor, all actions are by grounding:

Benrs86 · 08-11-2002, 12:14 AM

holy cow did you draw taht? im hardly smart enough to read it. thats awesome

dave's70 · 08-11-2002, 12:35 AM

If anybody wants one, my truck came with an aftermarket wiperdelay switch that bolts under the dash.It's uglier than h**l so i took it out. It looks like an old cb radio!

Lippyp · 08-11-2002, 12:13 PM

1.34 inches of rain in a year? we had more than that in one hour here last week and it's supposed to be mid summer! I can't remember the last time I went out without my wipers on. Roll on winter!

Would be interested in details of your new switch though. It does occasionally slow down to a drizzle!

Brad · 11-01-2002, 04:15 PM

What's the latest word on this Church???

barn9 · 11-01-2002, 04:56 PM

I like Zkast's line of thinking. Setting speed and delay with an original knob in the original location would be great with me. But don't stop Church, either solution would be appreciated by many of us, I'm sure. Both of you keep us posted, please.

**ThreeQuarter** · 11-01-2002, 06:53 PM

Eagerly awaiting a (hidden) delay setup.

*Piston* · 11-01-2002, 07:54 PM

Dang, I dropped the ball on this one guys.. Sorry.

I'll start working up a schematic for my plan this coming week.
Actually I'm hoping to find a different design of wiper motor that we can use. Our trucks original design just didnt offer much speed selection. Also need it for a intermittant wiper setup.

Hope to have something more by the end of next week!

Longhorn Man · 11-01-2002, 09:07 PM

I was jst thinking about this the other day when it was drizzling!

08-09-2002, 06:51 AM	#1
chevyman 68 C/10 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Gilmer, Texas USA Posts: 313	Delayed wipers on our trucks! I have seen postings on here that a wiper motor from a mid 80's f@rd pickup was being used to replace the gm original to obtain delay. I know some companys make add ons but i want to make it look factory with it hooked up to the late model GM switch on the tilt. Who has done this and will a Lincoln Cont. wiper motor from a mid 80's work just as well? Tips and maybe help with wireing would be great. __________________ 69 Chevy short fleet side soon to have LT1 and 4L60E pb. ps cruise and air. 68 Chevy short fleet side 400 sb 5 inch chop top pb. ps. pw. 350 auto and shaved handles 68 anniversary no engine long wheel base 400 auto FOR SALE 68 Chevy fleet side long wheel base complete parts truck.

08-09-2002, 09:29 AM	#3
Church Carolina Classic Trucks Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: The South Posts: 792	I am currently testing my switch that will work with the 67-up wiper motors. It will intall just like the factory switch and will have a delay built in just like the new GM switches have. You will be able to use any knob of your choice on this switch. I hope to have all the kinks worked out soon. __________________

08-09-2002, 07:34 PM	#5
woodrow59 OzarkHillbilly in Atlanta Join Date: May 2002 Location: Douglasville, Ga. Salem, Mo. Posts: 386	LOL RAIN ??? what's that ???? Only thing I need wipers for here is to get the smog off !!!!!! LOL (still want to know how to do it) __________________ 72 custom/10 LWB 68 Longhorn C20 Custom Camper (sold)

08-09-2002, 08:42 PM	#7
woodrow59 OzarkHillbilly in Atlanta Join Date: May 2002 Location: Douglasville, Ga. Salem, Mo. Posts: 386	was only a code orange today ,,,,, could I get one that adjust to smog alerts ????? LOLOL __________________ 72 custom/10 LWB 68 Longhorn C20 Custom Camper (sold)

08-09-2002, 10:41 PM	#9
ChevLoRay Old Skool Club Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Benton, AR "The Heart of Arkansas" Posts: 10,880	I have manual-delay wipers on my truck. I just have to figure out how long it's been since the last time they wiped and turn the switch again! Work better now that I changed the blades, too. I'm thinking about putting on some Rain-X, but the windshield has numerous cracks on the passenger side....aw, it don't matter anyway. Don't hurt the running part, none. __________________ Member Nr. 2770 '96 GMC Sportside; 4.3/SLT - Daily driven....constantly needs washed. '69 C-10 SWB; 350/TH400 - in limbo The older I get, the better I was.

08-09-2002, 08:40 AM	#2
Woody Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Georgetown, KY, USA Posts: 631	If I remember this right, a ford wiper switch was used, and our orginal motor. I could be wrong.....Any how, If I knew more about what to pull a switch out of this shouldn't be too hard to figure out. Then probably have to mount the F' switch in our dash and install our knob. Any one with a delay wiper switch from a ford??

08-09-2002, 07:02 PM	#4
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Awsome..last time it rained I was trying to remember who was doing this, and if there was any progress.

08-09-2002, 10:34 PM	#8
racedvl Account Suspended Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Woodstock, IL Posts: 7,020	Church, I would be one of the first in line to buy something like that!! I'll start saving now...

08-10-2002, 06:57 AM	#10
chevyman 68 C/10 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Gilmer, Texas USA Posts: 313	Church let us know how that is going, it sounds like a perfect solution to light rain- smog days ha ha . __________________ 69 Chevy short fleet side soon to have LT1 and 4L60E pb. ps cruise and air. 68 Chevy short fleet side 400 sb 5 inch chop top pb. ps. pw. 350 auto and shaved handles 68 anniversary no engine long wheel base 400 auto FOR SALE 68 Chevy fleet side long wheel base complete parts truck.

08-10-2002, 08:45 AM	#11
Church Carolina Classic Trucks Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: The South Posts: 792	Sounds like a few of you are interested, that's good. I was hoping I was not wasting my time on this switch! I CAN'T STAND how irritating it is when it is just a heavy mist coming down and you have to keep reaching over there and turn the wiper on ,then off, then on , then back off over & over & over!! I wanted my truck to have the comfort of todays trucks, like ps, pb, pw, a/c, cruise, tilt, delay wipers, remote locks, etc. My wife told me I now will have to keep my 67 until my toes are turned up, since I have so much money in it now. I told her no problem, I plan on keepin' it until then! hehehe So why not have all of todays comfort in the stylin' 67-72's? __________________

08-10-2002, 11:11 AM	#12
Gee_Emm Account Suspended Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 3,991	I thought we had delay wipers already, fast and slow ??? :p If anything I would love to make the damn things go faster, man they are slow, not that this stuff matters to me since I don't drive my truck in the rain anymore. :P

08-10-2002, 11:12 AM	#13
Zkast Account Suspended Join Date: May 2002 Location: Olathe, Kansas Posts: 929	I'm curious about using a headlight switch for this? Might be a bit wierd at first... Pull switch one notch out for slow, full out for high then adjust the speed with the rheostat. Most of GM's intermittant wipers used variable resistance for the adjustable speed. Ford uses frequency. So as long as the rheostat would handle the low voltage/low current draw I dont see why this couldnt be adapted over. Basicly if this idea worked out, you would go buy a new headlight switch W/harness (availible at aftermarket auto parts) and with a simple schematic, wire in the switch in place of your old wiper switch. Whatcha guys think? If feed back is good I'll get to work on this asap

08-10-2002, 08:03 PM	#15
TERRYP GYRO GEARLOOSE Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Nevada City, CAEverett, WA Posts: 361	On my 66, I used Mazda levers with a Chevy Van column, added tilt and telescope. Now I have hi-beam flash, lights and wipers on the stalks, variable intermittent wipers. I use the cruize set button to kill the tail lights for flashing trucks, and the cruize resume to activate the BU lights manually. I used a mazda wiper motor, it was real easy to fit it where the stock motor went, I use the stock bellcrank arms. Real nice, as wash squirts, wipes twice, then stops, unlike chevy. I tried to use a newer motor, but they are sett to go to a park position that is the reverse direction we want. Some Mazda's (identical to small fords) have no delay, some a set selay, some are variable, but the motor is the same. Here is a picture with the covers removed, tilted down and out. Attached Images __________________ Nevada City, CA Everett, Washington 57 3/4 rat, 235, 3spd 66 C-10 Panel, SWB. 350 from '68, 200R4 tranny, 3.07 rear ratio, restoring 68 C10 LWB 350 4spd, 4.56 rear dump runner 82 Camaro, 305, THM-200-R4 84 Monte Carlo 305 TH350, land tuna 85 Tercel SW, snow runner DISGRACED OUTLAW MEMBER OF THE DRUM BRAKE CLUB

08-10-2002, 09:55 PM	#16
chevyman 68 C/10 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Gilmer, Texas USA Posts: 313	Sounds like a workable deal on the mazda wiper,TERRYP, but i want a GM column. I wonder how hard the wiring would be to wire to a GM column. Maybe you could use a test light and give me a idea of how to wire the motor in. Church I am trying to do pretty much the same thing. Driveablity and a few luxurys. I almost bought a new chevy truck but I got to thinking I would much rather have a modernized old classic that no one else had. I also will have it for ever, heck my wife asked for one of her on last week and she has a 99 GMC, a very nice truck. I quess she is begining to love these trucks as much as I do. __________________ 69 Chevy short fleet side soon to have LT1 and 4L60E pb. ps cruise and air. 68 Chevy short fleet side 400 sb 5 inch chop top pb. ps. pw. 350 auto and shaved handles 68 anniversary no engine long wheel base 400 auto FOR SALE 68 Chevy fleet side long wheel base complete parts truck.

08-11-2002, 12:03 AM	#17
TERRYP GYRO GEARLOOSE Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Nevada City, CAEverett, WA Posts: 361	I am using a GM column, but if you are talking about control levers, there are some problems. You cannot get pull for flash lights becaiuse GM uses a HI-LO switch, and there are only 2 positions. You could get intermittent wipers with GM controls by remoting the mazda delay box, but no pull the lever for one wipe, which is probably the most useful feature for wipers, but you could have the wash switch just give one wipe, and use a separate switch for washer fluid. The motors in mazda's are smaller, but I had to cut away a portion of the 'tub' the chevy motor bolts to because the mazda motor is has a shorter overall shaft, but it is set for intermittent operation. The output shaft is larger than the GM, so I filed it down to match teh chevy bellcrank. here is the schematic, power goes to motor, all actions are by grounding: Attached Images __________________ Nevada City, CA Everett, Washington 57 3/4 rat, 235, 3spd 66 C-10 Panel, SWB. 350 from '68, 200R4 tranny, 3.07 rear ratio, restoring 68 C10 LWB 350 4spd, 4.56 rear dump runner 82 Camaro, 305, THM-200-R4 84 Monte Carlo 305 TH350, land tuna 85 Tercel SW, snow runner DISGRACED OUTLAW MEMBER OF THE DRUM BRAKE CLUB



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08-11-2002, 12:14 AM	#18
Benrs86 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Brandon, SD, USA Posts: 1,292	holy cow did you draw taht? im hardly smart enough to read it. thats awesome __________________ Brandon, SD 69 GMC 1/2 ton 2wd wide long bed with wood 3 on the tree 350 engine 4 bolt main rv cam AIM = Alphray04

08-11-2002, 12:35 AM	#19
dave's70 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: comox, british columbia Posts: 110	If anybody wants one, my truck came with an aftermarket wiperdelay switch that bolts under the dash.It's uglier than h**l so i took it out. It looks like an old cb radio! __________________ 70 C-10 350 with weind intake,eldelbrock carb,HEI,305 heads,a mild cam. also a blazer tank w/bed fill,shaved stake pockets and tailgate

08-11-2002, 12:13 PM	#20
Lippyp English Chevy Owner Join Date: May 2002 Location: Shropshire, UK/ Lot, France Posts: 1,848	1.34 inches of rain in a year? we had more than that in one hour here last week and it's supposed to be mid summer! I can't remember the last time I went out without my wipers on. Roll on winter! Would be interested in details of your new switch though. It does occasionally slow down to a drizzle! __________________ Phil '67 C10 long fleet. 350/TH350, 4 bbl Carter, K&N, Dual exhaust, loads of stuff coming soon 2001 S10 Blazer Daily Driver, bone stock 4 door 4x4 with manual transmission

11-01-2002, 04:15 PM	#21
Brad Out of the carpool lane. Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Clark Co, WA Posts: 5,672	What's the latest word on this Church??? __________________ 1968 C-10 SWB, 5.7 Vortec/700R4/3.73 posi, Torch Red 1968 Camaro, 250/Powerglide, all original (No, I'm not gonna drop a 350 in it!...Jeez!) 2000 Honda VFR in the faster yellow! 2008 Husqvarna TE-610 1967 C-10 SWB 'Six Appeal'-Gone but not forgotten...

11-01-2002, 04:56 PM	#22
barn9 Half a bubble off! Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Winfield, Ks, USA Posts: 5,588	I like Zkast's line of thinking. Setting speed and delay with an original knob in the original location would be great with me. But don't stop Church, either solution would be appreciated by many of us, I'm sure. Both of you keep us posted, please. __________________ Just call me LB. '71 Cheyenne, 402BB, hauls blondes, brunettes, or redheads.

11-01-2002, 06:53 PM	#23
ThreeQuarter Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Texan in Iowa Posts: 2,522	Eagerly awaiting a (hidden) delay setup. __________________ Ben '68 Chevy C10 Custom LWB 327/TH400 2nd owner '16 GMC Sierra 1500 SLE Dblcab 4wd 5.3

11-01-2002, 07:54 PM	#24
Piston Account Suspended Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Olathe, KS Posts: 2,300	Dang, I dropped the ball on this one guys.. Sorry. I'll start working up a schematic for my plan this coming week. Actually I'm hoping to find a different design of wiper motor that we can use. Our trucks original design just didnt offer much speed selection. Also need it for a intermittant wiper setup. Hope to have something more by the end of next week!

11-01-2002, 09:07 PM	#25
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	I was jst thinking about this the other day when it was drizzling!

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