Remeber the "Brighter Bezel Lights-But not with LED's" thread? Now I have LED's - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

Old Yeller 1970 · 08-18-2006, 01:25 PM

Searching for brighter instrument bezel lights several months ago, I thought I was on to something with the 921 lights to replace the 194's (I actually had 168's) in the bezel. I had tried some single bulb LED's but they weren't bright enough. The 921's were very bright but Paulf and byrd convinced me I would most likley burn out my circuit board. So I decided to get some 5 bulb LED's. This is the old thread.
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=199921

Here are some comparison pics with the new LED's. The fist one has the LED's on the left and the old 168's on the right. (168 bulbs are supposed to be 50% brighter than 194's)

The next photo is whith the 5 bulb LED's on both sides.

I don't think it brightened up all that much but there seems to be less glare and by using white bulbs it changed the color to more of a blue which I like. Overall I like it better than what was in it.

67ChevyRedneck · 08-18-2006, 01:33 PM

Just curious, but did you try painted the back of the panel white too?

70rs/ss · 08-18-2006, 01:51 PM

I am always dimming my 05 to barely lit, why would you want bright lights shining in your eyes at night? If it is stone black I can drive for hours in the dark, but bright dash lights and my eyes are ready for sleepy!? Looks cool, but I like dim, just my dime (inflation!)

Old Yeller 1970 · 08-18-2006, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 67ChevyRedneck

Just curious, but did you try painted the back of the panel white too?

Not yet. We discussed that in the other thread. I just tossed the lights in this morning to see how it looked. I like the color so I'm probably going to leave it as is for the time being and drive with it and see how I like it.

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Originally Posted by 70rs/ss

I am always dimming my 05 to barely lit, why would you want bright lights shining in your eyes at night? If it is stone black I can drive for hours in the dark, but bright dash lights and my eyes are ready for sleepy!? Looks cool, but I like dim, just my dime (inflation!)

So, 2 cents worth costs a dime now.

I guess I want my lights to match the intensity of my Autometer Tach and I want them to be about the same as my other vehicles.

70rs/ss · 08-18-2006, 03:04 PM

I live up on the rez and rarely drive at night, have even considered getting out of the hotrod game since theres no one to race at the stoplight.....wait there's no d@mn stoplights up here either!? I have a K5 and I might buy the bottom half of GQ to built another nicer 4X4. I understand trying to match intensity, just remember to wire all together through the dimmer switch as it will be nice to chill them out once they are equal. Yeah, .02 cents cost a dime and if it goes the way of gas, we won't be able to afford to speak!!

LUV2XCLR8 · 08-18-2006, 05:07 PM

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet, LED bulb part # ?

Old Yeller 1970 · 08-18-2006, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by LUV2XCLR8

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet, LED bulb part # ?

The bulbs are direct replacements for the wedge shaped 194's that originally came in our trucks. I bought mine here.
http://stores.ebay.com/warden-jp2002
They are usually listed as 161, 168, 194 bulbs.

1LoC10 · 08-18-2006, 06:56 PM

cool, same ones I got

byrd · 08-18-2006, 07:21 PM

BIG improvment!! Looks nice, won't burn the PCB either!!!

Old Yeller 1970 · 08-18-2006, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 1LoC10

cool, same ones I got

Yep, thanks for the lead on the old thread.

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Originally Posted by byrd

BIG improvment!! Looks nice, won't burn the PCB either!!!

I thought you would be pleased.

GMC Jim · 08-18-2006, 09:06 PM

Here is some lamp info:

Lamp No.......Bulb........Base........Amps............Candle Power

161.............T3 1/4...Wedge........ .19 ................ 1
194............. " " .... " " .......... .27 ................ 2
168 ............ " " .... " " .......... .35 ................ 3
175 ............ " " .... " " .......... .58 ................ 5

906 ........... T5 ........ " " .......... .69 ............... 6
912 ........... T5 ........ " " ..........1.00 .............. 12
921 ............T5 ........ " " ..........1.40 ...............21

Note that the 168 lamp is 1/3 brighter than the 194; also the 906, 912, 921 are wedge type lamps...the bulb size is larger than the others listed. This information from Philips Lighting............... Jim

HeavyD · 08-19-2006, 02:26 AM

So would using the "175" bulbs work with no problems? I can't recall seeing a 175 in the store, but never really looked for that # either.

dirtball · 08-19-2006, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Yeller 1970

The bulbs are direct replacements for the wedge shaped 194's that originally came in our trucks. I bought mine here.
http://stores.ebay.com/warden-jp2002
They are usually listed as 161, 168, 194 bulbs.

So which bulbs did you use? I looked at the ebay link and there are too many for me to choose from. I am new to this bulb thing and a little more confused than normal. Brett

Old Yeller 1970 · 08-19-2006, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by dirtball

So which bulbs did you use?

Here you go. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2pcs-...4158QQtcZphoto

Old Yeller 1970 · 08-19-2006, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by HeavyD

So would using the "175" bulbs work with no problems? I can't recall seeing a 175 in the store, but never really looked for that # either.

I'm going to let byrd field this question. He knows a lot more about this than I do.

byrd · 08-19-2006, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by HeavyD

So would using the "175" bulbs work with no problems? I can't recall seeing a 175 in the store, but never really looked for that # either.

I'm not sure ont the 175, no experience with them but you would be increasing the overall current draw over 2 times what it is now, not to mention the extra heat and strain on your already old wiring harness and PCB.Not sure what they cost either,but my guess would be at least $1.50/bulb. The LED bulbs when purchased off the site listed on ebay will cost less than $15 shipped, (you only need 4 bulbs for the duty lighting)and use less power too!!.I get all my bulbs from www.superbrightleds.com The best part of LED bulbs is you will most likley NEVER have to replace them as their life span is around 10000 hrs, and the incandescent bulbs like the 194,168,921 will only last on average 1500 hrs. Now I'm sure there will be nay sayers,but I will swear by the LED's,no heat, better lighting,last forever, how can you go wrong? Just my .02 Randy

GMC Jim · 08-20-2006, 03:08 AM

I checked with Schuck's, Auto Zone and Baxter in this area. Even tho the Philips and Sylvania catalogs list the 175; they are not able to order them. NAPA outlets in this area do cary the #175 lamp at $1.99 each. Specs on this lamp:- current draw- .58 amp; light output 5 candlepower; rated average life 1000 hours.

dirtball · 08-20-2006, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Yeller 1970

Here you go. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2pcs-...4158QQtcZphoto

Thanks Old Yeller

Longhorn Man · 08-20-2006, 10:47 PM

LED is the way to go.

08-18-2006, 01:33 PM	#2
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08-18-2006, 01:51 PM	#3
70rs/ss Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Northern AZ Posts: 7,271	Re: Remeber the "Brighter Bezel Lights-But not with LED's" thread? Now I have LED's I am always dimming my 05 to barely lit, why would you want bright lights shining in your eyes at night? If it is stone black I can drive for hours in the dark, but bright dash lights and my eyes are ready for sleepy!? Looks cool, but I like dim, just my dime (inflation!)

08-18-2006, 03:04 PM	#5
70rs/ss Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Northern AZ Posts: 7,271	Re: Remeber the "Brighter Bezel Lights-But not with LED's" thread? Now I have LED's I live up on the rez and rarely drive at night, have even considered getting out of the hotrod game since theres no one to race at the stoplight.....wait there's no d@mn stoplights up here either!? I have a K5 and I might buy the bottom half of GQ to built another nicer 4X4. I understand trying to match intensity, just remember to wire all together through the dimmer switch as it will be nice to chill them out once they are equal. Yeah, .02 cents cost a dime and if it goes the way of gas, we won't be able to afford to speak!!

08-18-2006, 05:07 PM	#6
LUV2XCLR8 The LuvShack Garage Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Maple Grove, TN (West Side) Posts: 30,476	Re: Remeber the "Brighter Bezel Lights-But not with LED's" thread? Now I have LED's Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet, LED bulb part # ? __________________ Owner/Op: "TN Classic Transport Carriers" The Toy: "Square Vette" 72 Hybrid Blazer Toy Barn: "LuvShack" 40 x 60 x 20 Shop Tow Piggy:"Maddy" 88 Silverado 3500 Hauler: "Feathers" 14 Aluma 8218T

08-18-2006, 06:56 PM	#8
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08-18-2006, 01:25 PM	#1
Old Yeller 1970 DON'T TREAD ON ME Join Date: May 2005 Location: Crosby County, TX Posts: 989	Remeber the "Brighter Bezel Lights-But not with LED's" thread? Now I have LED's Searching for brighter instrument bezel lights several months ago, I thought I was on to something with the 921 lights to replace the 194's (I actually had 168's) in the bezel. I had tried some single bulb LED's but they weren't bright enough. The 921's were very bright but Paulf and byrd convinced me I would most likley burn out my circuit board. So I decided to get some 5 bulb LED's. This is the old thread. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=199921 Here are some comparison pics with the new LED's. The fist one has the LED's on the left and the old 168's on the right. (168 bulbs are supposed to be 50% brighter than 194's) The next photo is whith the 5 bulb LED's on both sides. I don't think it brightened up all that much but there seems to be less glare and by using white bulbs it changed the color to more of a blue which I like. Overall I like it better than what was in it. Attached Images __________________ Old Yeller

08-18-2006, 09:06 PM	#11
GMC Jim Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 901	Re: Remeber the "Brighter Bezel Lights-But not with LED's" thread? Now I have LED's Here is some lamp info: Lamp No.......Bulb........Base........Amps............Candle Power 161.............T3 1/4...Wedge........ .19 ................ 1 194............. " " .... " " .......... .27 ................ 2 168 ............ " " .... " " .......... .35 ................ 3 175 ............ " " .... " " .......... .58 ................ 5 906 ........... T5 ........ " " .......... .69 ............... 6 912 ........... T5 ........ " " ..........1.00 .............. 12 921 ............T5 ........ " " ..........1.40 ...............21 Note that the 168 lamp is 1/3 brighter than the 194; also the 906, 912, 921 are wedge type lamps...the bulb size is larger than the others listed. This information from Philips Lighting............... Jim __________________ '71 GMC;fleetside;PB/PS/AC/CC/402 Eng./Custom Paint/110,000act miles/3 fuel tanks(52gal).

08-19-2006, 02:26 AM	#12
HeavyD Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Wakaw, Sask, Canada Posts: 3,179	Re: Remeber the "Brighter Bezel Lights-But not with LED's" thread? Now I have LED's So would using the "175" bulbs work with no problems? I can't recall seeing a 175 in the store, but never really looked for that # either. __________________ "You can take the man out of PA, but you can't take PA out of the man"

08-20-2006, 03:08 AM	#17
GMC Jim Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 901	Re: Remeber the "Brighter Bezel Lights-But not with LED's" thread? Now I have LED's I checked with Schuck's, Auto Zone and Baxter in this area. Even tho the Philips and Sylvania catalogs list the 175; they are not able to order them. NAPA outlets in this area do cary the #175 lamp at $1.99 each. Specs on this lamp:- current draw- .58 amp; light output 5 candlepower; rated average life 1000 hours. __________________ '71 GMC;fleetside;PB/PS/AC/CC/402 Eng./Custom Paint/110,000act miles/3 fuel tanks(52gal).

08-20-2006, 10:47 PM	#19
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Remeber the "Brighter Bezel Lights-But not with LED's" thread? Now I have LED's LED is the way to go.



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