How do you authenticate a Short Bed truck - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

Drive-In 4x4 · 09-07-2006, 05:14 PM

I've been looking for a short bed truck for sometime now...The ones here in my area were all born long beds. I've been looking on E-Bay for a 71-72 Super Cheyenne Short Bed and all of them claim to be original. Well I would like a little more proof. Since I can't be there to look underneath I would like to know of others ways to authenticate the short bed (fleetside) option from a want to be. I know there is a placard around the drivers door striker that shows weight/capacities. Could someone tell me what it should read if it was an original (fleetside) short bed? I'm guessing but some of those weren't fleetside in the beginning either so would it read the same as a stepside truck? The sticker in the glove box tells you vin number and all the options. Is there anything about the kind of bed on there? I noticed model number in one of the pictures on E-Bay is there anything within that number that might indicate bed style? I wish I could've checked out the truck I'm speaking of on E-Bay I'm pretty sure it was the real deal. It was a Super Cheyenne short bed 4x4 in unmolested condition. It looked to be a little rusty in the worst spots to have rust. Still though I would've liked to look at it but it was to far away. I'm trying to stay in th Colorado to Illinois Texas to Nebraska area...However I'm starting to think most of these were not sold in this area. The ones sold here were sold to farmers for work trucks. Maybe a few sporty models were sold but I'm guessing most were purchased with work in mind, not play. This is my first question on here as a newby and I NEED to know. Thanks

C10-Driver · 09-07-2006, 05:24 PM

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/Chevyear.html

Longhorn Man · 09-07-2006, 06:12 PM

follow the above link, the model number will give you the info you are looking for.

72Levi · 09-07-2006, 06:27 PM

I had the same issues/questions, in fact two trucks I went to go see had a cut/shortened frame and it was a done very poorly. Be careful and good luck. Check the SPID label, VIN, and be careful with the SPID label sheets, many people try to re-type the label to authenticate a SWB. You can buy a SPID label on eBay for $5.00.

**71blksuper4x4** · 09-07-2006, 06:39 PM

They are around... I found my Cheyenne Super 4x4 swb in Topeka. Took me awhile to find what I wanted, but did find it after sometime. Fixed her up my senior year of high school.... just about ready to rejuvenate the old girl again with a Rust Free Texas bed, a pretty solid cab, and lift her just a shade higher to put on some 37" Goodyear MTR's. Can't wait to tackle it. Good luck with the search.... that's half of the fun. Trevor

qksilver · 09-07-2006, 08:52 PM

A lot of SWB trucks around here............they are either not for sale, thought of as gold with prices to match or rusted badly(sheet metal and frames). I have come across lots of SWB frames and VIN Plates though

nandress · 09-08-2006, 01:10 AM

My advice...

Unless you are absolutely sure the cab has not been off the frame, once you have verified the model from the VIN, compare the VIN on the plate in the cab to last few digits of the VIN stamped on the frame (driver's side top just behind the engine). There is another stamping a little farther back, but I can't recall off the top of my head where.

**special-K** · 09-08-2006, 05:40 AM

The model# is where the wheelbase is listed as well as Fleetside or Stepside.It`s all in the link provided up near the top.

Drive-In 4x4 · 09-13-2006, 06:59 PM

Sorry it took me so long to get back I've been working overtime and when I try to get on here I barely get through my e-mail and then ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Ooops sorry did it again. Anyway this is great I can finally tell the difference. I almost bought one that looks just like 71blksuper4x4's truck. I can't remember the year but it was at the Sunflower swapmeet in Wichita Kansas. If I hadn't of had that lay off notice in my hand I would've bought it. Turned out that I didn't get layed off for like another year. I should've bought it and if I would've needed to sold it. That's what I'm going to do from now on. Instantly at the very moment of that decision all opportunities dried up

1LoC10 · 09-13-2006, 07:37 PM

the sticker in my glove box, says 115 in the wheel base section

Drive-In 4x4 · 09-13-2006, 08:08 PM

71blksuper4x4 whats your trucks model number I want to check it against the above link. I looked at the link but must not understand all that I see. The forth digit is what determines length of bed correct? Why so many options isn't there only shortbed, longbed, and Crewcab long and short? Forgive me I'm new to this

Drive-In 4x4 · 09-14-2006, 05:50 PM

TTT can anyone help with my next to last reply?

**71blksuper4x4** · 09-14-2006, 11:16 PM

I am going back home to my hometown... I will go check the vin for you ..... I will give you my vin to help you out. Sorry about not seein your post. Trevor

Drive-In 4x4 · 09-16-2006, 06:16 PM

Thanks....I think it's the Model number though from what I read, but then I might be wrong. If nothing else can you go through it with me so that I understand what part identifies bed length. THANKS.

09-07-2006, 05:14 PM	#1
Drive-In 4x4 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Augusta Kansas Posts: 23	How do you authenticate a Short Bed truck I've been looking for a short bed truck for sometime now...The ones here in my area were all born long beds. I've been looking on E-Bay for a 71-72 Super Cheyenne Short Bed and all of them claim to be original. Well I would like a little more proof. Since I can't be there to look underneath I would like to know of others ways to authenticate the short bed (fleetside) option from a want to be. I know there is a placard around the drivers door striker that shows weight/capacities. Could someone tell me what it should read if it was an original (fleetside) short bed? I'm guessing but some of those weren't fleetside in the beginning either so would it read the same as a stepside truck? The sticker in the glove box tells you vin number and all the options. Is there anything about the kind of bed on there? I noticed model number in one of the pictures on E-Bay is there anything within that number that might indicate bed style? I wish I could've checked out the truck I'm speaking of on E-Bay I'm pretty sure it was the real deal. It was a Super Cheyenne short bed 4x4 in unmolested condition. It looked to be a little rusty in the worst spots to have rust. Still though I would've liked to look at it but it was to far away. I'm trying to stay in th Colorado to Illinois Texas to Nebraska area...However I'm starting to think most of these were not sold in this area. The ones sold here were sold to farmers for work trucks. Maybe a few sporty models were sold but I'm guessing most were purchased with work in mind, not play. This is my first question on here as a newby and I NEED to know. Thanks

09-07-2006, 05:24 PM	#2
C10-Driver Chevy Truck Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kelowna, BC Posts: 1,176	Re: How do you authenticate a Short Bed truck http://67-72chevytrucks.com/Chevyear.html __________________ . 1970 Chev C/10 SWB, 355 SBC, 700R4, 3.73 Posi, Air Ride (Click to view Build Thread) (SOLD) 1978 Chevy C/10 SWB 1970 Pontiac Lemans .

09-07-2006, 06:12 PM	#3
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: How do you authenticate a Short Bed truck follow the above link, the model number will give you the info you are looking for.

09-07-2006, 06:27 PM	#4
72Levi Active Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: sa tx Posts: 851	Re: How do you authenticate a Short Bed truck I had the same issues/questions, in fact two trucks I went to go see had a cut/shortened frame and it was a done very poorly. Be careful and good luck. Check the SPID label, VIN, and be careful with the SPID label sheets, many people try to re-type the label to authenticate a SWB. You can buy a SPID label on eBay for $5.00. __________________ 1972 K5 Blazer ALL ORIGINAL paint & engine, A/C, Tilt, 4sp, AM/FM, Tow Hooks, Aux Battery Tray, Tach, Vacuum 2004 FORD FX4 SuperCrew 2005 CTS-V 12 sec family car 2008 Buick Enclave AWD, Nav, & DVD, Wife LOVES it!

09-07-2006, 06:39 PM	#5
71blksuper4x4 SWB 4x4 Collector Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Osage City, KS Posts: 5,156	Re: How do you authenticate a Short Bed truck They are around... I found my Cheyenne Super 4x4 swb in Topeka. Took me awhile to find what I wanted, but did find it after sometime. Fixed her up my senior year of high school.... just about ready to rejuvenate the old girl again with a Rust Free Texas bed, a pretty solid cab, and lift her just a shade higher to put on some 37" Goodyear MTR's. Can't wait to tackle it. Good luck with the search.... that's half of the fun. Trevor Attached Images __________________ TREVOR 1970 CST swb 4x4 (speedwarning,cruise,tilt,tach,8track, original red shoulder belts,tow hooks) 1972 Jimmy (soon to be Hickey cloned) 1971 Cheyenne Super 4x4 swb (tilt,tach,buckets, original blue shoulder belts,am/fm,cruise,tow hooks, dealer 8 track) 1972 Cheyenne Super K20 4x4 Custom Camper (tilt, tach, am/fm, tow hooks, bed toolbox, aux gas tank 1972 Cheyenne Super Crew Cab K30 4x4 Duramax, Allison, np205, buckets, tow hooks (CURRENT PROJECT) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=624819 1989 V3500 Crew Cab (454tbi, NV4500, np205) 1970 Chevelle SS (LS5 454,th400,8track,buckets,tach) :2004 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon (daily driver) WTB: 1968-70 Cruise Control Lever

09-07-2006, 08:52 PM	#6
qksilver Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern Pines NC Posts: 3,853	Re: How do you authenticate a Short Bed truck A lot of SWB trucks around here............they are either not for sale, thought of as gold with prices to match or rusted badly(sheet metal and frames). I have come across lots of SWB frames and VIN Plates though

09-08-2006, 01:10 AM	#7
nandress Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Nevada Posts: 211	Re: How do you authenticate a Short Bed truck My advice... Unless you are absolutely sure the cab has not been off the frame, once you have verified the model from the VIN, compare the VIN on the plate in the cab to last few digits of the VIN stamped on the frame (driver's side top just behind the engine). There is another stamping a little farther back, but I can't recall off the top of my head where.

09-08-2006, 05:40 AM	#8
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: How do you authenticate a Short Bed truck The model# is where the wheelbase is listed as well as Fleetside or Stepside.It`s all in the link provided up near the top. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

09-13-2006, 06:59 PM	#9
Drive-In 4x4 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Augusta Kansas Posts: 23	Re: How do you authenticate a Short Bed truck Sorry it took me so long to get back I've been working overtime and when I try to get on here I barely get through my e-mail and then ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Ooops sorry did it again. Anyway this is great I can finally tell the difference. I almost bought one that looks just like 71blksuper4x4's truck. I can't remember the year but it was at the Sunflower swapmeet in Wichita Kansas. If I hadn't of had that lay off notice in my hand I would've bought it. Turned out that I didn't get layed off for like another year. I should've bought it and if I would've needed to sold it. That's what I'm going to do from now on. Instantly at the very moment of that decision all opportunities dried up Last edited by Drive-In 4x4; 09-13-2006 at 07:00 PM.

09-13-2006, 07:37 PM	#10
1LoC10 Insert Title Here Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Dyer, Indiana Posts: 5,679	Re: How do you authenticate a Short Bed truck the sticker in my glove box, says 115 in the wheel base section __________________ BOBBY _69 SWB_ 1000 pics of 67-72's>> http://s193.photobucket.com/albums/z...-72/?start=all <<

09-13-2006, 08:08 PM	#11
Drive-In 4x4 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Augusta Kansas Posts: 23	Re: How do you authenticate a Short Bed truck 71blksuper4x4 whats your trucks model number I want to check it against the above link. I looked at the link but must not understand all that I see. The forth digit is what determines length of bed correct? Why so many options isn't there only shortbed, longbed, and Crewcab long and short? Forgive me I'm new to this Last edited by Drive-In 4x4; 09-14-2006 at 05:47 PM.

09-14-2006, 05:50 PM	#12
Drive-In 4x4 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Augusta Kansas Posts: 23	Re: How do you authenticate a Short Bed truck TTT can anyone help with my next to last reply?

09-14-2006, 11:16 PM	#13
71blksuper4x4 SWB 4x4 Collector Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Osage City, KS Posts: 5,156	Re: How do you authenticate a Short Bed truck I am going back home to my hometown... I will go check the vin for you ..... I will give you my vin to help you out. Sorry about not seein your post. Trevor __________________ TREVOR 1970 CST swb 4x4 (speedwarning,cruise,tilt,tach,8track, original red shoulder belts,tow hooks) 1972 Jimmy (soon to be Hickey cloned) 1971 Cheyenne Super 4x4 swb (tilt,tach,buckets, original blue shoulder belts,am/fm,cruise,tow hooks, dealer 8 track) 1972 Cheyenne Super K20 4x4 Custom Camper (tilt, tach, am/fm, tow hooks, bed toolbox, aux gas tank 1972 Cheyenne Super Crew Cab K30 4x4 Duramax, Allison, np205, buckets, tow hooks (CURRENT PROJECT) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=624819 1989 V3500 Crew Cab (454tbi, NV4500, np205) 1970 Chevelle SS (LS5 454,th400,8track,buckets,tach) :2004 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon (daily driver) WTB: 1968-70 Cruise Control Lever

09-16-2006, 06:16 PM	#14
Drive-In 4x4 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Augusta Kansas Posts: 23	Re: How do you authenticate a Short Bed truck Thanks....I think it's the Model number though from what I read, but then I might be wrong. If nothing else can you go through it with me so that I understand what part identifies bed length. THANKS.



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