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HvyChevy454 · 08-12-2002, 09:55 PM

Got my new Sport Truck Magazine and my new Classic Trucks(congrats Big Orange) well in my new Sport Trucks in the front thay have a right in about GM is gonna produce an SS Silverado, w/ the 6L Vortec V8, all wheel drive,suspension, ground effects, and rollin on dubbs! Rated @ 345 Hp 380 ftlbs. Finally Mr. Lutz is stirrin things up and makin them engineers make soemthing that get up and go other than the vette! Only bad thing is later on in that mag it mentioned that the 2005 Lighting is supposed to be upgraded to twin turbos.

**smitty62** · 08-12-2002, 10:01 PM

May be your cup of tea-not mine. Sounds like another Avalanche to me--what a P.O.S. !

HvyChevy454 · 08-12-2002, 10:06 PM

ill admit its not the greatest thing to hit the road but it appears to be a start in the right direction for GM to catch back up on the street performance market that it used to dominate

Super Chevy · 08-12-2002, 10:18 PM

Its a Start,

But the power isnt there, if they want to compete with the lightning it needs a good 375hp, the 8.1 litre 496 would have done the job with a supercharger. The AWD will help im sure too...

My .02

sakohntr · 08-12-2002, 10:19 PM

It seems to me that GM quit making trucks back in 88 when they removed the solid front axle. Remember when you could custom order a truck item per item. The yuppie engineers they have now have probably never even sat in a 67-72 vintage truck. Technology is a wonderful thing when it works and when you dont need to take a second mortgage out to afford it!

*Shane* · 08-12-2002, 10:23 PM

this post might be of interest.....this truck was discussed a few weeks back.....

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...threadid=18643

**ThreeQuarter** · 08-12-2002, 10:25 PM

LOL -- There was recently a thread saying exactly the opposite about this truck.

Thread #18643

I'm too slow for Shane...

Longhorn Man · 08-12-2002, 10:27 PM

And it is still butt ugly.
Gremlins could be ordered with a small block and a 4 speed, but they still looked so bad that no one wanted one.

68 Suburban · 08-12-2002, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Gremlins could be ordered with a small block and a 4 speed, but they still looked so bad that no one wanted one.

I still want one!!!!

This thing looks like a Chevy Escalade.

HvyChevy454 · 08-12-2002, 10:35 PM

im still pretty sure i read somewhere that the 8.1 was gonna be offered in the Avalanche as an option, then caddy might produce the v12 in the Cien for the Gm light duty truck line up

Longhorn Man · 08-12-2002, 10:41 PM

D@mn Chris...I thought I was the only one sick enough to like Gremlins...

colohusker · 08-12-2002, 10:45 PM

Hey now! Gremlins were cool, especially if yours had a small block! I had one in HS until that tree jumped in front of me. Used to love dusting all the wannabes in their mustang 2's and camaros! That car was a blast to drive as long as you didn't turn corners!

**smitty62** · 08-12-2002, 10:48 PM

Let's face it, we all know what market both F__d and Gm is going for,and it's not guys like us. They won't be satisfied until all trucks look like grocery carts and all cars look like t--ds going down the road backwards at 20 mph. The Libs and the treehuggers want all the SUVs junked and instead of letting us drill for more oil they want to stop ALL smokestack industry. All our grandchildren will get to work at Burger King instead of learning a trade. And of course, by that time we'll all be rich from sueing Mikidees for making us too fat, and NO ONE will accept any responsibility for their own actions. But the Snakedarters will be thriving!! Great world to look forward to. So long--I'm going to shoot myself before they take my gun.

Bamm · 08-12-2002, 10:48 PM

I said it before and I'll say it again, if I was buying a new truck today, you would be looking at a new lightning owner. Way faster, way better looking, and probably a little cheaper. Again, GM thinks it can throw a S/S badge on anything and it will be a classic. To me the GM stopped making real S/S cars in '72. Ford has an affordable muscle car with the mustang, that for just a little money and a few bolt on items can run in the high 11's, Chevrolet has what? The vette? who can afford one? Stopped making the Camaro, ????? what bone head made that decision. I would rather spend 10-12,000 on a 67-72 that is fully restored, than $30-32,000 on a 2002 that will be worth 10-12,000 in about 5 years. At least you can work on the old stuff without having to replace $250 trinket parts w/$100 worth of labor and a $75 diagnostic check fee.........JB

HvyChevy454 · 08-12-2002, 10:51 PM

for what it would cost for the vette you could make that truck faster

*racedvl* · 08-12-2002, 10:52 PM

I saw one of those today at a gas station, it was red and had Z71 on the back of the bed.

Snowbound · 08-12-2002, 11:02 PM

That thing is FUGLY! And the Avalanche goes right with it. Seems like everything GM is putting out has 500 pounds of plastic moulding draped all over it and squared off stealth fighter looking headlights. Whatever happened to subtle body lines?

I'll take a plain 'ol 2002 Silverado shortbox and throw a supercharger on it and still be thousands ahead.

Brian

barn9 · 08-12-2002, 11:04 PM

Oh boy, an opportunity to vent! Whomever at GM is responsible for ever allowing the Avalanche and Aztek to be produced should be horse-whipped! City-boy faggot-rides!! I cannot imagine what kind of brain-trust came up with the idea of taking out the back glass, folding down the remaining back (or whatever), and then driving down a good ol' country road without having the cab immediately fill with swirling dust. Maybe I've missed something here, but that is the most laughable idea that I can remember coming out of Detroit since the Edsel. And besides that, both of those vehicles are just plain fugly!

HvyChevy454 · 08-12-2002, 11:09 PM

this pastic trend is just stupid, all late model vehicles are like this. the only thing i dislike about my girlfriends 94 Tran am is that is filled w/ plastic. If i want a to drive around in plastic car i'll go ahead and bust out my old PowerWheels Bigfoot.

**smitty62** · 08-12-2002, 11:16 PM

If you wanna know where GM truck stylists moonlight go to a Radio Shack and look at the R/C tanks and trucks--maybe Avalanches have an optional R/C antenna?

*big71* · 08-12-2002, 11:37 PM

i have all ways been a big bow tie fan i mean i would rather walk then drive a ford but my shop owner bought a new 2002 harley dad. ford crew cab with the surpercharger it is a bad ass truck if i had to buy a new truck today it would be the harley truck and that is bad because i love bowtie and i used to hate fords chevy need to come back with a new 454 ss and make it kick ass and put a 72 grill in it and put in the weeds low and mean and 20s on it later ya

Dropt72Shortbed · 08-12-2002, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Snowbound

I'll take a plain 'ol 2002 Silverado shortbox and throw a supercharger on it and still be thousands ahead.

Brian

no kidding. lets see, ext cab 6.0 awd with all that extra weight and 345hp or you can go buy a 2002 silverado 1500 shortbed with the 5.3 at 285 hp which probably almost weighs a full 1000lbs less, i bet theyre the same speed.

the shortbeds with 5.3s run low to mid 15s stock i hear, throw on an intake, exhuast and perf computer reprogrammer and your probably almost into the 14s for $800.

dmnall · 08-13-2002, 02:32 AM

What really blows about that truck is the fact that GM lowered the HP. I have been eagerly awaiting to see the Silverado SS but now, my 68 can still probably beat that thing in a Race!! The only thing that truck has going for it is that it has Overdrive where my 68 Does not!!

Here is what originally the Silverado SS was supposed to have:

1. 6 Litre V8 w/ 485 HP and 485 Ft Lbs of Torque
2. 6 Speed Corvette Tranny
3. All Wheel Independant Suspension

with most of the same specs as it is now! But it was supposed to be a High HP Truck !!

RainDog · 08-13-2002, 03:22 AM

Somebody should forward this whole thread to GM, just for kicks, not that they'd give a rat's behind

Low68 · 08-13-2002, 04:13 AM

Man I love my truck!

08-12-2002, 10:01 PM	#2
smitty62 Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,234	May be your cup of tea-not mine. Sounds like another Avalanche to me--what a P.O.S. ! __________________ Stepsides look like real trucks! Smitty

08-12-2002, 10:06 PM	#3
HvyChevy454 Slowly getting CRSS... Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lutz, Florida Posts: 656	ill admit its not the greatest thing to hit the road but it appears to be a start in the right direction for GM to catch back up on the street performance market that it used to dominate __________________ -Nic Lutz, Fl My Team Website The Heavy Chevy Website ------------------ 72 Cheyenne 10 LWB GM 12-bolt 3.08 w/ Auburn Posi 91 454 Edel Performer RPM Intake 750 cfm carb Comp Cam 268/.495 Hedman Headers Dual 3'' Exhaust 71 Cheyenne 20 4x4 Fact. A/C PS PB Tilt Currently in the works... Speak Softly and Carry A Big Block... There is No replacement for Displacement... "If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough." - Mario Andretti

08-12-2002, 10:19 PM	#5
sakohntr Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Floodwood Minnesota Posts: 1,057	late model gm It seems to me that GM quit making trucks back in 88 when they removed the solid front axle. Remember when you could custom order a truck item per item. The yuppie engineers they have now have probably never even sat in a 67-72 vintage truck. Technology is a wonderful thing when it works and when you dont need to take a second mortgage out to afford it! __________________ 1967 K30 Napco 292/SM420 original paint 30k miles 1968 K60 Napco 396/5spd. dbl frame 52" michelins 1969 K10 SWB GMC 454/4spd 6" 35's posi,hooks 1972 C30 longhorn,BB/AT,A/C,Tilt,Toolbox,lokr 1987 K20 Chevrolet Suburban. 6" lift. 5.7L/TH400 1979 K60 GMC Coleman 4x4, 427/Allison.

08-12-2002, 10:25 PM	#7
ThreeQuarter Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Texan in Iowa Posts: 2,522	LOL -- There was recently a thread saying exactly the opposite about this truck. Thread #18643 I'm too slow for Shane... __________________ Ben '68 Chevy C10 Custom LWB 327/TH400 2nd owner '16 GMC Sierra 1500 SLE Dblcab 4wd 5.3

08-12-2002, 10:35 PM	#10
HvyChevy454 Slowly getting CRSS... Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lutz, Florida Posts: 656	im still pretty sure i read somewhere that the 8.1 was gonna be offered in the Avalanche as an option, then caddy might produce the v12 in the Cien for the Gm light duty truck line up __________________ -Nic Lutz, Fl My Team Website The Heavy Chevy Website ------------------ 72 Cheyenne 10 LWB GM 12-bolt 3.08 w/ Auburn Posi 91 454 Edel Performer RPM Intake 750 cfm carb Comp Cam 268/.495 Hedman Headers Dual 3'' Exhaust 71 Cheyenne 20 4x4 Fact. A/C PS PB Tilt Currently in the works... Speak Softly and Carry A Big Block... There is No replacement for Displacement... "If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough." - Mario Andretti

08-12-2002, 09:55 PM	#1
HvyChevy454 Slowly getting CRSS... Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lutz, Florida Posts: 656	Finally GM is doing something right! Got my new Sport Truck Magazine and my new Classic Trucks(congrats Big Orange) well in my new Sport Trucks in the front thay have a right in about GM is gonna produce an SS Silverado, w/ the 6L Vortec V8, all wheel drive,suspension, ground effects, and rollin on dubbs! Rated @ 345 Hp 380 ftlbs. Finally Mr. Lutz is stirrin things up and makin them engineers make soemthing that get up and go other than the vette! Only bad thing is later on in that mag it mentioned that the 2005 Lighting is supposed to be upgraded to twin turbos. __________________ -Nic Lutz, Fl My Team Website The Heavy Chevy Website ------------------ 72 Cheyenne 10 LWB GM 12-bolt 3.08 w/ Auburn Posi 91 454 Edel Performer RPM Intake 750 cfm carb Comp Cam 268/.495 Hedman Headers Dual 3'' Exhaust 71 Cheyenne 20 4x4 Fact. A/C PS PB Tilt Currently in the works... Speak Softly and Carry A Big Block... There is No replacement for Displacement... "If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough." - Mario Andretti

08-12-2002, 10:18 PM	#4
Super Chevy Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,025	Its a Start, But the power isnt there, if they want to compete with the lightning it needs a good 375hp, the 8.1 litre 496 would have done the job with a supercharger. The AWD will help im sure too... My .02

08-12-2002, 10:23 PM	#6
Shane Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: over yonder Posts: 14,270	this post might be of interest.....this truck was discussed a few weeks back..... http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...threadid=18643

08-12-2002, 10:27 PM	#8
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	And it is still butt ugly. Gremlins could be ordered with a small block and a 4 speed, but they still looked so bad that no one wanted one.

08-12-2002, 10:41 PM	#11
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	D@mn Chris...I thought I was the only one sick enough to like Gremlins...

08-12-2002, 10:45 PM	#12
colohusker Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 436	gremlins... those were the days.. Hey now! Gremlins were cool, especially if yours had a small block! I had one in HS until that tree jumped in front of me. Used to love dusting all the wannabes in their mustang 2's and camaros! That car was a blast to drive as long as you didn't turn corners! __________________ ------------------------------------------------ I say it's only money, my wife says it's only a truck.... '71 C10 Deluxe, factory ac, ps, pb, should be done by 2102 Longmont, CO husker95@hotmail.com

08-12-2002, 10:48 PM	#13
smitty62 Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,234	Let's face it, we all know what market both F__d and Gm is going for,and it's not guys like us. They won't be satisfied until all trucks look like grocery carts and all cars look like t--ds going down the road backwards at 20 mph. The Libs and the treehuggers want all the SUVs junked and instead of letting us drill for more oil they want to stop ALL smokestack industry. All our grandchildren will get to work at Burger King instead of learning a trade. And of course, by that time we'll all be rich from sueing Mikidees for making us too fat, and NO ONE will accept any responsibility for their own actions. But the Snakedarters will be thriving!! Great world to look forward to. So long--I'm going to shoot myself before they take my gun. __________________ Stepsides look like real trucks! Smitty

08-12-2002, 10:48 PM	#14
Bamm Cowboy Fan for Life!!!!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Amelia, Virginia Posts: 2,921	I said it before and I'll say it again, if I was buying a new truck today, you would be looking at a new lightning owner. Way faster, way better looking, and probably a little cheaper. Again, GM thinks it can throw a S/S badge on anything and it will be a classic. To me the GM stopped making real S/S cars in '72. Ford has an affordable muscle car with the mustang, that for just a little money and a few bolt on items can run in the high 11's, Chevrolet has what? The vette? who can afford one? Stopped making the Camaro, ????? what bone head made that decision. I would rather spend 10-12,000 on a 67-72 that is fully restored, than $30-32,000 on a 2002 that will be worth 10-12,000 in about 5 years. At least you can work on the old stuff without having to replace $250 trinket parts w/$100 worth of labor and a $75 diagnostic check fee.........JB __________________ 1967 ShortBed Fleetside 3/4 Drop 350/700R4 Tilt wheel 18 x 8 Torque Thrust II's Future mods: All new gauges & wood bed My Zip is 23002 I ship UPS, USPS

08-12-2002, 10:51 PM	#15
HvyChevy454 Slowly getting CRSS... Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lutz, Florida Posts: 656	for what it would cost for the vette you could make that truck faster __________________ -Nic Lutz, Fl My Team Website The Heavy Chevy Website ------------------ 72 Cheyenne 10 LWB GM 12-bolt 3.08 w/ Auburn Posi 91 454 Edel Performer RPM Intake 750 cfm carb Comp Cam 268/.495 Hedman Headers Dual 3'' Exhaust 71 Cheyenne 20 4x4 Fact. A/C PS PB Tilt Currently in the works... Speak Softly and Carry A Big Block... There is No replacement for Displacement... "If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough." - Mario Andretti

08-12-2002, 10:52 PM	#16
racedvl Account Suspended Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Woodstock, IL Posts: 7,020	I saw one of those today at a gas station, it was red and had Z71 on the back of the bed.



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08-12-2002, 11:02 PM	#17
Snowbound Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Westbank, BC Posts: 402	That thing is FUGLY! And the Avalanche goes right with it. Seems like everything GM is putting out has 500 pounds of plastic moulding draped all over it and squared off stealth fighter looking headlights. Whatever happened to subtle body lines? I'll take a plain 'ol 2002 Silverado shortbox and throw a supercharger on it and still be thousands ahead. Brian __________________ 1965 Chevy Short Box Stepside, 230 - 3 speed, 4:11 gears, original paint rust free survivor. Now sporting a 383 SBC and TKO-600

08-12-2002, 11:04 PM	#18
barn9 Half a bubble off! Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Winfield, Ks, USA Posts: 5,588	Oh boy, an opportunity to vent! Whomever at GM is responsible for ever allowing the Avalanche and Aztek to be produced should be horse-whipped! City-boy faggot-rides!! I cannot imagine what kind of brain-trust came up with the idea of taking out the back glass, folding down the remaining back (or whatever), and then driving down a good ol' country road without having the cab immediately fill with swirling dust. Maybe I've missed something here, but that is the most laughable idea that I can remember coming out of Detroit since the Edsel. And besides that, both of those vehicles are just plain fugly! __________________ Just call me LB. '71 Cheyenne, 402BB, hauls blondes, brunettes, or redheads.

08-12-2002, 11:09 PM	#19
HvyChevy454 Slowly getting CRSS... Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lutz, Florida Posts: 656	this pastic trend is just stupid, all late model vehicles are like this. the only thing i dislike about my girlfriends 94 Tran am is that is filled w/ plastic. If i want a to drive around in plastic car i'll go ahead and bust out my old PowerWheels Bigfoot. __________________ -Nic Lutz, Fl My Team Website The Heavy Chevy Website ------------------ 72 Cheyenne 10 LWB GM 12-bolt 3.08 w/ Auburn Posi 91 454 Edel Performer RPM Intake 750 cfm carb Comp Cam 268/.495 Hedman Headers Dual 3'' Exhaust 71 Cheyenne 20 4x4 Fact. A/C PS PB Tilt Currently in the works... Speak Softly and Carry A Big Block... There is No replacement for Displacement... "If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough." - Mario Andretti

08-12-2002, 11:16 PM	#20
smitty62 Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,234	If you wanna know where GM truck stylists moonlight go to a Radio Shack and look at the R/C tanks and trucks--maybe Avalanches have an optional R/C antenna? __________________ Stepsides look like real trucks! Smitty

08-12-2002, 11:37 PM	#21
big71 Account Suspended Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: JONESVILL NC Posts: 1,303	i have all ways been a big bow tie fan i mean i would rather walk then drive a ford but my shop owner bought a new 2002 harley dad. ford crew cab with the surpercharger it is a bad ass truck if i had to buy a new truck today it would be the harley truck and that is bad because i love bowtie and i used to hate fords chevy need to come back with a new 454 ss and make it kick ass and put a 72 grill in it and put in the weeds low and mean and 20s on it later ya

08-13-2002, 02:32 AM	#23
dmnall Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Goleta, CA Posts: 505	What really blows about that truck is the fact that GM lowered the HP. I have been eagerly awaiting to see the Silverado SS but now, my 68 can still probably beat that thing in a Race!! The only thing that truck has going for it is that it has Overdrive where my 68 Does not!! Here is what originally the Silverado SS was supposed to have: 1. 6 Litre V8 w/ 485 HP and 485 Ft Lbs of Torque 2. 6 Speed Corvette Tranny 3. All Wheel Independant Suspension with most of the same specs as it is now! But it was supposed to be a High HP Truck !! __________________ 1968 C10 Truck LWB Fleetside 1968 C10 Truck SWB Stepside 1994 K2500 Ext Cab Fleetside 2008 Honda Civic Si lease

08-13-2002, 03:22 AM	#24
RainDog Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Burien, WA, USA Posts: 391	Somebody should forward this whole thread to GM, just for kicks, not that they'd give a rat's behind __________________ "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."

08-13-2002, 04:13 AM	#25
Low68 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Arizona Posts: 758	Man I love my truck! __________________ Build Thread

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