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04-20-2002, 09:41 PM
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how much(junkyard cadillac)??
today in the repairable lot of the local junkyard i saw a 66ish Cadillac Coupe Deville 2dr hardtop. it looks really nice from what i saw. if it has been wrecked it is light and all in the very back. do any of you know any about these?? i did some research and the standard engine in them was a 429. man it is a cool lookin car. any advice about what its worth or what to look for on it?? thanks,Ben
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04-20-2002, 09:47 PM
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I think that is a 479 ci engine.They have a ton of torque and for performance they are capable of 12's, but require some major$$$ to get there.
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04-20-2002, 10:15 PM
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Offer them $100 and go from there. Dont use words like "maybe" on your offer, and be firm.
Good luck  .------------------ Lucas "Another proud owner of one of the coolest trucks ever built" drop_shift@hotmail.com My Daily-Driver: '72 Chevy LWB Custom/10. Rebuilt 350, 300 HP thanks to a few go-fast goodies. Ochre with a white top. Future plans include TBI fuel injection, a 700R4 tranny, and possibly some 3.73 rear gears.
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04-20-2002, 10:21 PM
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I had a 67 convertible when I was in college in the late 80s. Wish I still did. It was a monster. You've never seen a trunk that big.
I remember the exhaust being weird and difficult ($$$) to have fixed. Tires were tough too. Outside of that I think all I ever replaced was a broken motor mount. Parts were plentiful. Mine had very little rust on the body itself, but the front bumpers were rusted about through when I got it. It was tough to find a replacement. Perhaps this is the same type flaw as rockers on our trucks.
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04-20-2002, 10:47 PM
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yeah, 479 thats what i meant, sorry. i dont know if thats what this one has, but i looked it up and that was the standard engine. i will have to stop by there monday after school. looks like a nice car, i need a daily driver to get door dings on instead of my 69. lol.
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04-20-2002, 11:38 PM
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my uncle had a 69 deville convertible, very cool cars, every option known to man. This one had a 455, and some heavy damage to the body, along with alot of bondo that was falling out from everywhere, the motor was stuck and the top was bad, sold for $125 when we had his estate auction.
------------------ Ol' Buck: '72 Chevy 1/2T 4x4 shortbox stepside 350/350auto on '84 ralleys and 31/10.5s Angel girl: 67 Cutlass convertible 330, 3spd stick Greener: 90 GMC Jimmy 350/auto Chad Stephens Orleans,NE no name yet: 72 442 under serious construction
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04-21-2002, 12:36 AM
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Thats just prime!
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post your message here: http://members.boardhost.com/BadCad/
these people know a lot about any cad. they have great advice there also.
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04-21-2002, 08:22 AM
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I believe the Cadilacs came with 472 CI. and 500 CI. motors.
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04-21-2002, 09:03 AM
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In the earlier 60s, cad ran a 390,& a 429. Later came the 472 & 500 (i think 68,but not positive on the year). The 500 first came out in the Eldo(1970?),then was later used in the Devilles. 368,425,472,&500 are of the same eng family,(cams,dist,& such interchange). 368& 425 are smoggers that came after 76....last yr of the big ones for GM in the pass car........69 longhorn
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04-21-2002, 09:12 AM
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its all about the +6 inches
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The 368 is a good doner for an aluminum single plane intake...as long as it is not the 8-6-4 version.
"68 sounds about right...maybe '67. The 500 was unsed in '75 and 76 in all the large cars if I am not mistaken. I am about to get all the big block caddy info I can get my hands on. Could be fun. ------------------ '69 G.M.C. 350/350. Trying to clean up the left over damage from the Dope-Smokin-Old-Man I've been dubbed the Longhorn Freak/Fanatic/Expert, I just hope I can live up to it. FINALLY got the HORNIAC...a '70 one ton Longhorn with a Pontiac 350/350 and lots of 'personality'. Check out The Longhorn Webite. If you need a pic posted, E-mail me at longhornmail@yahoo.com Andy, in Columbus Ohio |
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04-21-2002, 09:41 AM
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That sounds right on the yrs Longhornmail(75-76 on the big cars). The 425 is a decent engine also,but bigger is better!!! I was gonna build a 512......till the wifey found my scratch pad with parts & prices! She went APE SH*T! hehe. I have a book,BIG INCH CADILLAC,by Doc Frohmader that has a lot of tips,tricks,& build info on the Caddy engine. They are an awsome powerplant,& you gotta love the distributor clearance!.....69
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04-21-2002, 04:20 PM
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You are right 69 longhorn I had a brain fart temporary altsheimers.
[This message has been edited by guitarman (edited April 21, 2002).]
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04-22-2002, 12:58 PM
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SKINNY TIRES RULE!
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My dad has a '48 caddy with the 348 (?) flathead V8. He has a 500 out of an eldorado he wants to put into it, then add a/c, power everything, etc. Should be nice, if he ever gets around to doing it.
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04-22-2002, 01:17 PM
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I had 2 66 cadillac coupes. Both had the 429 engine. Great engine VERY EXPENSIVE to get rebuild parts for. I spent 500 on rod and main bearings for it. Here in Colorado, you would be able to get a running, good condition for around 1000k. They don't seem to have a very big market. The 429 was made from 64-66. (I think). Hope that helps some...
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04-22-2002, 03:18 PM
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365 V-8
1958 Cadillac Type: Overhead, 90 degrees, V-8 Displacement: 365 ci (6,0 l) Bore: 4.0 " Stroke: 3.625 " Brake horsepower: 310 at 4800 rpm (Eldorado: 355) Compression ratio: 10.25 to 1 Carburetor: Four-barrel (Eldorado: 3 two-barrels) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 390 V-8 1959-63 Cadillac Type: Overhead, 90 degrees, V-8 Displacement: 390 ci (6,4 l) Bore: 4.0 " Stroke: 3.875 " Brake horsepower: 325 at 4800 rpm (59-61 Eldorado: 345) Compression ratio: 10.5 to 1 Carburetor: Four-barrel (59-61 Eldorado: 3 two-barrels) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 429 V-8 1964-67 Cadillac Type: Overhead, 90 degrees, V-8 Displacement: 429 ci (7,0 l) Bore: 4.13 " Stroke: 4.0 " Brake horsepower: 340 at 4600 rpm Torque: 480 ft-lbs Compression ratio: 10.5 to 1 Carburetor: Four-barrel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 472 V-8 1968-74 Cadillac 1968-69 Eldorado Type: Overhead, 90 degrees, V-8 Displacement: 472 ci (7,7 l) Bore: 4.30 " Stroke: 4.06 " Carburetor: Four-barrel 1968-69 1970 1971-73 1974 Brake horsepower: 375 at 4400 375 at 4400 345 at 4400 SAE horsepower: 220 at 4000 205 at 4000 Torque (ft-lbs): 525 525 500 at 2800 SAE Torque: 380 at 2400 Compression ratio: 10.5 to 1 10 to 1 8.5 to 1 8.25 to 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 500 V-8 1975 Cadillac 1970-75 Eldorado Type: Overhead, 90 degrees, V-8 Displacement: 500 ci (8,2 l) Bore: 4.30 " Stroke: 4.304 " Carburetor: Four-barrel 1970 1971-73 1974 1975 Brake horsepower: 400 at 4400 365 at 4400 SAE horsepower: 235 at 3800 210 at 3800 190 at 4000 Torque (ft-lbs): 550 535 at 2800 SAE Torque: 410 at 2400 Compression ratio: 10 to 1 8.5 to 1 8.25 to 1 8.25 to 1 Enough said. |
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04-22-2002, 04:29 PM
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Thats through 76 on the 500 .....isnt it cadpowered?........69
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04-22-2002, 04:50 PM
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Fyi Cadpowerd,
I had a 71 Coupe with a 500 in it. It was factory. ------------------ Toms River NJ (Transplanted Hoosier) 56 working Street Rod(under construction 71-2 coil chassis) Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to fish and he will sit in a boat & drink beer all day. |
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04-22-2002, 05:04 PM
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Thats just prime!
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i heard that the '70 500cid had 400hp like posted above, but later like in 75 of 76 that went down to around 200hp due to emissions and some other group of people. anyone know how to retain that origional hp?
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04-22-2002, 05:14 PM
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Led Sled! Discs R 4 ME!
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They also changed their HP rating system, IE:
HP @ crank shaft vs. HP @ rear wheels with all acc. on. There was a difference in power but it was not as drastic as it seemed. |
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04-22-2002, 05:29 PM
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its all about the +6 inches
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Actually denny, they didn't go to at the wheel readings, but rather as the motor would sit in the car...all belts, all hoses...full pipes (including cats).
Not only did all that hurt the 500's out put#'s, but the fact that the compression ratio was severly dropped. Tehy used crappy heads, and a differant piston. 10:1 is a whole lot more than 8:1. ------------------ '69 G.M.C. 350/350. Trying to clean up the left over damage from the Dope-Smokin-Old-Man I've been dubbed the Longhorn Freak/Fanatic/Expert, I just hope I can live up to it. FINALLY got the HORNIAC...a '70 one ton Longhorn with a Pontiac 350/350 and lots of 'personality'. Check out The Longhorn Webite. If you need a pic posted, E-mail me at longhornmail@yahoo.com Andy, in Columbus Ohio |
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04-22-2002, 05:53 PM
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Led Sled! Discs R 4 ME!
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Yes longhornmail, not only lower compression but also with smaller cam and air pumps for emissions.
Are your sure the ratings are not at the rear wheels? Thats what I thought but I have no factual data to back it up. Denny |
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04-22-2002, 06:33 PM
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its all about the +6 inches
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gross is bare engine, net is 'as equipped'.
------------------ '69 G.M.C. 350/350. Trying to clean up the left over damage from the Dope-Smokin-Old-Man I've been dubbed the Longhorn Freak/Fanatic/Expert, I just hope I can live up to it. FINALLY got the HORNIAC...a '70 one ton Longhorn with a Pontiac 350/350 and lots of 'personality'. Check out The Longhorn Webite. If you need a pic posted, E-mail me at longhornmail@yahoo.com Andy, in Columbus Ohio |
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04-22-2002, 07:07 PM
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Yes, gross & net are both figured at the crank,but gross is figured without accessories.......69
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04-23-2002, 12:58 AM
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trivia question:who bought the last production cadillac convertible
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04-23-2002, 01:01 AM
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And thats the way it is april 23 2002.
Answer:Walter cronkite
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