Drop spindles rubbin the wheel weights - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

jsbgump · 10-23-2006, 06:39 PM

Has anyone else ever had this problem? I have been hearing a sqeel off and on and decide to check it out. I found that my wheel weights were ground down from the drop spindles. They are ECE spindles and I'm still runin the 15 in ralleys. I guess the noise will quit when they either grind down enough or I have the wheels rebalanced. Just wondered if anyone else has experienced this.

WHYBYNU · 10-23-2006, 07:07 PM

Pull the weights off ! Mine were rubbing after I put my drop spindels on and before I new they were rubbing I ended up cutting a tire. I think the weight got pinched between the bottom of the control arm and the wheel and sliced the side wall like a knife.. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED !!!! I HOPE THIS HELPS.

JOHN

72c10 · 10-23-2006, 07:11 PM

I got mine from gmc paul and I had to use 1/4 inch or 1/2 spacers (cant remember) just so they would spin and once balanced the weights didnt last the ride home. 15inch rallys.

underdog8704 · 10-23-2006, 07:13 PM

next time you have the wheels rebalanced, ask them to put tape weights on. they function the same without being in the way.

**Smitty** · 10-23-2006, 08:35 PM

With truck weight on the wheel, take a look. Chances are that its the end of your A-frame around your ball joint that is too close to the wheel. You need to relieve some of this material. Da a little at a time until it moves up and down without rubbing the wheel. Worked with my 8X15 rally wheels. The a-frame sits in a different attitude with the dropped spindle than it does with the stock one. Good luck!

**uncle** · 10-23-2006, 09:30 PM

I've had that problem before, but never with ECE spindles.

shifty · 10-23-2006, 10:05 PM

I've heard of this happening with McGaughy's (sp?) spindles, never ECE. I am interested - has anyone ever had this happen with 16" wheels?

see ten · 10-23-2006, 10:15 PM

Yep, ECE spindles will rub with a 15x8 wheel. I have had guys tell me that a 15x7 rally will work with no clearance issues. More than likely you are rubbing the lower control arms. You could always grind off the offending material and then box the bottom of the control arms like the old school hydraulic hopping guys do.

Stano · 10-23-2006, 10:23 PM

Yup. Been there done that. I am runnin 15x7 wheel vintique vette rallies and western spindles. First time it hit I was runnin about 90 on a curve and the wheel flexed and it sounded like a sledge hammer hit my truck and it was gone. I switched to stick on weights behind the center of the rim and haven't had a problem since. I don't believe 16 inch wheels would pose a problem unless they are really reversed. Its a scary feeling for sure.

**John Fabris** · 10-24-2006, 10:29 AM

I am running ece spindles with my 15x8 (five lug) ralleys, and no problems with the wheel weights....

**Steven B** · 10-24-2006, 10:58 AM

I had the same prolem with Mcgaughy spindles but switched to ECE and have no more problems. I'm running 15x8 Vette ralleyes up front

Bob Moore · 10-24-2006, 11:51 AM

My question to JSB is what width wheels is he running? I am currently mocked up with 15x8 rallys on ECE drop spindles but will probably run 15x6.5 ralleys.

jsbgump · 10-24-2006, 04:11 PM

They are 15x8

powell72 · 10-24-2006, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shifty

I've heard of this happening with McGaughy's (sp?) spindles, never ECE. I am interested - has anyone ever had this happen with 16" wheels?

Shifty, it's so close to clearing on a 15'' wheel I can't imagine a 16'' would have any problem unless they had some serious backspacing.

SCOTI · 10-24-2006, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powell72

Shifty, it's so close to clearing on a 15'' wheel I can't imagine a 16'' would have any problem unless they had some serious backspacing.

That's typically why they rub: too much back-space for drop spindles

FWIW, I have Bell Tech 3" spindles on my 74. The lower a-arm lip never rubbed @ all w/15x6.5" van ralleys but they do rub on my 18x8" TT2's. The van ralleys were less than 4"BS & the TT2's are 5.25"BS.

I have to use stick on weights or find a really good tire guy that knows how to work the tire on the rim for a zero balance.

shifty · 10-25-2006, 12:13 AM

I would be really interested to know the rim size (DDxWW) and the backspace/offset of everyone above

powell72 · 10-25-2006, 08:25 AM

I've had them scrape the weights on regular truck rally's with 4'' BC.

xmitsu10 · 11-20-2006, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven B

I had the same prolem with Mcgaughy spindles but switched to ECE and have no more problems. I'm running 15x8 Vette ralleyes up front

Hey Steven B: I want to run the same setup you have (2.5 ECE spindles and 15x8 Corvette rallys). You say you have no issues with clearance issues between the wheel and control arm. Can I ask if you know what the backspacing is on your front wheels? I see that Wheel Vintiques offers a 4" or a 4.5" backspace. I can go with a 15x7 but really don't want to (currently running 15x10 front and rear with stock suspenstion).

Response appreciated.

Mark

10-23-2006, 06:39 PM	#1
jsbgump Gone Fishing Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Fort Worth, Texas 76135 Posts: 12,361	Drop spindles rubbin the wheel weights Has anyone else ever had this problem? I have been hearing a sqeel off and on and decide to check it out. I found that my wheel weights were ground down from the drop spindles. They are ECE spindles and I'm still runin the 15 in ralleys. I guess the noise will quit when they either grind down enough or I have the wheels rebalanced. Just wondered if anyone else has experienced this. __________________ 68 Chevy Short Fleetside LSX Swap Under Way 3.73 posi 2.5/4 drop Frame of resto has been started 2022 Hyundai Tucson Limited 2019 Chevy Traverse Redline Edition Wifes Ride Build Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post3483616

10-23-2006, 07:07 PM	#2
WHYBYNU WHYBYNU when old will do Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Hot Springs, AR. Posts: 643	Re: Drop spindles rubbin the wheel weights Pull the weights off ! Mine were rubbing after I put my drop spindels on and before I new they were rubbing I ended up cutting a tire. I think the weight got pinched between the bottom of the control arm and the wheel and sliced the side wall like a knife.. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED !!!! I HOPE THIS HELPS. JOHN __________________ 71 Cheyenne super 2 tone green and white ZZ6 - Th350 4/6 drop 20x8.5 / 20x10 Billet Specialties

10-23-2006, 07:11 PM	#3
72c10 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: burlington KY Posts: 175	Re: Drop spindles rubbin the wheel weights I got mine from gmc paul and I had to use 1/4 inch or 1/2 spacers (cant remember) just so they would spin and once balanced the weights didnt last the ride home. 15inch rallys.

10-23-2006, 07:13 PM	#4
underdog8704 NCStroker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: NC Posts: 89	Re: Drop spindles rubbin the wheel weights next time you have the wheels rebalanced, ask them to put tape weights on. they function the same without being in the way.

10-23-2006, 08:35 PM	#5
Smitty Senior Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Spring Valley, Ca. Posts: 1,109	Re: Drop spindles rubbin the wheel weights With truck weight on the wheel, take a look. Chances are that its the end of your A-frame around your ball joint that is too close to the wheel. You need to relieve some of this material. Da a little at a time until it moves up and down without rubbing the wheel. Worked with my 8X15 rally wheels. The a-frame sits in a different attitude with the dropped spindle than it does with the stock one. Good luck! __________________ Smitty '71 Short Fleetside Spring Valley, Ca.

10-23-2006, 09:30 PM	#6
uncle Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Conyers,Ga. Posts: 7,286	Re: Drop spindles rubbin the wheel weights I've had that problem before, but never with ECE spindles.

10-23-2006, 10:05 PM	#7
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,376	Re: Drop spindles rubbin the wheel weights I've heard of this happening with McGaughy's (sp?) spindles, never ECE. I am interested - has anyone ever had this happen with 16" wheels? __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM.

10-23-2006, 10:15 PM	#8
see ten WTB this ad Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lafayette Georgia Posts: 5,074	Re: Drop spindles rubbin the wheel weights Yep, ECE spindles will rub with a 15x8 wheel. I have had guys tell me that a 15x7 rally will work with no clearance issues. More than likely you are rubbing the lower control arms. You could always grind off the offending material and then box the bottom of the control arms like the old school hydraulic hopping guys do.

10-23-2006, 10:23 PM	#9
Stano Registered User Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Mo Posts: 963	Re: Drop spindles rubbin the wheel weights Yup. Been there done that. I am runnin 15x7 wheel vintique vette rallies and western spindles. First time it hit I was runnin about 90 on a curve and the wheel flexed and it sounded like a sledge hammer hit my truck and it was gone. I switched to stick on weights behind the center of the rim and haven't had a problem since. I don't believe 16 inch wheels would pose a problem unless they are really reversed. Its a scary feeling for sure. __________________ New daily driver 96 Chevy K3500 crew cab dually 53,000 miles 350 Vortec 4L80 Nice ride 67 Chevy C-10 LWB Built 350 TH-400 Wifes ride and family rig: 2001 Furd Expedition 5.4 Liter Kickin back in Rolla,Mo. USA "Do the thing you fear most and the death of fear is certain" Mark Twain

10-24-2006, 10:29 AM	#10
John Fabris TOTY 2006 Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Magalia CA USA Posts: 2,270	Re: Drop spindles rubbin the wheel weights I am running ece spindles with my 15x8 (five lug) ralleys, and no problems with the wheel weights.... __________________ John Fabris 67 C10 SWB

10-24-2006, 10:58 AM	#11
Steven B Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: LHC, AZ Posts: 385	Re: Drop spindles rubbin the wheel weights I had the same prolem with Mcgaughy spindles but switched to ECE and have no more problems. I'm running 15x8 Vette ralleyes up front __________________ 70 Jimmy 4x4 71 GMC 2500 Too bad stupidity isn't painful

10-24-2006, 11:51 AM	#12
Bob Moore Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tacoma WA Posts: 1,365	Re: Drop spindles rubbin the wheel weights My question to JSB is what width wheels is he running? I am currently mocked up with 15x8 rallys on ECE drop spindles but will probably run 15x6.5 ralleys. __________________ 67 C-20 LWB, tilt, speed alert, vac, 454, T400 67 C-10 SWB, factory air with more to follow

10-24-2006, 04:11 PM	#13
jsbgump Gone Fishing Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Fort Worth, Texas 76135 Posts: 12,361	Re: Drop spindles rubbin the wheel weights They are 15x8 __________________ 68 Chevy Short Fleetside LSX Swap Under Way 3.73 posi 2.5/4 drop Frame of resto has been started 2022 Hyundai Tucson Limited 2019 Chevy Traverse Redline Edition Wifes Ride Build Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post3483616

10-25-2006, 12:13 AM	#16
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,376	Re: Drop spindles rubbin the wheel weights I would be really interested to know the rim size (DDxWW) and the backspace/offset of everyone above __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM.

10-25-2006, 08:25 AM	#17
powell72 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Loveland Co. Posts: 3,098	Re: Drop spindles rubbin the wheel weights I've had them scrape the weights on regular truck rally's with 4'' BC. __________________ Chris 74 Custom Deluxe SWB 350/350/3.73’s 99 2wd Silverado RCSB 5.3/4L60/3.90’s http://www.classictrucks.com/feature...short_bed.html



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