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onetonk5 · 11-13-2006, 08:34 PM

Getting back in your truck to leave and finding the nose cone on your starter busted.......the starter on my truck has always sounded like ass.....i guess it maybe sounded a little too much like ass today when i went to crank it to leave the dentist office. This was the second starter i had on the truck at that point and they both sounded like crap......even after trying to shim. The starter my dad brought me in the parking lot sounds sweet without shims....so whats the deal...did i get bad parts the first 2 times(first was on the truck when i bought it) did i get lucky the 3rd try in the dark flashlight in my mouth asphalt style?
damn asphalt

ghetto_superman · 11-13-2006, 08:35 PM

reminds me of me...

LUV2XCLR8 · 11-13-2006, 08:36 PM

Been down that road one too many times before myself

krue · 11-13-2006, 08:48 PM

Don't get me started on starters.

72freak · 11-13-2006, 09:44 PM

I have NEVER had luck with any cheap ones...advance, auto zone ect. I now go for the good stuff.

Big Block · 11-13-2006, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 72freak

I have NEVER had luck with any cheap ones...advance, auto zone ect. I now go for the good stuff.

I agree, don't cheap out when it comes to starters. You may have to pay more but you won't have to put a new starter on every six months.

**N2TRUX** · 11-13-2006, 11:57 PM

No. what's worse is going to get back in your truck and it isn't there any more....

Critter · 11-14-2006, 12:30 AM

I went through this TOO DAMN MANY TIMES with my old '68. The best thing to do is NEVER separate your original "nose cone" and your block. For most of us it is too late, we have already gone down this road. Anyway, in 'ol Blue, I had quite a bit of compression and was continually breaking everything involved, starters, flex plates, bendix gears, you name it. I finally got a nosepiece off of a big block starter, which is made of cast instead of aluminum, I changed the flex plate and bendix gear all at the same time. I also got the steal brace that attaches to the back of the starter for extra support. (Most people threw these away along time ago) Anyway, I shimmed this set up and everything worked fine for about two years, but eventually even the cast nose cracked!!! I think the blocks get warped down there or something. Long story short, if you have already exchanged out your original nose, find a cast piece, get the brace on the back of the starter, shim it to the best of your ability, and keep you fingers crossed.

Chevyman63 · 11-14-2006, 07:12 AM

I feel your pain!

I have to change my fly wheel because the PO didn't take the time to shim it and now the fly wheel is ground to almost nothing. What a dumba$$.

RustyParts · 11-14-2006, 09:36 AM

Finally broke down and bought a high torque gear drive starter from summit for mine. Been on the engine since 2000 and still going strong, also stopped that aggravating starter drag when hot problem too.

67ChevyRedneck · 11-14-2006, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 72freak

I have NEVER had luck with any cheap ones...advance, auto zone ect. I now go for the good stuff.

How much is a "good" starter from say, NAPA? (or do they not have "good" stuff anymore either?)

I'm having the same problems all of y'all are having. My truck is on it's 4th, yes 4th starter since 2003. I would LOVE to quit swapping the damn thing. Anyone have a price and PN of a good one? Motor is a stock late 70's 350.

pharcyde05 · 11-14-2006, 01:31 PM

on my 72 pick up i got one of those lifetime starters from CKS and i probley changed that thing 20 times in 6 months i got tired of that but i got good at changing starters
i startd asking around and hear that when GM casted the blocks the starter were casted to mach so once they get ghanged around and rebuilt it causes problems
i took my down to the local auto elect shop and had them match one to my block and build the starter for me and i never had a problem qagain so now the first thing i do when i have starter or alt problem on any new trucks i get it goes strait there

11-13-2006, 08:34 PM	#1
onetonk5 Cereal Killer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Montgomery, Alabama Posts: 639	whats worse than the dentist? Getting back in your truck to leave and finding the nose cone on your starter busted.......the starter on my truck has always sounded like ass.....i guess it maybe sounded a little too much like ass today when i went to crank it to leave the dentist office. This was the second starter i had on the truck at that point and they both sounded like crap......even after trying to shim. The starter my dad brought me in the parking lot sounds sweet without shims....so whats the deal...did i get bad parts the first 2 times(first was on the truck when i bought it) did i get lucky the 3rd try in the dark flashlight in my mouth asphalt style? damn asphalt

11-13-2006, 08:35 PM	#2
ghetto_superman Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 1,982	Re: whats worse than the dentist? reminds me of me... __________________ -1947 3100 -1968 C10 -1970 K20

11-13-2006, 08:36 PM	#3
LUV2XCLR8 The LuvShack Garage Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Maple Grove, TN (West Side) Posts: 30,468	Re: whats worse than the dentist? Been down that road one too many times before myself __________________ Owner/Op: "TN Classic Transport Carriers" The Toy: "Square Vette" 72 Hybrid Blazer Toy Barn: "LuvShack" 40 x 60 x 20 Shop Tow Piggy:"Maddy" 88 Silverado 3500 Hauler: "Feathers" 14 Aluma 8218T

11-13-2006, 08:48 PM	#4
krue Designated A-hole! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Mississippi Posts: 36,448	Re: whats worse than the dentist? Don't get me started on starters. __________________ "If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!" Being stupid ain't illegal. We're Still Debt Free Except for the House!!! www.daveramsey.com 70 GMC SWB Stepside project "Green Booger" soon to be 6.0l/4l80e 93 S-10 "Poppaw's Truck"

11-13-2006, 09:44 PM	#5
72freak Rottenwood Garage Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Marietta, Georgia Posts: 4,321	Re: whats worse than the dentist? I have NEVER had luck with any cheap ones...advance, auto zone ect. I now go for the good stuff.

11-13-2006, 11:57 PM	#7
N2TRUX Happy to be here Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 39,021	Re: whats worse than the dentist? No. what's worse is going to get back in your truck and it isn't there any more.... __________________ Follow me on Facebook and Instagram @N2trux.com Articles- "Jake" the 84 to 74 crewcab "Elwood" the77_Remix 85 GMC Sierra "Scarlett" "Refining Sierra"

11-14-2006, 12:30 AM	#8
Critter Future TOTM Winner Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bulverde, TX Posts: 2,692	Re: whats worse than the dentist? I went through this TOO DAMN MANY TIMES with my old '68. The best thing to do is NEVER separate your original "nose cone" and your block. For most of us it is too late, we have already gone down this road. Anyway, in 'ol Blue, I had quite a bit of compression and was continually breaking everything involved, starters, flex plates, bendix gears, you name it. I finally got a nosepiece off of a big block starter, which is made of cast instead of aluminum, I changed the flex plate and bendix gear all at the same time. I also got the steal brace that attaches to the back of the starter for extra support. (Most people threw these away along time ago) Anyway, I shimmed this set up and everything worked fine for about two years, but eventually even the cast nose cracked!!! I think the blocks get warped down there or something. Long story short, if you have already exchanged out your original nose, find a cast piece, get the brace on the back of the starter, shim it to the best of your ability, and keep you fingers crossed. __________________ 72 Chevy CST K5 HIGHLANDER BLAZER Getting a 6.0,NV4500,NP205,14BFF (Currently laying all over the place in little pieces) 72 Chevy swb step-side "LS" 6.0 Here's a build thread of sorts 2002 HD2500 Crew Cab, 8.1L Allison 4x4 Daily Driver Check it out www.lsdyno.com

11-14-2006, 07:12 AM	#9
Chevyman63 Can't wait to retire!! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Corunna, MI Posts: 1,575	Re: whats worse than the dentist? I feel your pain! I have to change my fly wheel because the PO didn't take the time to shim it and now the fly wheel is ground to almost nothing. What a dumba$$. __________________ 2009 4x4 Chevy Crew Cab 6.0 1989 4x4 Siverado (270,000 miles) 1972 4x4 Blazer 2007 Chevy Cutaway 1 ton 1970 Corvette (sons project) RIP - CLR 10/11/09

11-14-2006, 09:36 AM	#10
RustyParts Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Wyman, Kentucky Posts: 403	Re: whats worse than the dentist? Finally broke down and bought a high torque gear drive starter from summit for mine. Been on the engine since 2000 and still going strong, also stopped that aggravating starter drag when hot problem too.

11-14-2006, 01:31 PM	#12
pharcyde05 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: modesto CA Posts: 239	Re: whats worse than the dentist? on my 72 pick up i got one of those lifetime starters from CKS and i probley changed that thing 20 times in 6 months i got tired of that but i got good at changing starters i startd asking around and hear that when GM casted the blocks the starter were casted to mach so once they get ghanged around and rebuilt it causes problems i took my down to the local auto elect shop and had them match one to my block and build the starter for me and i never had a problem qagain so now the first thing i do when i have starter or alt problem on any new trucks i get it goes strait there __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2461088



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