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Toms Truckin · 11-19-2006, 12:34 AM

I was wondering if anyone could recommend, or comment on using a gearvendor type trany. My 72 LWB has the engine(402 BB) out for a complete rebuild, and the trany(400r3) is headed off for either a rebuild or to be replaced with something with an overdrive.

I know they can be a little pricey, but my concern is a transmition guy I was refered to says he's got two 55 gallon drums filled with them, and wouldn't recommend them. I want to get as much input as possible before I proceed. They definitely look like they'd save money on gas, and not rob much low end power.

All oppinions welcome, Thanks.

Tom

Longhorn Man · 11-19-2006, 12:50 AM

there is no way he has drums full of gear vendor over/under drives.. those things are practicly indestructable.

Musclerodz · 11-19-2006, 01:07 AM

I call BS and agree with Longhorn Man. True Gear Vendor units have no HP restrictions to them and have never heard of one failing. Pricey, yes. You might consider a 4L80 for about the same price.

Mike

CG · 11-19-2006, 01:19 AM

Hmm I wonder why so many drag racers and land speed race cars use them??? I have one thats going to go behind a turbo400, Im still a little undecided on engine though.

ghetto_superman · 11-19-2006, 03:30 AM

i wish i had one...

krue · 11-19-2006, 04:08 AM

Built for rv/motorhome use, somebody is blowing smoke up your @$$.

junkyardjohn · 11-19-2006, 05:43 AM

GET AS FAR AWAY AS FAST AS YOU CAN FROM THIS TRANNY GUY. HIS APPEARANT LACK OF KNOWLEDGE IN THIS AREA IS SCAREY. DID MY EXWIFE RECOMEND HIM?? JOHN

gator2511 · 11-19-2006, 09:58 AM

Your tranny guy is full of BS. I have a GV behind my TH400 in my 72 K10 and I tow a 6100 lb travel trailer with it and have absolutely no problems. In fact I'm leaving around 3 this afternoon for 10 days in the woods. I tow the trailer using the GV and kick it off once the trailer is parked. Tell your tranny guy I will be happy to haul off all those GV units for him at no cost!

The GV unit is pricey but they work great!

long69 · 11-19-2006, 12:16 PM

offer to buy the used units as scrap and sell them, put me down for one!
the do have a round a 800 hp max though.

72freak · 11-19-2006, 12:37 PM

Tell him to step away from the crack pipe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PanelDeland · 11-19-2006, 12:40 PM

GV will replace one if it fails at the recomended HP TQ levels.They want to check it out so they can improve.As far as I can tell they haven't been able to improve because they haven't broken.Anyway that is my understanding.
Your tranny guy must be thinking of an OD. tranny.Maybe an early 3 speed style.

**kwmech** · 11-19-2006, 02:11 PM

Where did you say these drums were?

Toms Truckin · 11-20-2006, 03:13 AM

I appriciate all the feedback. I'm going into this mostly blind. This is my first time completely rebuilding any vehicle, and I want as much input as I can get. What little info I am getting, is coming second handed from my guy who is going to do the engine rebuild, and suspension. He basically only sends out tranys, and paint. He is just telling me what one of his trany guys has said. And like I mentioned, I have no clue, but assuming from the price, and the comments here, this guys in the majority.

I will call him once I get a day off and ask him directly, and make sure we are on the same page.

In the long run it might just be better to go for a newer trany thats rebuilt. If I pay $1,000 to have my 400r3 rebuilt, plus at least $2,500 for a GV, plus installation, I am really behind aren't I?

God I wish I was closer to home and tools. I can't fix a thing here.

Thanks again for any added input. All I want is the best possible freeway mileage, without turning this tank into a dud at the low end.

manimal · 11-20-2006, 09:35 AM

Start searching the wrecking yards under ALL of the trucks.I found one in Fontana for $65.00!!! And tell your trans contact if he doesnt know what he is talking about,then maybe he shouldnt do the rebuild on your engine either.!!

Solver · 11-20-2006, 10:38 AM

Anyone have a pic of what a gv looks like installed.
I get to a few yunkyards but wouldn't have a clue what I was looking for and would probably come home with something totally different

71chevylowrider · 11-20-2006, 12:39 PM

just to comment on this, Stacy from the tv show trucks put a gearvendors overdrive unit on the badass truck copperhead & it had a 600HP 572ci beog block, this truck was built with best of everything, they wouldn't have put a GV in it unless they were bullet proof.

manimal · 11-21-2006, 12:36 AM

There are pics on another thread called "overdrive"that I posted about a week ago.The tailshaft housing is for a Ford C6 but the GM housings are aavailable from GEAR VENDORS along with the couplings.

11-19-2006, 12:34 AM	#1
Toms Truckin Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Salinas Posts: 21	Gearvendor Question I was wondering if anyone could recommend, or comment on using a gearvendor type trany. My 72 LWB has the engine(402 BB) out for a complete rebuild, and the trany(400r3) is headed off for either a rebuild or to be replaced with something with an overdrive. I know they can be a little pricey, but my concern is a transmition guy I was refered to says he's got two 55 gallon drums filled with them, and wouldn't recommend them. I want to get as much input as possible before I proceed. They definitely look like they'd save money on gas, and not rob much low end power. All oppinions welcome, Thanks. Tom __________________ 72 GMC Sierra Grande Last edited by Toms Truckin; 11-19-2006 at 12:34 AM.

11-19-2006, 12:50 AM	#2
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Gearvendor Question there is no way he has drums full of gear vendor over/under drives.. those things are practicly indestructable.

11-19-2006, 01:07 AM	#3
Musclerodz Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: OKC, OK Posts: 2,365	Re: Gearvendor Question I call BS and agree with Longhorn Man. True Gear Vendor units have no HP restrictions to them and have never heard of one failing. Pricey, yes. You might consider a 4L80 for about the same price. Mike __________________ Mike Redpath

11-19-2006, 01:19 AM	#4
CG BlahBlahBlah Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wa. Posts: 19,862	Re: Gearvendor Question Hmm I wonder why so many drag racers and land speed race cars use them??? I have one thats going to go behind a turbo400, Im still a little undecided on engine though.

11-19-2006, 03:30 AM	#5
ghetto_superman Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 1,982	Re: Gearvendor Question i wish i had one... __________________ -1947 3100 -1968 C10 -1970 K20

11-19-2006, 04:08 AM	#6
krue Designated A-hole! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Mississippi Posts: 36,450	Re: Gearvendor Question Built for rv/motorhome use, somebody is blowing smoke up your @$$. __________________ "If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!" Being stupid ain't illegal. We're Still Debt Free Except for the House!!! www.daveramsey.com 70 GMC SWB Stepside project "Green Booger" soon to be 6.0l/4l80e 93 S-10 "Poppaw's Truck"

11-19-2006, 05:43 AM	#7
junkyardjohn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SOMERSET KY. Posts: 6,427	Re: Gearvendor Question GET AS FAR AWAY AS FAST AS YOU CAN FROM THIS TRANNY GUY. HIS APPEARANT LACK OF KNOWLEDGE IN THIS AREA IS SCAREY. DID MY EXWIFE RECOMEND HIM?? JOHN __________________ junkyardjohn 69 1 TON TOW TRUCK // 84 4WD CUCV BLAZER// 85 1 TON 4WD STAKE TRUCK// 86 M1031 5/4 TON 4WD CUCV// ALOT OF OLD TRUCKS FOR ONE OLD MAN TO DRIVE. THERES ROOM FOR ALL OF GODS CREATURES RIGHT NEXT TO MY MASHED POTATOES// LIFE MEMBER OF P.E.T.A (PEOPLE EATING TASTY ANIMALS) DON'T RENT U-HAUL ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH IT WILL AMAZE PART OF THE PEOPLE & ASTONISH THE REST

11-19-2006, 09:58 AM	#8
gator2511 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: tampa florida Posts: 776	Re: Gearvendor Question Your tranny guy is full of BS. I have a GV behind my TH400 in my 72 K10 and I tow a 6100 lb travel trailer with it and have absolutely no problems. In fact I'm leaving around 3 this afternoon for 10 days in the woods. I tow the trailer using the GV and kick it off once the trailer is parked. Tell your tranny guy I will be happy to haul off all those GV units for him at no cost! The GV unit is pricey but they work great!

11-19-2006, 12:16 PM	#9
long69 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: lost angeles Posts: 159	Re: Gearvendor Question offer to buy the used units as scrap and sell them, put me down for one! the do have a round a 800 hp max though.

11-19-2006, 12:37 PM	#10
72freak Rottenwood Garage Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Marietta, Georgia Posts: 4,321	Re: Gearvendor Question Tell him to step away from the crack pipe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

11-19-2006, 12:40 PM	#11
PanelDeland I am a Referee of life. Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Greensboro N.C. Posts: 13,993	Re: Gearvendor Question GV will replace one if it fails at the recomended HP TQ levels.They want to check it out so they can improve.As far as I can tell they haven't been able to improve because they haven't broken.Anyway that is my understanding. Your tranny guy must be thinking of an OD. tranny.Maybe an early 3 speed style. __________________ The 47-present Chevrolet and GMC Truck Message Board Network,it's owners,moderators,members,and associates of any type should not be held responsible for my opinion. You can't fix stupid,not even with duct tape. "My appearance is due to the fact that "GOD" does punish you for having too much fun!" Barrett-Jackson has perfected alchemy,they make rust into gold! "You can lead a horse to water but you can't saddle a duck" "Cleverly disguised as a 'Responsible Adult' "Sometimes your Knight in shining armor is just a retard in tinfoil"

11-19-2006, 02:11 PM	#12
kwmech Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Colfax-California Posts: 8,519	Re: Gearvendor Question Where did you say these drums were?

11-20-2006, 03:13 AM	#13
Toms Truckin Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Salinas Posts: 21	Re: Gearvendor Question I appriciate all the feedback. I'm going into this mostly blind. This is my first time completely rebuilding any vehicle, and I want as much input as I can get. What little info I am getting, is coming second handed from my guy who is going to do the engine rebuild, and suspension. He basically only sends out tranys, and paint. He is just telling me what one of his trany guys has said. And like I mentioned, I have no clue, but assuming from the price, and the comments here, this guys in the majority. I will call him once I get a day off and ask him directly, and make sure we are on the same page. In the long run it might just be better to go for a newer trany thats rebuilt. If I pay $1,000 to have my 400r3 rebuilt, plus at least $2,500 for a GV, plus installation, I am really behind aren't I? God I wish I was closer to home and tools. I can't fix a thing here. Thanks again for any added input. All I want is the best possible freeway mileage, without turning this tank into a dud at the low end. __________________ 72 GMC Sierra Grande

11-20-2006, 09:35 AM	#14
manimal Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Southern Kalifornia Posts: 3,066	Re: Gearvendor Question Start searching the wrecking yards under ALL of the trucks.I found one in Fontana for $65.00!!! And tell your trans contact if he doesnt know what he is talking about,then maybe he shouldnt do the rebuild on your engine either.!!

11-20-2006, 10:38 AM	#15
Solver Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Storm Lake, Ia Posts: 1,449	Re: Gearvendor Question Anyone have a pic of what a gv looks like installed. I get to a few yunkyards but wouldn't have a clue what I was looking for and would probably come home with something totally different __________________ 1972 Cheyenne Super 20 LWB-Blue 1972 Cheyenne Super 10 LWB-Black 1972 Cheyenne Super 10 LWB-Red 1972 Cheyenne Super 10 LWB-green 1972 GMC 4x4 LWB-White 1971 Cheyenne 10 LWB-Ochre 1971 Cheyenne 20 Longhorn-Copper 1971 Cheyenne 20 Longhorn-Black 1969 Custom 10 LWB-lt blue 1968 GMC 3/4 ton-green 1968 1/2 ton swb stepside-silver 1967 Chevrolet CST 10 LWB-green 1967 Chevrolet custom 20 LWB-Maroon



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11-20-2006, 12:39 PM	#16
71chevylowrider Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 1,015	Re: Gearvendor Question just to comment on this, Stacy from the tv show trucks put a gearvendors overdrive unit on the badass truck copperhead & it had a 600HP 572ci beog block, this truck was built with best of everything, they wouldn't have put a GV in it unless they were bullet proof.

11-21-2006, 12:36 AM	#17
manimal Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Southern Kalifornia Posts: 3,066	Re: Gearvendor Question There are pics on another thread called "overdrive"that I posted about a week ago.The tailshaft housing is for a Ford C6 but the GM housings are aavailable from GEAR VENDORS along with the couplings.

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