67 LWB with surface rust all over - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

Nachos82 · 02-25-2007, 06:14 PM

Hi all, found a 67 LWB local that I am looking at. Problem is that it is covered with lots of surface rust. My question is how hard is it to work with a truck that is so covered with rust. I never really messed with anything like this before. What are your opinions. Truck is on its 2nd owner and the current one bought it like it is with the 327 and 4-speed on the floor. Has a posi rear that is also listed on options sheet. Seems to be all original.

Ram-Man · 02-25-2007, 06:22 PM

From my experience that surface rust comes off pretty easy. The metal on these is alot thicker than the vehicles today. I have seen alot of them like that one.

*rage'nrat638* · 02-25-2007, 06:36 PM

looks like a sweet old truck

that will buff right out

nothing a little work won't cure

Longhorn Man · 02-25-2007, 07:20 PM

Some of it may be problematic, the lower door there looks pretty thick.

*Shane* · 02-25-2007, 07:32 PM

Scotch brite pad and some elbow grease and you got yourself a rat/beater/driver.

cableguy0 · 02-25-2007, 08:19 PM

some time and elbow grease will take care of that. compared to around here that truck isnt even rusty

**Bob B.** · 02-25-2007, 09:41 PM

Surface rust is not a problem as long as the metal isn't pitted real bad. Be sure to use a metal prep. (follow the instructions!) before you prime it. And, paint it soon after it is primed, or that rust will come right back.

RedZ71 · 02-25-2007, 09:51 PM

that one actually looks pretty good in all the typical "bad" spots.

underdog8704 · 02-25-2007, 09:55 PM

could be a really cool looking 'shop truck' in my opinion.

Nachos82 · 02-25-2007, 09:56 PM

Thanks for all the info guys. You say scotchbrite pads, can you also use just rough grit sandpaper? How about wirewheels? I know sandblasting will most likely warp panels, but other then the things I mentioned is there any real issue with it when it comes time to paint? The price is not bad and from what I saw all the options list info in the glovebox is still on the truck as it was from factory. For rust preps, are you talking about the chemical stuff you apply and it stops coats the rust? How easy it that stuff to paint over? I just dont want to spend time working on it and painting, then the rust all comes back through.

**Zoomad75** · 02-25-2007, 10:03 PM

Thats not rust thats "patina"! Rat Rodders would kill for that.

*rage'nrat638* · 02-25-2007, 10:10 PM

nope D.A. complete truck down prime with self etching sealer primer and paint as you would any thing else. thats how most the model t's and pre 50's cars and trucks look before redone. they sit out in fields for years. it's the hot sun that burns the paint off there in texas.
thats a very nice truck for sure.

Nachos82 · 02-26-2007, 10:31 AM

Thanks again guys. I will let you all know how things go with this one.

Chevy_Man · 02-26-2007, 10:47 AM

I would buy that truck in a heart beat surface rust is easy to deal with as long as its not all pitted up real bad. But as far as i can tell its not from the pics..BUy BUY BUY BUY!!!!!

Eric

**special-K** · 02-26-2007, 11:36 AM

Don`t use a heavy grit.You`ll make work with swirls and gouges.Be patient and have lots of elbow grease on hand.Definately treat with a rust inhibitor.I prefer the Permatex spray on.Some leave a white crusty layer that needs sanded.Kinda self-defeating.If you spray the Permatex like you`re painting,let it dry,you can prime straight over it.

*72CSTC5* · 02-26-2007, 12:23 PM

Sand the truck to bare metal, use a "black" roloc strip disc to get in to any deep pits, spray some ospho on the metal, watch it turn black and then start from there with primer to the top. Very easy fix.

cdowns · 02-26-2007, 12:49 PM

the one area on the truck i'd really check would be the rust by the drip rail and around the windshield area

mrein3 · 02-26-2007, 01:45 PM

I had a similar situation. See pictures below.

What I did is:
1. "Sandblaster" disk in my grinder. 3M makes it. It is purple and takes paint, bondo, rust, everything off. Don't be stupid. Use a decent respirator with this item. Who knows what is in that dust.
2. DuPont "Kwik Prep". Only in the attached pictures I used the similar PPG product. It is an acid that etches the metal. This is to get to the rust in the pits that the 3M disk didn't remove. Follow the directions on the package.
3. Epoxy primer.
4. Color.
I used the acid etch stuff under many projects and have yet to have any rust come back through. I can never remember the name of the PPG product but if you search on the Google for DuPont Kwik Prep you'll find what I'm talking about.
I'm sure the products others listed here work but I KNOW the PPG and DuPont products are made to go under their refinishing products.

gouldie · 02-26-2007, 03:38 PM

nice looking truck, i have a white 67 covered in surface rust as well. i dont have a whole lot of time or money to work on it so i just took care of the bad spots and am letting the surface rust stay, because it does look cool, until i get some extra time to worry about how it looks

02-25-2007, 06:14 PM	#1
Nachos82 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Central Florida Posts: 166	67 LWB with surface rust all over Hi all, found a 67 LWB local that I am looking at. Problem is that it is covered with lots of surface rust. My question is how hard is it to work with a truck that is so covered with rust. I never really messed with anything like this before. What are your opinions. Truck is on its 2nd owner and the current one bought it like it is with the 327 and 4-speed on the floor. Has a posi rear that is also listed on options sheet. Seems to be all original. Attached Images

02-25-2007, 06:22 PM	#2
Ram-Man Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 943	Re: 67 LWB with surface rust all over From my experience that surface rust comes off pretty easy. The metal on these is alot thicker than the vehicles today. I have seen alot of them like that one.

02-25-2007, 06:36 PM	#3
rage'nrat638 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: THE FALL GUY CHICAGO IL Posts: 5,883	Re: 67 LWB with surface rust all over looks like a sweet old truck that will buff right out nothing a little work won't cure

02-25-2007, 07:20 PM	#4
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: 67 LWB with surface rust all over Some of it may be problematic, the lower door there looks pretty thick.

02-25-2007, 07:32 PM	#5
Shane Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: over yonder Posts: 14,270	Re: 67 LWB with surface rust all over Scotch brite pad and some elbow grease and you got yourself a rat/beater/driver.

02-25-2007, 08:19 PM	#6
cableguy0 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Delta,Pa Posts: 14,948	Re: 67 LWB with surface rust all over some time and elbow grease will take care of that. compared to around here that truck isnt even rusty __________________ Owner of North Point Car Care in Dundalk Md. We specialize in custom exhaust on both modern and classic vehicles. We are a full service auto shop from classics to modern vehicles. Feel free to contact me with questions. I will give a 10% discount to any board member.

02-25-2007, 09:41 PM	#7
Bob B. Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,369	Re: 67 LWB with surface rust all over Surface rust is not a problem as long as the metal isn't pitted real bad. Be sure to use a metal prep. (follow the instructions!) before you prime it. And, paint it soon after it is primed, or that rust will come right back. __________________ 1967 GMC CM-2500 Camper Cruiser, 351E V-6, NP 435 4 speed, Dana 60, and factory A/C. 2012 GMC K-3500 WT regular cab, 6.0L Vortec, 6L90.

02-25-2007, 09:51 PM	#8
RedZ71 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 246	Re: 67 LWB with surface rust all over that one actually looks pretty good in all the typical "bad" spots. __________________ Jonathan 2001 ECSB Silverado Z71 1971 LB C10 Custom www.z71silverado.com

02-25-2007, 09:55 PM	#9
underdog8704 NCStroker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: NC Posts: 89	Re: 67 LWB with surface rust all over could be a really cool looking 'shop truck' in my opinion. __________________ 1971 Chevy C/10-Built 383 Stroker

02-25-2007, 09:56 PM	#10
Nachos82 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Central Florida Posts: 166	Re: 67 LWB with surface rust all over Thanks for all the info guys. You say scotchbrite pads, can you also use just rough grit sandpaper? How about wirewheels? I know sandblasting will most likely warp panels, but other then the things I mentioned is there any real issue with it when it comes time to paint? The price is not bad and from what I saw all the options list info in the glovebox is still on the truck as it was from factory. For rust preps, are you talking about the chemical stuff you apply and it stops coats the rust? How easy it that stuff to paint over? I just dont want to spend time working on it and painting, then the rust all comes back through.

02-25-2007, 10:03 PM	#11
Zoomad75 K5Camper Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Pueblo, CO Posts: 1,513	Re: 67 LWB with surface rust all over Thats not rust thats "patina"! Rat Rodders would kill for that. __________________ Rob Z. 1975 K5 350/465/205/D44/12b 4" lift on 35's- RIP 1991 K5 8.1L/NV4500/241/D44/14b FWC Camper

02-25-2007, 10:10 PM	#12
rage'nrat638 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: THE FALL GUY CHICAGO IL Posts: 5,883	Re: 67 LWB with surface rust all over nope D.A. complete truck down prime with self etching sealer primer and paint as you would any thing else. thats how most the model t's and pre 50's cars and trucks look before redone. they sit out in fields for years. it's the hot sun that burns the paint off there in texas. thats a very nice truck for sure. Last edited by rage'nrat638; 02-25-2007 at 10:11 PM.

02-26-2007, 10:31 AM	#13
Nachos82 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Central Florida Posts: 166	Re: 67 LWB with surface rust all over Thanks again guys. I will let you all know how things go with this one.

02-26-2007, 10:47 AM	#14
Chevy_Man Tightwad Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 408	Re: 67 LWB with surface rust all over I would buy that truck in a heart beat surface rust is easy to deal with as long as its not all pitted up real bad. But as far as i can tell its not from the pics..BUy BUY BUY BUY!!!!! Eric __________________ 56 Chevy custom cab step side under construction 55 Chevy 210 68 SWB Stepside back burner under construction 72 Chevy LWB 84 CJ 7 05 Chevy 1500 Crew Cab 30X40 DOGHOUSE(shop) with many add ons

02-26-2007, 11:36 AM	#15
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: 67 LWB with surface rust all over Don`t use a heavy grit.You`ll make work with swirls and gouges.Be patient and have lots of elbow grease on hand.Definately treat with a rust inhibitor.I prefer the Permatex spray on.Some leave a white crusty layer that needs sanded.Kinda self-defeating.If you spray the Permatex like you`re painting,let it dry,you can prime straight over it. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~



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02-26-2007, 12:23 PM	#16
72CSTC5 Account Suspended Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Deer Park, Tx. Posts: 2,522	Re: 67 LWB with surface rust all over Sand the truck to bare metal, use a "black" roloc strip disc to get in to any deep pits, spray some ospho on the metal, watch it turn black and then start from there with primer to the top. Very easy fix. Attached Images

02-26-2007, 12:49 PM	#17
cdowns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: daytonabeach Posts: 22,956	Re: 67 LWB with surface rust all over the one area on the truck i'd really check would be the rust by the drip rail and around the windshield area __________________ 71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY

02-26-2007, 01:45 PM	#18
mrein3 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Center City, MN, USA Posts: 3,254	Re: 67 LWB with surface rust all over I had a similar situation. See pictures below. What I did is: 1. "Sandblaster" disk in my grinder. 3M makes it. It is purple and takes paint, bondo, rust, everything off. Don't be stupid. Use a decent respirator with this item. Who knows what is in that dust. 2. DuPont "Kwik Prep". Only in the attached pictures I used the similar PPG product. It is an acid that etches the metal. This is to get to the rust in the pits that the 3M disk didn't remove. Follow the directions on the package. 3. Epoxy primer. 4. Color. I used the acid etch stuff under many projects and have yet to have any rust come back through. I can never remember the name of the PPG product but if you search on the Google for DuPont Kwik Prep you'll find what I'm talking about. I'm sure the products others listed here work but I KNOW the PPG and DuPont products are made to go under their refinishing products. Attached Images __________________ '70 cab, '71 chassis, 383, TH350, NP205. '71 Malibu convertible '72 Malibu hard top Center City, MN

02-26-2007, 03:38 PM	#19
gouldie Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: daytona beach Posts: 101	Re: 67 LWB with surface rust all over nice looking truck, i have a white 67 covered in surface rust as well. i dont have a whole lot of time or money to work on it so i just took care of the bad spots and am letting the surface rust stay, because it does look cool, until i get some extra time to worry about how it looks __________________ 67 c10 250 I6 3 on the tree no options air ride, paint and big block coming within the next 23 years 2001 mustang gt for going fast

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